Excuse me, I was hung over when I responded to you guys. Sorry for my lashing out, I usually don't care.
I have a lot of fun on KMC, I'd like to keep it that way.
Capt Fantastic, i have no problem with you. If you don't like me, it means as much to me as if you did....which is close to nothing.
Adam Poe..save your grudge against me for someone else. It's a waste of energy....
Re: An olive branch can be used as a switch just as easily.
Originally posted by Adam_PoE
Consider for a moment what you have shown yourself to be; promiscuous, single-mindedly preoccupied with sex, disrespectful to Christians and their beliefs, and otherwise, completely irrelevant.
Oh actually, I thought this quote was very relevant, so I decided to address it directly.
I honestly feel that I have more respect for the Christian religion, that most Christians have for your sexuality or my own. The love you feel for Capt Fantastic, and the love I have felt for some of the people I have been with throughout my life, is meaningless in the eyes of many Christians, especially those here on KMC.
Just keep that in mind.....
Re: Re: An olive branch can be used as a switch just as easily.
Originally posted by Lord Urizen
Oh actually, I thought this quote was very relevant, so I decided to address it directly.I honestly feel that I have more respect for the Christian religion, that most Christians have for your sexuality or my own. The love you feel for Capt Fantastic, and the love I have felt for some of the people I have been with throughout my life, is meaningless in the eyes of many Christians, especially those here on KMC.
Just keep that in mind.....
In the past 8 months, you have authored 6 threads noting your sexual attraction to Jesus, and describing the various sexual acts you would like to do with him; and in the past 3 months, you have authored 5 threads questioning whether God and various biblical figures are homosexual, virgins, experience orgasm, watch pornography, and so on. If this is consistent with your concept of respect, then I am curious as to your concept of disrespect.
Re: Re: Re: An olive branch can be used as a switch just as easily.
Originally posted by Adam_PoE
In the past 8 months, you have authored 6 threads noting your sexual attraction to Jesus, and describing the various sexual acts you would like to do with him; and in the past 3 months, you have authored 5 threads questioning whether God and various biblical figures are homosexual, virgins, experience orgasm, watch pornography, and so on. If this is consistent with your concept of respect, then I am curious as to your concept of disrespect.
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Re: Re: Re: An olive branch can be used as a switch just as easily.
Originally posted by Adam_PoE
In the past 8 months, you have authored 6 threads noting your sexual attraction to Jesus, and describing the various sexual acts you would like to do with him; and in the past 3 months, you have authored 5 threads questioning whether God and various biblical figures are homosexual, virgins, experience orgasm, watch pornography, and so on. If this is consistent with your concept of respect, then I am curious as to your concept of disrespect.
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That's just me playing around....I already told Feceman that I promised not to bash Christianity to that extent anymore, incase you missed the memo....
I still question the concept of Hell however, and I will never let that go.
But atleast I haven't attacked or targetted any specific Christian other than the public figures. I may attack Christianity, but I don't attack Christians or any specific person here on KMC.
You, however, have verbally attacked, insulted, and offended me on numerous occasions. I always laugh it off, but now i'd ask you....if you don't like me, then ignore me.
I have no further need to argue with you, because our argument is about nothing. I am not going to change for you. So get over it....
However, you also skipped my other point....most of the Christians on KMC will never have any respect for the sexual decisions that you or myself make, because it goes against what they beleive to be right.
Despite all the times I have made fun of Christianity, and having been a Christian for 18 years, I feel every right to, i STILL feel I have been more respectful towards Christianity than many Christians have been towards Homosexuality.
Think about it:
I never once said all Christians are evil people...I never said they deserved to go to Hell, i never I hated all Christians, I never said they should change thier religion either, just learn to open thier minds to the possibility that they might be wrong, or that maybe they don't truly know thier religion as well as they think they do.
I have also made statements condoning Christianity, and I have critisized Islam, other philosophies, and EVEN Gay Media....so you can't tell me that I'm targetting Christianity, because that is simply untrue.
Me making fun of Jesus, or me attacking the Bible is nothing compared to the comments many Christian debators here have said about Homosexuality....does Marcello ring a bell? Does Jesusisalive ring a bell? Does Adarksiedjedi ring a bell ? Does Diamondbullets ring a bell?
Guess what they have in common ?
They are devout Christians (Jackie Malfoy may not identify as Christian, but she certainly holds their principles as truth) who HATE homosexuality, and are DISGUSTED by homosexual people, that automatically includes you and myself.
So it's somehow okay that they can say such horrible things about us, but when i poke light hearted humor at thier religion, suddenly I'M the bad guy ?
I make stupid threads and I make stupid responses when I feel bombarded by prior stupidity.
I PROMISE you Adam Poe, I PROMISE...that whenever I find a post that I feel is sincere, intelligent, and respectful...I answer the same way. When I find a post or thread that I feel is stupid, I will respond with further stupidity.
And when I see a post or thread that is just plain hateful, I respond reallly nasty......
