Civil War Report

Originally posted by Grimm22
Ok, thats it 😐

I've had it with Marvel's ridiculous and constant corrupting of Tony's character. This is the straw that broke the camel's back

It wasn't enough for Marvel to make Tony an evil jerk who imprisons heroes because they don't sign a piece of paper, now he's

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mind wiping heroes and making them join teams?!?

I'm sorry, but you know what? **** Mark Millar disgust

who cares about the law, what makes it so right, its made by a buncg of men and women who keep secrets from the rest of the world and go to war with ountrys for no reason allot of the time

law=shit

Originally posted by MickeyJames
who cares about the law, what makes it so right, its made by a buncg of men and women who keep secrets from the rest of the world and go to war with ountrys for no reason allot of the time

law=shit

Yes, it is our morals that we use to guide and decide what becomes law, but what if a group has a different set of morals. It's against the law for an adult to have sex with a child, but what if the adult and child (let's say... 16) are both consenting. Does the law equal shit then?

The people who flew aircraft into building felt it was morally the right thing to do. Was it against the law? Yes. But the law is shit, so who cares. This person pissed me off, so I'm gonna put a hole in his head. I don't care if there are laws against it. He wronged me, and I'm gonna make him pay.

Do you truely want to know what this planet would be like without laws? With everyone just doing what THEY CONSIDER right? Do you still think the law is shit?

Originally posted by MickeyJames
who cares about the law, what makes it so right, its made by a buncg of men and women who keep secrets from the rest of the world and go to war with ountrys for no reason allot of the time

law=shit

So we're advocating anarchy now? What exactly happens in a world where people just do what they feel is right? Sounds like Sept. 11th every week

Originally posted by BlaqChaos
Yes, it is our morals that we use to guide and decide what becomes law, but what if a group has a different set of morals. It's against the law for an adult to have sex with a child, but what if the adult and child (let's say... 16) are both consenting. Does the law equal shit then?

The people who flew aircraft into building felt it was morally the right thing to do. Was it against the law? Yes. But the law is shit, so who cares. This person pissed me off, so I'm gonna put a hole in his head. I don't care if there are laws against it. He wronged me, and I'm gonna make him pay.

Do you [b]truely want to know what this planet would be like without laws? With everyone just doing what THEY CONSIDER right? Do you still think the law is shit? [/B]

So because something is a law it makes it right? I am not even going to begin to list previous US laws which have been against any moral code a decent humen being should have.

except they are saving people, sep 11 is killing, what side has been shooting missiles at kids ?? yes the law is shit, not all of it but this one is, these people have sacraficed everythinfgfor people, but now they have to risk theyre familys doing soemthing they dont beleive so yeah its shit

Law isn't necessarily right. I agree. There have been PLENTY of unjust laws, and plenty of tyrants who tried to put unjust laws in place.

However, ANY system of rule is better than an all-out anarchy. A monarchy, oligarchy, theocracy, democracy, republic, doesn't matter. ANY system is better than EVERYONE just going by what 'feels right' at the time.

the anti reg dont want to throw the world into chaos, htey just want the old ways, which have been fine apart froma few things, which is nothng compared to what normally happens and how many would be killed if they hadnt done what they FELT like needed to be done

Originally posted by Stupid Rookie
So because something is a law it makes it right? I am not even going to begin to list previous US laws which have been against any moral code a decent humen being should have.

Originally posted by MickeyJames
except they are saving people, sep 11 is killing, what side has been shooting missiles at kids ?? yes the law is shit, not all of it but this one is, these people have sacraficed everythinfgfor people, but now they have to risk theyre familys doing soemthing they dont beleive so yeah its shit

Originally posted by MickeyJames
the anti reg dont want to throw the world into chaos, htey just want the old ways, which have been fine apart froma few things, which is nothng compared to what normally happens and how many would be killed if they hadnt done what they FELT like needed to be done

Originally posted by BlaqChaos
What side endangers public safety and security? They may be making sacrifices for the public, but the public neither asked for or wants their sacrifices. The public has said they don't want their help, but the anti-regs are determined to give ti to them anyway.

so they just let doom thanos destroy the planet ? sounds like a plan to me, 😎 or let someone mug them, gotta love them 😱

Originally posted by BlaqChaos
You mean like laws that prevented women from voting, and had blacks as slaves? Yes, those laws existed, but when a law exist that people don't think is right, there is a right way and a wrong way to go about changing it. That's how those laws were changed. That's how blacks can now use the same facilities as white, and that's how women can now vote in elections. They didn't try to disregard the law or break it. They broke their backs to change it.

You mean there is a way to disagree with the law and try to change it by working within the confines of the Law, but that's the point, they aren't working within the confines of the Law because they disagree with certain aspects of the Law.

The problem with this debate is that both sides are wrong. Cap may disagree with the law but he is using violence which everybody and their mother knows is wrong. Tony is working within the confines of the Law but that doesn't make it morally justifiable because people like Hitler worked within the laws that they made up.

Originally posted by BlaqChaos
That "piece of paper" is the law. Period, no exceptions. He's enforcing the law. Are you saying that by having Iron Man enforce the law as opposed to breaking it like Captian America, Iron Man is being portrayed as a bad person? Because he don't want more children to be killed in reckless superhuman battles? Yes, what a vial, evil man.

True. But a mind-wipe isn't the way to go about it , this kinda crap is what started IC

Originally posted by MickeyJames
so they just let doom thanos destroy the planet ? sounds like a plan to me, 😎 or let someone mug them, gotta love them 😱

As it stands now, you have amatuers rushing in doing haphazards jobs that pros should be doing, and causing loss of property and life in the process.

It's like a person on the street thinking he has the right to fight crime just because they're carrying a gun. They have no training, no experiance, but they're motivated.

Scans...?

Originally posted by Jade Lightning
Scans...?

Did it come out today? 😬.

Originally posted by willRules
You mean there is a way to disagree with the law and try to change it by working within the confines of the Law, but that's the point, they aren't working within the confines of the Law because they disagree with certain aspects of the Law.

The problem with this debate is that both sides are wrong. Cap may disagree with the law but he is using violence which everybody and their mother knows is wrong. Tony is working within the confines of the Law but that doesn't make it morally justifiable because people like Hitler worked within the laws that they made up.

See I actually didn't think Cap was being violent. Shield attacked him remember. And when there was the battle with Clor, Cap's team wasn't going to fight, they were going to help innocent people. The bad stuff that has happened has mostly been a result of Tony's crew, or shield attacking Cap's guys. Luke Cage for example. Also, Cap has been making sure not to permanently hurt people (he could have killed tons). The only casualties have been a resuly of Tony's side.

And in regard to earlier comments about finding a way within the law to fight, that is crap. ever heard of Rosa Parks. She stood up to an unjust law and you might say she did it non-violently, but at the same time, 20 Shield agents weren't trying to kill her.

Cap and they guys just want to be able to go about their business and keep people safe., including their friends and family.

Originally posted by willRules
You mean there is a way to disagree with the law and try to change it by working within the confines of the Law, but that's the point, they aren't working within the confines of the Law because they disagree with certain aspects of the Law.

The problem with this debate is that both sides are wrong. Cap may disagree with the law but he is using violence which everybody and their mother knows is wrong. Tony is working within the confines of the Law but that doesn't make it morally justifiable because people like Hitler worked within the laws that they made up.

Originally posted by BlaqChaos
Close. You wre right about why Cap is wrong, but you were wrong about Iron Man. IM is wrong because he isn't working to change the law.

No, why would IM change the law, he likes the registration. He is wrong because the registration is persecution of superheroes ✅