Civil War Report

Originally posted by Jade Lightning
Yeah one small problem with your reasoning... that wasn't Thor, it was a clone of him... hardly a viable substitute... And big whoop, Clor played a big part in furthering the plot; he was basically a plot device, nothing more, and in no way is the story of Civil War built at all around Clor/ no less Thor for that matter, since, well, he's dead and all, and i'm numb to it, and I think the majority of comics readers are as well. I personally get annoyed when they take out characters just to bring them back... Thor and Hawkeye should both stay dead, but they obviously won't have the balls to do that even to one of them.

Originally posted by grey fox
It was lined up FOR Thor , it was a cheap last minute change because Stracynzki decided to ruin another series (not content with his magic spider and pissing on continuity)

Anyway....

and in no way is the story of Civil War built at all around Clor/ no less Thor for that matter, since, well, he's dead and all, and i'm numb to it, and I think the majority of comics readers are as well.

No , the story was written about shoddy politics , continuity ****-ups , spiderman and Iron-man douchebaggery.

Alright, so basically you shouldn't even be debating in the Civil War forum since you're really not even concerned about the story in the least. All you're concerned about is the status of your dead character Thor... don't worry, he's coming back-unfortunately in my view- but I have no doubts about his return at all, and I know that you feel the same way.

Sorry, there's no subtitle to this series that says "Civil War: Thor's Return"... and thank god for that, but not the washed-up norse thunder-wielding god, the metaphorical god that stands for all that is right and good and reasonable, because I don't care about the norse one.

did the new issue come out?

Originally posted by Jade Lightning
Alright, so basically you shouldn't even be debating in the Civil War forum since you're really not even concerned about the story in the least. All you're concerned about is the status of your dead character Thor... don't worry, he's coming back-unfortunately in my view- but I have no doubts about his return at all, and I know that you feel the same way.

Sorry, there's no subtitle to this series that says "Civil War: Thor's Return"... and thank god for that, but not the washed-up norse thunder-wielding god, the metaphorical god that stands for all that is right and good and reasonable, because I don't care about the norse one.

Is someone feeling bitter ?

I'm not a big fan of Thor, just because i debate FOR a character doesn't necessarily mean I HAVE to like him. When you can wrap your mind around that bend then you can actually start contributing something meaningful. Also , I can damn well debate where I like.

But if you want to get the story involved , fine. It's pretty shoddy , Iron-man is a douche-bag , continuity screw ups as well as the other shit pointed by people who have WAAAAAAAY more patience then me.

Haha, I find it funny that you're questioning my debating ability, when you started out by stating, quite literally... "Civil War will be GARBAGE if Thor doesn't return in the final issue..."

I addressed this complaint by detailing why I felt that Thor really has no bearing on the story of Civil War... And after all you just mentioned, about continuity and the like, do you still stand by your original statement that bringing Thor into it will make it that much better? Because if you do, that's liking the character quite a bit, fanboyism.

Furthermore, you didn't "debate" anything, you simply made a statement of what you believed to be fact, that's not debating...

Originally posted by Jade Lightning
Haha, I find it funny that you're questioning my debating ability, when you started out by stating, quite literally... "Civil War will be GARBAGE if Thor doesn't return in the final issue..."

I addressed this complaint by detailing why I felt that Thor really has no bearing on the story of Civil War... And after all you just mentioned, about continuity and the like, do you still stand by your original statement that bringing Thor into it will make it that much better? Because if you do, that's liking the character quite a bit, fanboyism.

Furthermore, you didn't "debate" anything, you simply made a statement of what you believed to be fact, that's not debating...

Look past your hatred for just a few seconds and you'll see that I stated without Thor we LOSE some of the harder hitting points in the story. Not that it'll be garbage (I'm saying it's garbage because it wasn't very well written , with Tony acting like a dick for no reason , centering to damn much of Spidey and generally turning into a Crisis like cash-cow with all it's extensions and 'must haves'😉 . Also for all your so called cries of fanboyism YOUR the one bitching about Thor retuning more then any of us.

Brining the 'Real' Thor back into it at this moment in time wouldn't do jack shit , it's to late for his arrival to make a large enough impact. Which is what Civil War #4 set everyone up for.

