Civil War Report

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Originally posted by Darth Vicious
I didnt like how they still had him chained like an animal when he was buried. They had 3 of the most advanced minds of the MU and they couldnt shrink him down to size for a proper burial.

the chains were for the team of machines that were carrying him into his grave...

and it was either Millar or a Newsarama interviewer that said something about not being able to shrink him back down using Pym particles without causing damage to the body

not really a giant characters fan so i really wouldn't know if he was right.

Originally posted by Black Adam
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Originally posted by manjaro
so let me get this straight...they plan to put the likes of bullseye and lady deathstrike on the streets and not have this blow up in thier faces...🤨i was wavering at first til i saw what thor was gonna shape up to be but im anti-reg all the way now 110%..even if the Pro stockpiles some of my favorites, im still sticking with Cap. I am sure Peter feels safe now that half the damn prisoners want him dead more than caps team.

.personally i think its messed up how they brought back black goliath from obscurityt after all these years only to kill him off like that.....can you say a guilt ridden reed clones him and brings him back anyone? Also, i sincerely doubt that reed and sue are getting divorced, cuz that's a genie that you could never put back in the bottle(spidey unmasking for example) that would change comicdom too severely...i think reed is just on the bandwagon cuz he isnt hindered by ethics anymore..meaning he was fully capable of all these scientific feats all along but never had the right reason or motivation. so now that he's telling himslef that he's bringing criminals to justice he's letting his mind run free..

as i was saying about changing comicdom. better enjoy it while it lasts cuz the consequences of CW will only last for a few months, maybe even a year. mainly beucase it will take a significant event like the Real Thor coming back pissed off that there were clones made of him, the hulk coming back to Earth with an alien army, or Namor launching a very serious "im not kidding around this time like when i was 18" invasion... i wager thats when everybody will galvanise and finally bury the hatchet....and we still have yet to see what role the grandmaster, and the squadron supreme have to play in this, plus is it me or did i see the Watcher grimacing with anguishin one panel? i dont know ppl i cant see any thing other than a planetary mindwipe setting things straight

What is reed smokin. Why the hell would you assemble these murderers together when they hate pro registration heroes as much as anti. The villians will agree to get the chance and the backups to kill caps team but afterwards its going to blow up. Since when does placing a homing chip work on a symbiote? Can't the symbiote just remove it?

Originally posted by Grimm22
All I can say is....

What a copout 😛

Seriously rather than explaining why Thor would join the Pro-Side, Millar just pulled some crap out of his ass 🙁

Still the rest of the issue was great. Goliath's death brought great points from both sides.

Its good to see that the Pro-Sides arent being villanized as much anymore and that the Anti-Side is having their fair share of it now 😬

That and I am VERY glad that Sue and Reed didnt get divorced. 🙂

All I can say now is that im 80% sure that Reed may switch sides, especially if Namor is trying to steal her from him.

I am not sure if this was a cop out or a good good reasoning. Thor should have no reason to be Pro registration. He went through this when he was King thor.

man you som'itches disscussed the hell outta this thing in a few short hours...but one thing that perks my intrigue tho.. reed had to specifically tell that the others wont be ready for a month..Does this mean that tjere will be an Army of Clors to man each state? or will there be analogs of other uber powerful ppl as well, and how creeepy is it that tony lint brushed his couch for thor's hair?.....waitaminute .....werent Herc, hulk, She hulk, Gilgamesh, Jack of Hearts, Quasar, Both Cap. Marvels(mar-vell and rambeau), Cap britian, Wonderman, Namor, The thing, Crystal, Sersi, and Thunderstrike all members of the Avengers too?!?😑not to mention Sentry...is my imagination running away with me or is it reasonable to assume that ol shell head got a hold of all thier DNA too? or maybe tony will just say screw and roll out an infantry of Warmachine Armors to keep the populace in check?

as for Clor, the science behind it as also perked my intrigue and here is what my OCD-like knowledge of Comic Book Science leads me to believe. even if they are boss at cloning I dont think they would be able to get Thor down to a tee, so much so that he has memory of them and can call their names out as he whoops their asses, the point being that i dont think they would be able to replicate his srentgh and durability, and memory just from one single follicle of hair so there is obviously some super soldiery tech involved..propbably those nutrient baths we see in the background is what is used to fortify his cellular structure..and some Weapon X'y type of conditioning for flase memory implants

the hammer is obviously not the real Mjolnir, or any trace of Uru. there is no way they could get thier hands on the material. so im thinking that its some sort of bio mechanical appartus that his able to Ionize the environment. NASA scientists are able to do the same trick to harnesses a bolt of lightning by sending a copper wire on a small rocket a few miles into the air when the clouds are dark(they even have some killer video of this), so im thinking that Clor does that a more super-massive scale. and keeping with thor's powerset his hammer probably artifically manipulates the environmet by f ****ing with said ionized particles.

