Civil War Report

Started by Deverien258 pages

I thought issue #5 was better than the last one.

One thing that disappointed me, though, was that the cover and description made it sound like there'd be a whole mess o' villains tearing Spidey apart. Instead we only get two of the crummier ones. Beyond the one group shot, we didn't even get to see the heavier hitters like Bullseye, Taskmaster, and Venom.

Originally posted by Stupid Rookie
That is the dumbest thing I have ever heard. Majority doesn't rule. So if the majority of people think women shouldn't be allowed to vote, then they shouldn't?
But it's the world you live in:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DEMOCRACY

Originally posted by Stupid Rookie
Ahh, so being born is the law they broke. yeah because that makes sense. Throughout different periods of time it has been "wrong" to be a ceratin way. Wrong to be a certain religion, or color, or have a brith defect.

There are people that just have powers and don't want to use them.

*GASP*!!! Cap was bron a super soldier!?!?

Originally posted by willRules
Hey you can say it all in upper case if you want. but even if it is "STILL THE LAW" That doesn't "JUSTIFY THE NATURE OF THE LAW"

Imagine you are a Jew in Nazi Germany. Your family and you are forced to register under the names Sarah for woman and and Israel for men. You are also banned from any rights you had before as a citizen. The media is against you, the majority of people are against you but when the S.S come calling to send you off to Auschwitz, you and your family will go quietly right? Cos as you so quaintly put it "IT IS STILL THE LAW."

If your family was starving, and you saw a chance to steal some bread to feed them, would you?

Originally posted by MickeyJames
OK If youlike to use your wrong point. I will use them to put forward my right point. IT IS LAW BUT IT IS WRONG
Right and wrong are matters of context and opinion in this case. Based on ones persoanl beliefs and values. There is no ambiguity about the law.

... SCANS>>>

Originally posted by Stupid Rookie
You honestly are an idiot if that is what you believe. You think that opressed people didn't try to fight back. Learn some history and then come back here.

There are currently laws againsts all sorts of stuff in this country, I guarantee you break the law all the time without knowing it. yet it is still the law.

I am a student of history, and a person that can look at a situation objectivly, without letting emotions cloud my judgement. There were millions of slaves brought over from Africa, but was there a war with millions of blacks fighting their slave masters? No.

Did the Jew all fight back against what was being done to them? No.

In both cases, the vast majority were not involved in direct combat of any kind.

As far as me breaking the law, I've been enforcing the law for over 13 years now.

Originally posted by BlaqChaos
If your family was starving, and you saw a chance to steal some bread to feed them, would you?

I probably would. I would also like to note that I would consider my actions wrong and not justifiable, even though I had no choice in the matter ✅

Originally posted by BlaqChaos
I am a student of history, and a person that can look at a situation objectivly, without letting emotions cloud my judgement. There were millions of slaves brought over from Africa, but was there a war with millions of blacks fighting their slave masters? No.

Did the Jew all fight back against what was being done to them? No.

In both cases, the vast majority were not involved in direct combat of any kind.

As far as me breaking the law, I've been enforcing the law for over 13 years now.

You'll find every oppressed miniority has fought for there rights!!!

List of North American slave revolts
New York Revolt of 1712 (1712)
Stono Rebellion (1739)
New York Slave Insurrection of 1741
Tacky's War (1760)
Gabriel's Rebellion (1800)
Louisiana Territory Slave Rebellion, led by Charles Deslandes (1811)
George Boxley Rebellion (1815)
Fort Blount Revolt (1816)
Denmark Vesey's Uprising (1822)
Nat Turner's Rebellion (1831)
Amistad Seizure (1839)
John Brown raids Harpers Ferry, Virginia (1859)

The most important reaction was making the neighboring country of Canada the main destination of choice for runaway slaves. Only a few hundred runaways made it to Canada in the 1850s.

You'll find that not every one has the luxury of fighting against the system so of course a vast majority could not do anything against it.

Ghetto Uprising refers to an armed struggle by Jews and other ethnic groups incarcerated in Nazi Ghettos during World War II against the plans to deport all the inhabitants to concentration and death camps.

I don't mean to sound rude but one day you may get screwed over by the law and realise it's not just there for societies benefit it has been corrupted with agenda for a long time.

Originally posted by willRules
Both sides are wrong anyway ✅
Truer words were never spoken. Both are equally wrong.

Originally posted by Jade Lightning
... SCANS>>>
Not in this thread, remember.

