For everyone who calls themself a Christian...

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Sorry if the truth hurts.

Good, then explain what happend to Aunt Lucy.

Go ahead.

While you're at it, you can answer my question following what you repsonded to.

If it's all mental illness and hysteria, how is it that people of faith, filled with the Holy Spirit just happen to command such a thing to stop happening, and a mental illness or hysteria that would not pay attention to imaginary powers.....

stops.

They could no more stop a siezure than they could a mental outburst or hysterics, yet the "symptoms" are gone.

Explain.

Originally posted by sithsaber408
Good, then explain what happend to Aunt Lucy.

Go ahead.

I don't know who Aunt Lucy is. Also, I'm not a doctor. 😄

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
I don't know who Aunt Lucy is. Also, I'm not a doctor. 😄

The one in the post before my last 2.

Don't waffle now, explain to me how she was either hysterical or has a mental illness.

Also answer the question in the post above.

Originally posted by sithsaber408
The one in the post before my last 2.

Don't waffle now, explain to me how she was either hysterical or has a mental illness.

Also answer the question in the post above.

I know what you are talking about, but I don't know the person.

I cannot make a determination based upon what you have written. The reason is simple; you believe in demons and therefore are delusional.

Originally posted by FeceMan
Oh, mercy! I am deeply wounded by such an attack on my intellect!

Not an insult on you. I am sure you don't believe 100%. You are smart.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
I know what you are talking about, but I don't know the person.

I cannot make a determination based upon what you have written. The reason is simple; you believe in demons and therefore are delusional.

Right, and I gave you the situation and the circumstances leading up to it.

What happend to her?

You have no answer, she has no mental illness, nor has any of her family ever had, and she wasn't hysterical.

Again, if the people possesed by demons were merely folks suffering from hysteria or mental illness, then how is it that when people of faith filled with the Holy Spirit tell the demon to leave in the name of Jesus, that all the "symptoms" just HAPPEN to stop.

I'm still waiting on your answer, as hysteria or a mental illness should act independantly of what some fool with an imagined supernatural power says or does.

Right?

Originally posted by sithsaber408
Right, and I gave you the situation and the circumstances leading up to it.

What happend to her?

You have no answer, she has no mental illness, nor has any of her family ever had, and she wasn't hysterical.

Again, if the people possesed by demons were merely folks suffering from hysteria or mental illness, then how is it that when people of faith filled with the Holy Spirit tell the demon to leave in the name of Jesus, that all the "symptoms" just HAPPEN to stop.

I'm still waiting on your answer, as hysteria or a mental illness should act independantly of what some fool with an imagined supernatural power says or does.

Right?

Can you provide evidense ?

I hear about Ghost stories all the time. I also hear claims about alien abductions, and about Big Foot.

Originally posted by sithsaber408
Right, and I gave you the situation and the circumstances leading up to it.

What happend to her?

You have no answer, she has no mental illness, nor has any of her family ever had, and she wasn't hysterical.

Again, if the people possesed by demons were merely folks suffering from hysteria or mental illness, then how is it that when people of faith filled with the Holy Spirit tell the demon to leave in the name of Jesus, that all the "symptoms" just HAPPEN to stop.

I'm still waiting on your answer, as hysteria or a mental illness should act independantly of what some fool with an imagined supernatural power says or does.

Right?

I don't know her and I was not there. A person who is delusional cannot give me the information I need to find an answer.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
I don't know her and I was not there. A person who is delusional cannot give me the information I need to find an answer.

I'm not delusional, and in any case I could give you whatever information you needed about her and her family.

You have no answer.

Actually you do, it just doesn't match with what you believe.

Originally posted by Lord Urizen
Can you provide evidense ?

I hear about [b]Ghost stories all the time. I also hear claims about alien abductions, and about Big Foot. [/B]

You got me.

It's all a part of of my mother-in-law, sister-in-law, their whole family, and mine's plan to lie to you over the internet.

😬

I said at the beginning I didn't see it, and even if I did, I had no camera or recorder.

The people who told it to me are college-educated professional women, with no history of mental illness, some of whom I know to be truthful and wise.

Not that it matters on the internet, but you are basically calling me, my wife's mother and sister, and my wife who was there liars.

I've no need to lie to you Urzien, you in your heart are seeking after God.
It's why you start so many threads abou Him and his nature of doing things, isn't it?

Maybe it's all a lie, but maybe it isn't.

Can you aford to just dismiss it?

Originally posted by sithsaber408
I'm not delusional, and in any case I could give you whatever information you needed about her and her family.

You have no answer.

Actually you do, it just doesn't match with what you believe. No Uzien, I can't.

You got me.

It's all a part of of my mother-in-law, sister-in-law, their whole family, and mine's plan to lie to you over the internet.

