Ghost Rider vs Blue Devil (& Kid Devil)

Okay 2 fights

1) Ghost Rider vs Blue Devil

2) Ghost Rider vs Blue Devil & Kid Devil

Blue Devil wins via trident sending Ghost Rider back to Hell.

Ghost Rider can go in and out of hell all he wants with his new upgrade.

I have read the new series and Lucifer basically allowed him to cross over so he could cross over with him onto our plane.

He has yet to show effortlessly cross over from one plane to another

Is the new series any good?

No he gave him the power to do it. read issue 3-4

Decent, I like the idea of Lucifer. Think of the Jet Li movie, "The One".

Originally posted by Starhawk
No he gave him the power to do it. read issue 3-4

Thanks I have it, he has yet to cross over effortlessly.

oh thanx...I'll probably just by the graphic novel when it comes out

He tells strange he;s going to drag Lucifer back into hell. This shows he can do it without Lucifer's co-operation.

and yet he has not done anything of the sort...yet. Hence my comment he hasn't crossed over effortlessly.

Also that was simple character boosting, but he has yet to show he can cross over with ease.

Dr Strange told him that he was given the power to do it and so far there has been nothing to indicate that power has been removed.

There's nothing to indicate he can do it easily as we don't know how he can transverse the planes. Hence no on-panel feats...yet.

Simply boosting to Strange who he believed was Lucifer at that time is not concrete evidence of how he can easily transverse the planes. It was him angry and wanting revenge.

No but it was stated that lucifer gave him the power to go in and out of hell and we have seen no evidence that power was removed.

Yes, but have we seen him do it? no. Have we gotten an explanation how he does it? no. Do we know he can do it easily? No. Hence my comments.

It was stated on panel that he was given the power to and we havent seen any proof that it was taken away so we have to assume he still has it.

Once again read what I said, I'm not denying it but we have yet to see how he can achieve this or if he can do it easily. As of yet he has no on-panel feats crossing over. See what I mean?

Yes but we know he was given the power and no evidence it was taken away so we assume he still has it.

...ooook, look at my post above, I even said he had it but we don't know the principles or his ability to do this. For all we know if he uses it again it would be a one way trip, or leave him fatique or whatever. As of right now, no on-panel feats or explanation yet so it's impossible to explain his "new" ability would work especially since Blue Devil could rountinely return him back to Hell.

1) Prove to me that he no longer has the power with on panel proof and I will believe you.

2) He might not have time to do it before Ghost Rider gets to him.