Civil War Report

Originally posted by Grimm22
The worst part of the book is easily Storm, seriously, bring her back to the X-men or kill her off or something!

Anything is better than having her character be wasted in Black Panther's book

I agree, Storm is one of my favorite X-men and I hate to see her as a side character too. I couldnt understand why would Marvel would wanna do that to her but now I see it was that Hudlin idiot. I guess Mysti Knight wasnt too popular for him or he wasnt aware of her.

Originally posted by Blind
I actually liked the last issue of BP. Isn't there going to be a World War after the CW is over??? I think they're doing a good job planting the seeds for that here.

Are u referring to Silent War mini series? The Inhumans declared war on humans for stealing the Terrigen Mist.

Good Storm:

Dumb Storm:

Gotta love the look on Namor's face "WTF is this retard woman talking about? We weren't talking about Susan, were we? No...we were talking about stuff that affects the whole world and she starts spouting about love triangels."

The Storm that I used to be the fan of would never interrupt someone much more experienced and wiser then she is for a dumb reason like that.

Originally posted by manorastroman
you're funny.

you misread something i very plainly said in jest anyway, and then exploded your "righteousness" all over my face (pun certainly intended, wanker). "and people wonder why we don't like them", well now i know why people don't like [B]you.

😗 i'm definitely dropping out of this before it gets too ugly, but i would like to point out the similarities in your reaction and an the reactions in an equivilent situation of your so called 'ofays'. but i guess it's okay, because of the minority/majority dichotomy, and of course, because you've read howard zinn. COME ON!

you've got a looooong ways to go. [/B]

Ive read more than Howard Zinn. Ive also read countless books by BP members, the most recent beinq the autobiqoraphy of assata shakur and her time spent in a racist prison institution as a political prisoner. I have also just finished readinq a book titled "forty million dollar slaves" chroniclinq the exploitation of the black athlete from antebellum plantation era to the modern plantation era beinq used today. Those are the most recent outside of my daily dose of eurocentrik bullshit. Just bc you drop this does not mean it won't qet uqly. Hell its uqly for a really lonq time (500+ yrs) You say that you find me funny, not surprisinq, bc white people no matter what evidence qathered will always deny the truth. Next you say that I wonder why no one likes me. I know why you dont like me bc I'm not a tap dancinq sambo or iqnorant like so many of you are accustomed to seeinq. I would rather be the most unpopular person here, than be any of you all's pet neqro. The last thinq I will address is you talk of socialism as if it is an evil qovernment system; I am interested to hear your thouqhts on capitalism. You know whats really funny thouqh is that this is a marvel event called the civil war and in this thread you just want to iqnore racism and how it manifests in every aspect of our lives includinq comic books. My term ofay refers to the typical white person who has a view of the world shape in a completely white space, they are unaware of white privileqe or the role they play in propoqatinq the system, or if they are they want to maintain it. Peace holla, I'm done, you can all qo back to your reqularly scheduled monotony.

Peace

Originally posted by Dynamic One
You say that you find me funny, not surprisinq, bc white people no matter what evidence qathered will always deny the truth.

racist idiot. what truth? what are you even talking about?

Originally posted by Dynamic One
I know why you dont like me bc I'm not a tap dancinq sambo or iqnorant like so many of you are accustomed to seeinq.

i don't like you because you're a racist. i assume the "you" in question is white people...what has led you to believe i'm white?

Originally posted by Dynamic One
The last thinq I will address is you talk of socialism as if it is an evil qovernment system; I am interested to hear your thouqhts on capitalism.

i didn't say any such thing. i just pointed out the irony of an extremely wealthy socialist.

Originally posted by Dynamic One
My term ofay refers to the typical white person who has a view of the world shape in a completely white space, they are unaware of white privileqe or the role they play in propoqatinq the system, or if they are they want to maintain it.

"your" term ofay is the equivilent of ni gger.

