Ghost Rider vs Blue Devil (& Kid Devil)

Originally posted by King_Mungi
HA! Draco now you are in the endless loop! 😛

He'll just stonewall again with:

"Nuh-uh! My opinion is valid! Therefore it's right! Therefore you're wrong! Therefore I win! HUZZAH!"

🙄

I never said anything close to that. We both have opinions on this and its an open question. But his opinion is no more or less valid then mine, since there is no evidence to say he can or can't do it with ease.

Originally posted by Starhawk
No he made the assumption that it was a one time thing and I said we have no proof of that. His opinion is no more or less valid then mine.

Um. NO.

YOU are the one that made that assumption. He is the one that said we have no proof of that.

Are you having some sort severe personality disorder?

😂

You got your roles mixed up.....

Hitler: No! I was the one who was sent to the concentration camps! The Jews put me there!

Originally posted by Starhawk
No he made the assumption that it was a one time thing and I said we have no proof of that. His opinion is no more or less valid then mine.

No I didn't, did you actually...forget it nevermind your only hearing what you want to hear.

Originally posted by Starhawk
I never said anything close to that. We both have opinions on this and its an open question. But his opinion is no more or less valid then mine, since there is no evidence to say he can or can't do it with ease.

Originally posted by Draco69
He'll just stonewall again with:

"Nuh-uh! My opinion is valid! Therefore it's right! Therefore you're wrong! Therefore I win! HUZZAH!"

🙄

🙄

Originally posted by King_Mungi
No I didn't, did you actually...forget it nevermind your only hearing what you want to hear.

No, I think he heard you. And his dissociative personality somehow managed to convince him that he was saying the things you were saying and you were saying the things he was saying.

It's cycle of self-abuse....

wow, you have to be rude to debate. I feel pity for you.

We have no evidence to say ethier way on this, there is no evidence to support ethier of our opinions on this.

Originally posted by Starhawk
wow, you have to be rude to debate. I feel pity for you.

We have no evidence to say ethier way on this, there is no evidence to support ethier of our opinions on this.

Hence my comments on pg.1-2. We don't know.

I agree, so I won't assume one way if you don't assujme another.

Wether or not he can enter and exit hell is an open question. Maybe he can, maybe he can't. We don't know for sure.

Still it's not important enough to start being rude over and fighting, I think allot of the people on these boards have been made angry and bitter by taking this too seriously.

It's christmas time, sit back and have fun.

You were assuming he could, I said we don't know the facts. Then you repeatably made the comments about how I said he didn't have the power which I stated he did several times.

I don't care in the end, Blue Devil should win the majority in the end thanks to his new trident.

No you were assuming he can't, I never said 100% sure that he could. And what exactly does the trident do?

Originally posted by Starhawk
No you were assuming he can't, I never said 100% sure that he could. And what exactly does the trident do?

Where did I say he can't? Find me a direct quote as I never did, pleaSe read what I wrote.

Send and track demons, send magical blasts, send demons to hell, render powerful people such as Eclipso incapacitated once the trident peirced her. It's called "Trident of Lucifer"

find me a direct quote where I say 100% that he can. Could this be a misunderstanding?

You said it a few times.

Originally posted by Starhawk
Ghost Rider can go in and out of hell all he wants with his new upgrade.

Originally posted by Starhawk
He tells strange he;s going to drag Lucifer back into hell. This shows he can do it without Lucifer's co-operation.

Originally posted by Starhawk
And Ghost Rider can escape hell.

I admit the first one which I posted before we started debating the issue.

And I stand by the second statement, and he has escaped hell WITHOUT lucifers power before through other means. so thats what was behind my 3rd statement.

and yet the debate is about his "new" ability to cross over the planes, you talking about other events have nothing to do what we were debating.

Yet still showing he has more then one way to escape hell.

In any event we agree that there is no 100% yes or no on the subject. Hence no more need for debate.

Why bring up points that we were never discussing in the first place? makes no sense

I don't care, I said that on pg.1

And yet you debated for 3 pages abotu somehting you care nothing about? Actions speak louder then words. Your taking this way to seriously.

In any event we agree theres no clear awnser and thats whats important, glad we could come together and reach this in a civilized and mature way.

Originally posted by Starhawk
And yet you debated for 3 pages abotu somehting you care nothing about? Actions speak louder then words. Your taking this way to seriously.

In any event we agree theres no clear awnser and thats whats important, glad we could come together and reach this in a civilized and mature way.

and home many times/nevermind did I say forget about it in this thread? How you continually claimed things I never claimed. Ghost Rider has never easily escaped Hell even in the past, he's always needed help from angels, demons or even Lucifer.

and that's what I said pg.1 on, that we dont know the answers.