And it's nothing new Adam Poe.....ever since Whob...no EVEN BEFORE THAT (I had another username), I had to deal with the loads and loads of Christian Conservatives spewing hatred against people like you and myself, not even recognizing their own hate......
Why should I even bother rationalizing with people that don't have a rationality ?
I have taken KMC seriously for too long......well long ago I did, but in the past 6 months, I stopped taking it seriously.
I realized that many people on these forums are TRULY idiots....closed minded, immature, brainwashed non-individuals who just follow the words of others.
Now, I may ACT idiotic, but I am not truly that stupid. I act idiotic, intentionally, because I give up.....I have been disrespected no more now, then at the time when I was a serious and devoted debator.
That is just how KMC is.....there's a shitload of mean ass people on this website, and I stopped caring.
So i do not feel the slightest guilt for making fun of Christianity, or for making stupid threads for a laugh. Not one shred....
I simply decided to cut down on that recently, because it ends up going no where.....
Originally posted by FeceMan
What.I hardly consider talking about performing oral sex on Jesus as bashing. It didn't offend me, either. It was just really, really annoying.
Feceman, I wasn't talking about you. I know you are far more rational than most other christians on these forums, and i don't see you as that judgmental either....
Adam Poe has accused me of targetting and bashing Christianity, it was my attempt to prove him incorrect.
Re: Re: Re: Re: An olive branch can be used as a switch just as easily.
Originally posted by Lord Urizen
But atleast I haven't attacked or targetted any specific Christian other than the public figures. I may attack Christianity, but I don't attack Christians or any specific person here on KMC.
A condemnation of Christianity is a condemnation of Christians in the same sense that a condemnation of homosexuality is a condemnation of homosexuals.
Originally posted by Lord Urizen
You, however, have verbally attacked, insulted, and offended me on numerous occasions. I always laugh it off, but now i'd ask you....if you don't like me, then ignore me.
Perhaps I should take a page from your book, and make generalizations about the groups you belong to instead of addressing you directly. Surely, that is the more mature way to manage conflict.
Originally posted by Lord Urizen
However, you also skipped my other point....most of the Christians on KMC will never have any respect for the sexual decisions that you or myself make, because it goes against what they beleive to be right.
Is that supposed to excuse your bad behavior?
Originally posted by Lord Urizen
Despite all the times I have made fun of Christianity, and having been a Christian for 18 years, I feel every right to, i STILL feel I have been more respectful towards Christianity than many Christians have been towards Homosexuality.
That is the equivalent of arguing that you should not be responsible for doing harm to another, because he harmed you more.
Originally posted by Lord Urizen
Think about it:I never once said all Christians are evil people...I never said they deserved to go to Hell, i never I hated all Christians, I never said they should change thier religion either, just learn to open thier minds to the possibility that they might be wrong, or that maybe they don't truly know thier religion as well as they think they do.
To paraphrase Nellinator, “My goal is to open his mind to the possibility [that his sexuality is] conditioned.” Consider how responsive you were to that statement.
Originally posted by Lord Urizen
Me making fun of Jesus, or me attacking the Bible is nothing compared to the comments many Christian debators here have said about Homosexuality....does Marcello ring a bell? Does Jesusisalive ring a bell? Does Adarksiedjedi ring a bell ? Does Diamondbullets ring a bell?Guess what they have in common ?
They are devout Christians (Jackie Malfoy may not identify as Christian, but she certainly holds their principles as truth) who HATE homosexuality, and are DISGUSTED by homosexual people, that automatically includes you and myself.
So it's somehow okay that they can say such horrible things about us, but when i poke light hearted humor at thier religion, suddenly I'M the bad guy ?
This argument is the childish equivalent of “He started it.”
Originally posted by Lord Urizen
I make stupid threads and I make stupid responses when I feel bombarded by prior stupidity.
“The wise man speaks, because he has something to say. The fool speaks, because he has to say something.”
Originally posted by Lord Urizen
Why should I even bother rationalizing with people that don't have a rationality ?
Why post anything when you do not have something worthwhile to contribute?
Originally posted by Lord Urizen
I have taken KMC seriously for too long......well long ago I did, but in the past 6 months, I stopped taking it seriously.I realized that many people on these forums are TRULY idiots....closed minded, immature, brainwashed non-individuals who just follow the words of others.
The solution is to act just like them?
Originally posted by Lord Urizen
So i do not feel the slightest guilt for making fun of Christianity, or for making stupid threads for a laugh. Not one shred....
Perhaps you should read the Forum Rules & Guidelines.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: An olive branch can be used as a switch just as easily.
Originally posted by Adam_PoE
A condemnation of Christianity is a condemnation of Christians in the same sense that a condemnation of homosexuality is a condemnation of homosexuals.
And when have I actually condemned Christianity ?
I critisize it a lot...so what ?
I don't simply damn Christians to Hell, or closed mindedly argue how immoral Christians are. I hear them out, then respond directly.
Any time i make fun of Christianity it is just me joking, and you seem to be the only person taking it seriously.
Originally posted by Adam_PoE
Perhaps I should take a page from your book, and make generalizations about the groups you belong to instead of addressing you directly. Surely, that is the more mature way to manage conflict.