You specifically stated that "Civil War will be garbage if Thor doesn't return in the final issue." That's a quote.

So don't cite other reasons for why you said what you said, and don't try to tell me to look past my "hate", I don't like Thor, I think he's a foolish, uninteresting and unoriginal character, that's my view, I was merely challenging the statement you made- that you're apparently retracting now- and I've said what I wanted to, so I think we can leave it at that.

Originally posted by Jade Lightning
You specifically stated that "Civil War will be garbage if Thor doesn't return in the final issue." That's a quote.

So don't cite other reasons for why you said what you said, and don't try to tell me to look past my "hate", I don't like Thor, I think he's a foolish, uninteresting and unoriginal character, that's my view, I was merely challenging the statement you made- that you're apparently retracting now- and I've said what I wanted to, so I think we can leave it at that.

When , give me the page and i'll shut up.

Until then your hating for the sake of it. I despise Nova , i think he has a stupid costume and his powers suck. Yet you dont see me in his ongoing thread bitching about.

Originally posted by grey fox
When , give me the page and i'll shut up.

Until then your hating for the sake of it. I despise Nova , i think he has a stupid costume and his powers suck. Yet you dont see me in his ongoing thread bitching about.

My bad, I confused you with Soujaboy, who has the same icon. He was the one who said that, so what we've been arguing about was all directed toward him.

Originally posted by Jade Lightning
My bad, I confused you with Soujaboy, who has the same icon. He was the one who said that, so what we've been arguing about was all directed toward him.

Ahhh , honest mistake.

Were in the same group after-all.

Originally posted by grey fox
I despise Nova , i think he has a stupid costume and his powers suck.

You're dead to me 😠

what continuity errors are you upset about, grey fox?

Originally posted by Jade Lightning
This is a forum, people debate in a forum, so if you don't like it and aren't able to articulate and argue your views and opinions, I think you should stop whining because nobody's going to listen to you...

Good come-back by the way... i totally don't have the impression that you're 8 years old.

When did having a stagnant hate for a character become debating?

My opinion was already posted. It clearly said "shut up" which is what I felt you should have done at the time.

"Whining"? you've been the only one whining through the duration of the last few pages. "Thor sucks because this, Thor sucks because this". Sounds like whining to me, how bout you?

Thank you, it was the only response acceptable for your redicules post.

Not 8, 15. 😉

Originally posted by Soujaboy
When did having a stagnant hate for a character become debating?

My opinion was already posted. It clearly said "shut up" which is what I felt you should have done at the time.

"Whining"? you've been the only one whining through the duration of the last few pages. "Thor sucks because this, Thor sucks because this". Sounds like whining to me, how bout you?

Thank you, it was the only response acceptable for your redicules post.

Not 8, 15. 😉

Lol, actually by definition shut up isn't an opinion at all, it's a command, and I'd avoid those here if I were you because they make you sound rediculous.

Originally posted by Jade Lightning
Lol, actually by definition shut up isn't an opinion at all, it's a command, and I'd avoid those here if I were you because they make you sound rediculous.

Opinion or command, it's something you should have done. 🙂

No, what sounds ridicules is "Thor has nothing to do with Civil War". 🙂

Originally posted by Soujaboy
Opinion or command, it's something you should have done. 🙂

No, what sounds ridicules is "Thor has nothing to do with Civil War". 🙂

Originally posted by capt it up
he really does not. he really is not important to the story

Besides the fact that he was initially intended to return and turn the tide of the War. Look at the lineups, and you'll see why Thor would have had so a large impact on the war.

Originally posted by Soujaboy
Besides the fact that he was initially intended to return and turn the tide of the War. Look at the lineups, and you'll see why Thor would have had so a large impact on the war.

Originally posted by Soujaboy
Besides the fact that he was initially intended to return and turn the tide of the War. Look at the lineups, and you'll see why Thor would have had so a large impact on the war.

yes if he returned which he did not.

Even if thor does nto return it won't matter. If though return's the fight will be closer, but the fact is he not needed in the story though I hope he deos show up.

Originally posted by capt it up
yes if he returned which he did not.

Even if thor does nto return it won't matter. If though return's the fight will be closer, but the fact is he not needed in the story though I hope he deos show up.

Fair enough

However Marvel needs to do something to make this final battle believable.