Damn you Reggie Hudlin! You're tearing KMC apart! 😛

Originally posted by Dynamic One
You are just as iqnorant had you never picked up a book. In case you didn't know, there was an official qovernemnt operation called Cointel Pro which operated to infiltrate and undermine the Black nationalist, as well as stifle the movements of many other revolutionary qroups. Many of these infiltrators were black cops, who after servinq a time, wrote a skewed version of events. Coincidently there were many key members of the BPP who were locked up for life, or outriqht executed leavinq behind a leadership vacuum filled by the same infiltrators, this occured in the waninq years of the BPP. There is a difference between racism and discrimination. The former (racism) beinq individuals who throuqh leqislation or policy act out their biases on aqainst another bc of their "race" the latter is to apply a personal bias in favor or aqainst an individual which can be for many reasons not includinq "race." I dont liek to repeat myself but racism can only be achieved throuqh policy makinq, and currently the only people at the ability to make these policies in the context of the amerikkkas, europe, afrika and the middle east are and for the last 500+ years have been white people. How exactly were the BPP racist aqain? You wanna cite evidence? How about you stop readinq the wronq books, published by ofay inc. How bout you start with Howard Zinn "A people's history of the united states 1492 to the present"

Wait, wait, wait.... did someone actually recommend that I should read A People's History of the United States: 1492-Present? Sorry to disappoint but I have read that book, and I hate to tell you that I know enough of America's history not to be swayed by that biased left-wing, communist hog-wash.

Nice to see you aren't below using racial slurs to help your debating skills... but I guess your unfounded (and utter ridiculous) claim that racism can only come from a possession of power helps you deal with your own racism though.

Well... I'm not going to get into this anymore. You are a joke, you are offensive and you have no clue what you are talking about.

So...um...how about that Ant Man eh? 😛

I think there's one thing we can all agree with here...

Racoons should not have jetpacks 😄

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Has this been posted yet?

http://timetostartdrinkingagain.ytmnd.com/

How about we discuss a different aspect of the New Black Panther comic?

Like for instance why is the Civil War being portrayed as a one dimensional event? The whole point of it is to show that niether side is fully right/wrong...and both sides have their flaws. So why is the Storm/BP's side being portrayed as if it's the ONLY right side all of a sudden?

And why is staying neutral such a bad thing...and yes I'm quite pissed off at Emmas portrayl...not witty enough...and I felt she didn't get her point across as well as she did in Civil War #3 and New X-Men #28.

Oh yeah, and what was with the severed head of Kitty Pryde in Emma's room?

...hey, it looked like that. It's not my fault if the artist makes it look odd. 😛

Originally posted by DarkCrawler
Oh yeah, and what was with the severed head of Kitty Pryde in Emma's room?

...hey, it looked like that. It's not my fault if the artist makes it look odd. 😛

Now that you mention it, it does look quite odd...

http://img87.imageshack.us/my.php?image=blz08ok0.jpg
http://img519.imageshack.us/my.php?image=blz07sh3.jpg

Ah well so what if he potrayed her as just another rich lady...at least her position as Co-Headmistress of the X-Men is not being overshadowed by her boyfriend....the Storm/Black Panther relationship is just so unbalanced it's not even funny anymore....

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Wait, wait, wait.... did someone actually recommend that I should read A People's History of the United States: 1492-Present? Sorry to disappoint but I have read that book, and I hate to tell you that I know enough of America's history not to be swayed by that biased left-wing, communist hog-wash.

Nice to see you aren't below using racial slurs to help your debating skills... but I guess your unfounded (and utter ridiculous) claim that racism can only come from a possession of power helps you deal with your own racism though.

Well... I'm not going to get into this anymore. You are a joke, you are offensive and you have no clue what you are talking about.

I'm not surprised at your iqnorance, I'm really not. I think the one thinq that pisses me off is that eventually people like you qrow up and have influence over others and bc you do not realize the role you play in this world you will only reinforce a qlobal system that has been destroyinq this world. My accusations are unfounded, exactly what have you read that can counter my claim? Brinq all your evidence to the table, ill brinq mine too we can even make a separate thread for it. Then we will see who is a joke and is not. I'm not racist. The reason I dont like a majority of white people is bc of their pov, their collective perception of the world and their refusal to acknowledqe their role in it. Ive qot beef with everybody, but I have the most beeh to cook with white people. Until you have lived the life of an oppressed, you can't call me racist or claim that my statements are unfounded an arbitrary. If you wanna debate this further let me know we can qo round and on another thread and of you all are invited to watch, participate and examine.

Originally posted by DarkCrawler
Good Storm:

Dumb Storm:

Gotta love the look on Namor's face "WTF is this retard woman talking about? We weren't talking about Susan, were we? No...we were talking about stuff that affects the whole world and she starts spouting about love triangels."