😬

I said at the beginning I didn't see it, and even if I did, I had no camera or recorder.

The people who told it to me are college-educated professional women, with no history of mental illness, some of whom I know to be truthful and wise.

Not that it matters on the internet, but you are basically calling me, my wife's mother and sister, and my wife who was their liars.

I've no need to lie to you Urzien, you in your heart are seeking after God.
It's why you start so many threads abou Him and his nature of doing things, isn't it?

Maybe it's all a lie, but maybe it isn't.

Can you aford to just dismiss it?

It is not possible for me to get an answer. I am not insulting you, if you feel that I am; I am sorry. You believe so strongly, that you will not see the information I need to give an answer.

Originally posted by sithsaber408
I'm not delusional, and in any case I could give you whatever information you needed about her and her family.

You have no answer.

Actually you do, it just doesn't match with what you believe. No Uzien, I can't.

You got me.

It's all a part of of my mother-in-law, sister-in-law, their whole family, and mine's plan to lie to you over the internet.

😬

I said at the beginning I didn't see it, and even if I did, I had no camera or recorder.

The people who told it to me are college-educated professional women, with no history of mental illness, some of whom I know to be truthful and wise.

Not that it matters on the internet, but you are basically calling me, my wife's mother and sister, and my wife who was there liars.

I've no need to lie to you Urzien, you in your heart are seeking after God.
It's why you start so many threads abou Him and his nature of doing things, isn't it?

Maybe it's all a lie, but maybe it isn't.

Can you aford to just dismiss it?

Dude, I like to argue religion. That's # 1. It's entertaining.

Secondly, I do beleive in God. Or in "creation force", but not in your God.

Christian-Judeo-Islam God is a hoax. That God is a sexist, hypocrit, tyrant....I refuse to worship that joke.

Originally posted by sithsaber408
Cap, he tells me that he loves me. He says yes or no to me when I ask for things, and usually I see why later on.

It's not an audible voice from a speaker or even a voice in my head, but a feeling. A feeling with thoughts and ideas behind it, like the feeling you get after helping a person out.

The feeling is good, but you know in your mind that what you did was the right thing, and that you should be proud.

You don't hear a voice inside yourself say "that was a good thing you did Bryan (using my name here), you should be proud of yourself" but you have a feeling that confirms those thoughts.

I can't think of any better way to explain it to you, and I'm sure that doesn't work for you.

Suffice to say that I was at one point in my life very liberal, and definitely a skeptic of anything until I've had it proved in my face.

(that much I'm sure you can gather from my time here at KMC) 😛

I'm reasonably intelligent, definately not insane, and I promise you:

I have a relationship with GOD.

I won't answer your jerk questions about his favorite movie or soda because it doesn't work like that, but I'll answer that last one:

The people of the world would hear from him if they asked him touch their lives.

(in a real and honest way, seeking to know him, rather than a "prove yourself, you old f*cker" type of way.)

I'm not going to argue your feelings.

However, I really think you need to get over this ida that liberals are equitable to evil sinners. It's really shallow.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
It is not possible for me to get an answer. I am not insulting you, if you feel that I am; I am sorry. You believe so strongly, that you will not see the information I need to give an answer.

Try me, and see.

I'm willing to be proved wrong, if you feel that you can.

And I will give you whatever info. you want about the situation that happend, the circumstances, or the individual or the family.

Honestly, try me. 🙂

Originally posted by Capt_Fantastic
I'm not going to argue your feelings.

However, I really think you need to get over this ida that liberals are equitable to evil sinners. It's really shallow.

I don't think that, as I said, I was once very liberal.

But thanks for hearing my side of it. 🙂

There comes a point where some people are beyond information.

Originally posted by sithsaber408
Try me, and see.

I'm willing to be proved wrong, if you feel that you can.

And I will give you whatever info. you want about the situation that happend, the circumstances, or the individual or the family.

Honestly, try me. 🙂

You don't get it! You can't see the truth because of your beliefs. We all suffer from that to one degree of another. I don't believe that I can know what the answer is here on this forum.

However, some of use use more than one case to found our beliefs on.

When he says that some people are beyond information, I do believe that he could very well be referring to himself as well as others.

Sometimes I feel it is not that they are blind but they have blinded themselves.

EDIT: I do enjoy this blatant hypocrisy shown by the members of KMC--"You cannot say that another's beliefs are wrong!

...Except you're a dumb Christian, so w/e."

Originally posted by FeceMan
When he says that some people are beyond information, I do believe that he could very well be referring to himself as well as others.

Sometimes I feel it is not that they are blind but they have blinded themselves.

I am open minded 😊

Originally posted by FeceMan
When he says that some people are beyond information, I do believe that he could very well be referring to himself as well as others.

Sometimes I feel it is not that they are blind but they have blinded themselves.

👆