for teleporting(if Clor can even do that) Reed is a whiz at that kind of stuff.. when it comes to 4-D engines, Warp Drives, and transpatial gates he has got that shit down... so no big guessing there. Also we have seen dude throw the hammer to smack the shit out of them and it came back to him, so that could probably be a localized TK field, that he also uses for flying...which implies a Personal Null gravity Generator..maybe its attuned to his body, his costume, or those gauntlets on his wrist, it could even be that belt he's wearing. Perhaps its thier version of his "belt of strength," and it allows him to pull a Gladiator, and seemingly increase his strentgh by wrapping a TK bubble around any object he touches so that A. its easier to Lift, and B. it doesnt collapse under its own weight.. as for the no one can pick it up but me thing, im sure all that would mean is that it connects with the earth's magnetic field, and due to some trigger or thing on his body(costume, guantlet, belt) to deactivate its pull, only he can move it.

well as i said im just guessing but even if im wrong i dont think im too far off😖mart: BTW whats gonna happen when Clor rebels aginast them? since he's obviously a living breathing person are they gonna be OK with killing him, or since the writers have made events unfold so predictably, are they gonna do the same old "his cells degenerate at a rapid level and he just melts into a pile of ooze: or does reed have a fail safe for him to self destruct? or is Donald Blake gonna be like WTF and have it out with him? hmm? i guess we'll have to wait and see

Originally posted by manjaro
man you som'itches disscussed the hell outta this thing in a few short hours...but one thing that perks my intrigue tho.. reed had to specifically tell that the others wont be ready for a month..Does this mean that tjere will be an Army of Clors to man each state? or will there be analogs of other uber powerful ppl as well, and how creeepy is it that tony lint brushed his couch for thor's hair?.....waitaminute .....werent Herc, hulk, She hulk, Gilgamesh, Jack of Hearts, Quasar, Both Cap. Marvels(mar-vell and rambeau), Cap britian, Wonderman, Namor, The thing, Crystal Sersi, and Thunderstrike all members of the Avengers too?!?😑not to mention Sentry...is my imagination running away with me or is it reasonable to assume that ol shell head got a hold of all thier DNA too? or maybe tony will just say screw and roll out an infantry of Warmachine Armors to keep the populace in check?

as for Clor, the science behind it as also perked my intrigue and here is what my OCD-like knowledge of Comic Book Science leads me to believeeven if they are boss at cloning I dont think they would be able to get Thor down to a tee, so much so that he has memory of them and can call their names out as he whoops their asses, the point being that i dont think they would be able to replicate his srentgh and durability, and memory just from one single follicle of hair so there is obviously some super soldiery tech involved..propbably those nutrient baths we see in the background is what is used to fortify his cellular structure..and some Weapon X'y type of conditioning for flase memory implants

the hammer is obviously not the real Mjolnir, or any trace of Uru. there is no way they could get thier hands on the material. so im thinking that its some sort of bio mechanical appartus that his able to Ionize the environment. NASA scientists are able to do the same trick to harnesses a bolt of lightning by sending a copper wire on a small rocket a few miles into the air when the clouds are dark(they even have some killer video of this), so im thinking that Clor does that a more super-massive scale. and keeping with thor's powerset his hammer probably artifically manipulates the environmet by f ****ing with said ionized particles.

for teleporting(if Clor can even do that) Reed is a whiz at that kind of stuff.. when it comes to 4-D engines, Warp Drives, and transpatial gates he has got that shit down... so no big guessing there. Also we have seen dude throw the hammer to smack the shit out of them and it came back to him, so that could probably be a localized TK field, that he also uses for flying...which implies a Personal Null gravity Generator..maybe its attuned to his body, his costume, or those gauntlets on his wrist, it could even be that belt he's wearing. Perhaps its thier version of his "belt of strength," and it allows him to pull a Gladiator, and seemingly increase his strentgh by wrapping a TK bubble around any object he touches so that A. its easier to Lift, and B. it doesnt collapse under its own weight..

well as i said im just guessing but even if im wrong i dont think im too far off😖mart: BTW whats gonna happen when Clor rebels aginast them? since he's obviously a living breathing person are they gonna be OK with killing him, or since the writers have made events unfold so predictably, are they gonna do the same old "his cells degenerate at a rapid level and he just melts into a pile of ooze: or does reed have a fail safe for him to self destruct? or is Donald Blake gonna be like WTF and have it out with him? hmm? i guess we'll have to wait and see

nice post. As far as thor goes. If they stay with continuity and DB thor shows up with the real hammer. This may awaken RKT only because for DB to be thor he has to siphon his energies from KT. This happened before in the issue where thor fought desak.

As far as the hammer goes. It may actually be a mold. Remember loki gave the mold of mjnior to surter who then created enough hammers for an army. Whos to say that a few of the hammers didn't crash on earth after Ragnarok like the one Doom found but a fake one. Reed or Iron man may have located one. It probably wouldn't have the enchanment so they could be lifted since thors hammer is the only one that odin cast the spell on.

true or it could be the one that thunderstrike had(iirc) didnt have the enchantment, or the same way thor gave Tony a smaple of the ore, that he later used to power the thor buster armor...thor could have also given him a sample of Uru as well

Just some thoughts.