It's a step above labelling people who disagree with you as stupid, retarted, idiots who should die
I am also not for labelling btw...I don't see homosexuals as purely homosexuals, i dont see Christians as purely christians...
we are all human beings in essense.....im not into categorizing people...sorry.
I have problems with Christianity...so do you....we handle our boggles differently.
I sometimes seriously question it, while other times I make fun of it..so what? I don't go bashing specific members like SOMEBODY i know.....nor do I immediately put them down just because they have an opinion which differs from my own.
Originally posted by Adam_PoE
Is that supposed to excuse your bad behavior?
How is my "bad" behavior any worse than your own ?
Originally posted by Adam_PoE
That is the equivalent of arguing that you should not be responsible for doing harm to another, because he harmed you more.
What harm are you referring to ?
Originally posted by Adam_PoE
To paraphrase Nellinator, “My goal is to open his mind to the possibility [that his sexuality is] conditioned.” Consider how responsive you were to that statement.
I've thought about that for years.....I don't need Nell to convince me to go back to that train of thought, especially since he beleives that Eternal Torment is Love.....and that God's burning down of two cities, slaughtering of men women and children, slaughtering of the first born sons of egypt, and all his genocidal acts are "acts of love"
Originally posted by Adam_PoE
This argument is the childish equivalent of “He started it.”
Yeah...that's sort of true. It's almost as childish as your lovely posts:
Originally posted by Adam_PoE
"But You fail at life. Die"
and....
Originally posted by Adam_PoE
"idiot"
and....
Originally posted by Adam_PoE
"retart"
Originally posted by Adam_PoE
“The wise man speaks, because he has something to say. The fool speaks, because he has to say something.”
Then stop talking.....
Originally posted by Adam_PoE
Why post anything when you do not have something worthwhile to contribute?
I'd say take your own advice:
Originally posted by Adam_PoE
"But You fail at life. Die"
Originally posted by Adam_PoE
The solution is to act just like them?
It's not a solution....I just find it fun to mock thier stupidity that's all...what's your story ?
Originally posted by Adam_PoE
Perhaps you should read the Forum Rules & Guidelines.
Yeah, I read somewhere that BASHING another thread member is against the rules.....hmmm.......
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: An olive branch can be used as a switch just as easily.
Originally posted by Lord Urizen
And when have I actually condemned Christianity ?I critisize it a lot...so what ?
I don't simply damn Christians to Hell, or closed mindedly argue how immoral Christians are. I hear them out, then respond directly.
Any time i make fun of Christianity it is just me joking, and you seem to be the only person taking it seriously.
con·demn verb to express an unfavorable or adverse judgment on; indicate strong disapproval of; censure.
Originally posted by Lord Urizen
It's a step above labelling people who disagree with you as stupid, retarted, idiots who should dieI am also not for labelling btw...I don't see homosexuals as purely homosexuals, i dont see Christians as purely christians...
we are all human beings in essense.....im not into categorizing people...sorry.
I have problems with Christianity...so do you....we handle our boggles differently.
I sometimes seriously question it, while other times I make fun of it..so what? I don't go bashing specific members like SOMEBODY i know.....nor do I immediately put them down just because they have an opinion which differs from my own.
I have a problem with you. Therefore, I address you directly.
You have a problem with certain Christians, but instead of addressing them directly, you make generalizations about Christians and Christianity.
Originally posted by Lord Urizen
How is my "bad" behavior any worse than your own ?
Still abdicating responsibility, I see.
Originally posted by Lord Urizen
What harm are you referring to ?
Your argument is that it is acceptable for you to be disrespectful to others so long as they have been more disrespectful to you. That is a grade school mentality.
Originally posted by Lord Urizen
I've thought about that for years.....I don't need Nell to convince me to go back to that train of thought, especially since he beleives that Eternal Torment is Love.....and that God's burning down of two cities, slaughtering of men women and children, slaughtering of the first born sons of egypt, and all his genocidal acts are "acts of love"
The point is that a Christian is going to be no more receptive to you suggesting that his religion is not valid, than you are going to be to his suggesting that your sexual orientation is not valid.
Originally posted by Lord Urizen
It's not a solution....I just find it fun to mock thier stupidity that's all...what's your story ?
How is that following the Forum Guidelines & Rules with regards to courtesy?
Originally posted by Lord Urizen
Yeah, I read somewhere that BASHING another thread member is against the rules.....hmmm.......
Then you must be aware of the Forum Guidelines & Rules.
Awareness of the Forum Guidelines & Rules has not prevented you from being discourteous to other members, e.g. in a single post, you told Marchello to “shut the **** up,” asked him “why do insist on speaking,” and told him to “close your ****ing teeth.”
Awareness of the Forum Guidelines & Rules has not prevented you from posting 5 offensive threads in 3 months, and countless offensive posts in other threads.
Awareness of the Forum Guidelines & Rules has not prevented you from posting 6 duplicate threads in 8 months, some with the same name, simply in different forums.