Originally posted by willRules
I probably would. I would also like to note that I would consider my actions wrong and not justifiable, even though I had no choice in the matter ✅

1) You alway have a choice. We tell ourselves that we had no choice in an option as w way to excuse our actions.

2) So you're saying you'd comprimise your own morals to achieve an objective?

Originally posted by BlaqChaos
Not in this thread, remember.

I know i'm just wondering who's posting them and when...

Originally posted by Jade Lightning
I know i'm just wondering who's posting them and when...

Calm yourself, they'll likely be up by tomorrow.

Originally posted by BlaqChaos
That "piece of paper" is the law. Period, no exceptions. He's enforcing the law. Are you saying that by having Iron Man enforce the law as opposed to breaking it like Captian America, Iron Man is being portrayed as a bad person? Because he don't want more children to be killed in reckless superhuman battles? Yes, what a vial, evil man.

The point is that the law made heroes give up their identities, right?

Even though S.H.E.I.L.D already has 99% of the heroes identities?!? 🤨

What's the point of locking them in jail, S.H.E.I.L.D already has all the info they need?!?

It also doesn't make sense how Cap is being hunted down, he doesn't have a secret identity, he isn't breaking the law 😐

Originally posted by S-Ranger
You'll find every oppressed miniority has fought for there rights!!!

List of North American slave revolts
New York Revolt of 1712 (1712)
Stono Rebellion (1739)
New York Slave Insurrection of 1741
Tacky's War (1760)
Gabriel's Rebellion (1800)
Louisiana Territory Slave Rebellion, led by Charles Deslandes (1811)
George Boxley Rebellion (1815)
Fort Blount Revolt (1816)
Denmark Vesey's Uprising (1822)
Nat Turner's Rebellion (1831)
Amistad Seizure (1839)
John Brown raids Harpers Ferry, Virginia (1859)

The most important reaction was making the neighboring country of Canada the main destination of choice for runaway slaves. Only a few hundred runaways made it to Canada in the 1850s.

You'll find that not every one has the luxury of fighting against the system so of course a vast majority could not do anything against it.

Ghetto Uprising refers to an armed struggle by Jews and other ethnic groups incarcerated in Nazi Ghettos during World War II against the plans to deport all the inhabitants to concentration and death camps.

I don't mean to sound rude but one day you may get screwed over by the law and realise it's not just there for societies benefit it has been corrupted with agenda for a long time.

Which part of my post did you nopt read? Where I said there were millions of slave, or where I said the majority were not in direct combat? Because in almost NONE of your examples were there the majority of people fighting.

Originally posted by BlaqChaos
Yes, it is our morals that we use to guide and decide what becomes law, but what if a group has a different set of morals. It's against the law for an adult to have sex with a child, but what if the adult and child (let's say... 16) are both consenting. Does the law equal shit then?

The people who flew aircraft into building felt it was morally the right thing to do. Was it against the law? Yes. But the law is shit, so who cares. This person pissed me off, so I'm gonna put a hole in his head. I don't care if there are laws against it. He wronged me, and I'm gonna make him pay.

Do you [b]truely want to know what this planet would be like without laws? With everyone just doing what THEY CONSIDER right? Do you still think the law is shit? [/B]

Good point Chaos 😬

Originally posted by Grimm22
The point is that the law made heroes give up their identities, right?

Even though S.H.E.I.L.D already has 99% of the heroes identities?!? 🤨

What's the point of locking them in jail, S.H.E.I.L.D already has all the info they need?!?

It also doesn't make sense how Cap is being hunted down, he doesn't have a secret identity, he isn't breaking the law 😐

It's not about giving up a their secret identities, it's about them all becoming traing and licensed US (Super)Marshals.

Cap does not believe that government beauracracies can adaquatly regulate superhuman activities without corruption.

Originally posted by BlaqChaos
1) You [b]alway have a choice. We tell ourselves that we had no choice in an option as w way to excuse our actions.[/B]

Very true ✅ I cannot argue with that

Originally posted by BlaqChaos
2) So you're saying you'd comprimise your own morals to achieve an objective?

No I'm saying I might.

And I'm guessing this is the part where you go on to say Tony is doing the same thing and I reply with "That still doesn't make it right."

😆 I think we are both starting to get predictable 😄

Originally posted by BlaqChaos
It's not about giving up a their secret identities, it's about them all becoming traing and licensed US (Super)Marshals.

Cap does not believe that government beauracracies can adaquatly regulate superhuman activities without corruption.

And Cap is right (for the most part)

Although I do believe that heroes should be managed and trained

For registration to work there needs to be a middle man