I think that the guy with the ski mask is Clint (Hawkeye). In my mind he makes the most sense.

Does anyone else think that "Clor" is very interesting? Made from science but would he have any magical powers? Is Thor's magic in his body or just true his hammer? What about during the course of the war and in the Post Civil War Universe? How will the others react to him? How will he react to them? Will he think he's the real Thor and try to live like Thor or will he accept his fate as sub-human (cause that looks like how Reed treats him)? What about when the real Thor shows up? What will a confrontation be like? And could he have something to do on Asgard, would he go there? Sorry to think all of my questions like this but I'm really curious.

Spider-Man. I think he tries to switch sides next ish and the New Thunderbolts chase after him to bring him in.

Does anyone else think it's strange we've heard nothing from Sentry so far? I know Iron-Man said he doesn't wanna risk using Sentry (loose cannon and all that) and apparently he's been in the public eye saving people from natural disasters. But what about in the main title? I think that for someone like him he should be trying to grab some face time. I think he'll pop later on in the main title though.

Waiting on Namor to get involved. Throw in Black Bolt and enter the Black Panther and things should really get interesting. I think its important that we see fighting all over the planet.

What do you guys think? Are you interested in whats to come? Any thoughts or hopes? What would you like to see happen?

Originally posted by marvelprince
Just some thoughts.

I think that the guy with the ski mask is Clint (Hawkeye). In my mind he makes the most sense.

Does anyone else think that "Clor" is very interesting? Made from science but would he have any magical powers? Is Thor's magic in his body or just true his hammer? What about during the course of the war and in the Post Civil War Universe? How will the others react to him? How will he react to them? Will he think he's the real Thor and try to live like Thor or will he accept his fate as sub-human (cause that looks like how Reed treats him)? What about when the real Thor shows up? What will a confrontation be like? And could he have something to do on Asgard, would he go there? Sorry to think all of my questions like this but I'm really curious.

Spider-Man. I think he tries to switch sides next ish and the New Thunderbolts chase after him to bring him in.

Does anyone else think it's strange we've heard nothing from Sentry so far? I know Iron-Man said he doesn't wanna risk using Sentry (loose cannon and all that) and apparently he's been in the public eye saving people from natural disasters. But what about in the main title? I think that for someone like him he should be trying to grab some face time. I think he'll pop later on in the main title though.

Waiting on Namor to get involved. Throw in Black Bolt and enter the Black Panther and things should really get interesting. I think its important that we see fighting all over the planet.

What do you guys think? Are you interested in whats to come? Any thoughts or hopes? What would you like to see happen?

Agreed. Sentry should be Pro registrations trump card. He can't be any more of a loose canon than clor. What Im curous about is how many clors are their. No one usually succeeds on the first try.

Originally posted by marvelprince

Does anyone else think that "Clor" is very interesting? Made from science but would he have any magical powers? Is Thor's magic in his body or just true his hammer?

The Thor clone's hammer is cybernetic:

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b11/armandovalles/Scans/fakeThor.jpg

IF Clor survives Civil war i'm thinking he could be set up as a new ' Thunderstrike' style character.

Originally posted by Genis101
The Thor clone's hammer is cybernetic:

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b11/armandovalles/Scans/fakeThor.jpg

aw yes i see it..well no doubt it has miniturized versions of all the stuff i mentioned.or at least some of it 😮 (the ionizing and the Null gravity are definte tho, probably)

Originally posted by Big Sexy
I am not sure if this was a cop out or a good good reasoning. Thor should have no reason to be Pro registration. He went through this when he was King thor.

I know, but it just makes me angry that there is a Clor glare

Only 3 issues left!

Things better heat up!

Answer me this: If they can clone Thor once, whats stopping them to clone a 100 more if they need to take matters nto their own hands 😮

Originally posted by Ethereal
Answer me this: If they can clone Thor once, whats stopping them to clone a 100 more if they need to take matters nto their own hands 😮

Fifty states law .

They already have by the sound of it.

Wolverine # 46 and Civil War😘-men # 3 has been posted on the scans thread. Enjoy.

Originally posted by Grimm22
I know, but it just makes me angry that there is a Clor glare
Why? There's been so many clones in Marvel, I've lost count. Last issue, you saw Thor attack the anti-regs, now you're upset to find out it's not the real Thor?

I'll admit I was a little dissapointed by Clor.

I thought that maybe they could have had the real Thor under control of some of Reed's technology or magic or something.

But, I'm not too dissapointed. At least I'll root for Sentry for sure now if they fight.

Originally posted by SnakeEyes
I'll admit I was a little dissapointed by Clor.

I thought that maybe they could have had the real Thor under control of some of Reed's technology or magic or something.

But, I'm not too dissapointed. At least I'll root for Sentry for sure now if they fight.

Im not too disappointed because having Clor means that the real Thor sooner or later will destroy him.