The Storm that I used to be the fan of would never interrupt someone much more experienced and wiser then she is for a dumb reason like that.

BTW did people still want the Runaways/YA Civil War Xover? Just a preemptive... it's meh... but I can still scan it if people want it.

Originally posted by ExodusCloak
How about we discuss a different aspect of the New Black Panther comic?

Like for instance why is the Civil War being portrayed as a one dimensional event? The whole point of it is to show that niether side is fully right/wrong...and both sides have their flaws. So why is the Storm/BP's side being portrayed as if it's the ONLY right side all of a sudden?

And why is staying neutral such a bad thing...and yes I'm quite pissed off at Emmas portrayl...not witty enough...and I felt she didn't get her point across as well as she did in Civil War #3 and New X-Men #28.

Originally posted by Dynamic One
I'm not surprised at your iqnorance, I'm really not. I think the one thinq that pisses me off is that eventually people like you qrow up and have influence over others and bc you do not realize the role you play in this world you will only reinforce a qlobal system that has been destroyinq this world. My accusations are unfounded, exactly what have you read that can counter my claim? Brinq all your evidence to the table, ill brinq mine too we can even make a separate thread for it. Then we will see who is a joke and is not. I'm not racist. The reason I dont like a majority of white people is bc of their pov, their collective perception of the world and their refusal to acknowledqe their role in it. Ive qot beef with everybody, but I have the most beeh to cook with white people. Until you have lived the life of an oppressed, you can't call me racist or claim that my statements are unfounded an arbitrary. If you wanna debate this further let me know we can qo round and on another thread and of you all are invited to watch, participate and examine.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
.She's not witty because Hudlin is an inadequate writer, and she's depicted as rich uncaring Aryan white woman because Hudlin slants everything with his personal political views.

I can deal with the first part...I mean you can't blame someone for not being good enough...but the last part...a bit of research on the characters he's writing would have helped...and this should also apply to the characterisations of Doom, Namor etc. Meh...just so unfair what're the credentials needed to become a writer at Marvel?

Originally posted by manorastroman
racist idiot. what truth? what are you even talking about?

i don't like you because you're a racist. i assume the "you" in question is white people...what has led you to believe i'm white?

i didn't say any such thing. i just pointed out the irony of an extremely wealthy socialist.

"your" term ofay is the equivilent of ni gger.

If you are not white you should be even more ashamed of yourself

Next do you know what he is doinq with his wealth and he is not my first , only, or primary source of information. I have read the autobioqraphy of malcolm x, cointel pro documents, documents pertaininq to the iran contra scandal (which is why druqs have been floodinbq the streets of afrikan amerikans and latino neiqhborhoods. The list can qo on and on, but what is quite apparent is that your knowledqe base is limited and suspect. You dont qet it, and you dont want to.

Next, no word especially ofay can equate with niqqer. That term has been used to dehumanize to destroy, and justify the slavery of my people which are afrikan and sioux (I have much beef with white people) for you to equate ofay to that word is a joke and only hiqhliqhts your lack of understandinq history and present time. However the joke is not funny bc people die for your prvileqe to maintain that privileqe and convenienc of beinq (if not white) a brainwashed youth.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Eugh... seriously crap writing.

BTW did people still want the Runaways/YA Civil War Xover? Just a preemptive... it's meh... but I can still scan it if people want it.She's not witty because Hudlin is an inadequate writer, and she's depicted as rich uncaring Aryan white woman because Hudlin slants everything with his personal political views. She's the bad guy. Whereas in other depictions it's made perfectly clear why Emma's staying neutral for the sake of her students, many of which have died lately due to the aftermath of HoM. Hi, stfu no1 cares kthxbye.

I'm not qoin anywhere. I'm qoinq to throw it in your face everytime. Obviously you care bc you responded. Everytime you respond with iqnoranc I will counter it with evidence and loqic present in history.

Dude. Keep it on topic. This is about comics, not world political stuggles or racism.

See that it stops or I'll be forced to edit comments and/or issue an official warning.

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and what's with the q? Is there a legit reason, do you enjoy annoying others, or is it just because you're 14 and have nothing better to do?

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Eugh... seriously crap writing.

BTW did people still want the Runaways/YA Civil War Xover? Just a preemptive... it's meh... but I can still scan it if people want it.

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