Originally posted by Galan007
Mxy's claim alone wasn't enough for me to even once think that the story he told Supes about Ultimator was even real. It more then likely way a ruse to make Supes think he was a hero.
Mxy has never been shown to lie in comics unless for the purpose of the gag. He has always been held to telling the truth. That is a basic fundemental part of his character.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirlSo Mxy in ALL of his appearences has NEVER once exaggerated?
Mxy has never been shown to lie in comics unless for the purpose of the gag. He has always been held to telling the truth. That is a basic fundemental part of his character.
That's not really a question, becuase I know he has. IMO that's what Mxy was doing when he told Supes that story. He may not have been lying per say, but I think he was exaggerating to make himself look better in front of Supes.
Originally posted by Galan007
So Mxy in ALL of his appearences has NEVER once exaggerated?That's not really a question, becuase I know he has. IMO that's what Mxy was doing when he told Supes that story. He may not have been lying per say, but I think he was exaggerating to make himself look better in front of Supes.
Mxy is probably the most powerful being or one of in DC comics. I dont' see a need for him to lie to Superman. I think that all of his stories are so humor filled that we have to take it as face value. If we can't take the word of villians on panel str8 up, unless it's implied or stated that they were lying, then alot of feats or back story about villians wouldn't be able to stand up.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirlBut how many canonical comics are there that feature a character that exaggerates as much as Mxy, telling a story about what they did, without previous comics to back up that claim? Would you believe those comics?
Mxy is probably the most powerful being or one of in DC comics. I dont' see a need for him to lie to Superman. I think that all of his stories are so humor filled that we have to take it as face value. If we can't take the word of villians on panel str8 up, unless it's implied or stated that they were lying, then alot of feats or back story about villians wouldn't be able to stand up.
I'm not saying that Mxy is a lier, but he has exaggerated the truth to Supes before, because he wants Supes to think highly of him. IMO that's what was going on here.
Originally posted by Galan007
But how many canonical comics are there that feature a character that exaggerates as much as Mxy, telling a story about what they did, without previous comics to back up that claim? Would you believe those comics?I'm not saying that Mxy is a lier, but he has exaggerated the truth to Supes before, because he wants Supes to think highly of him. IMO that's what was going on here.
If he wanted Supers to think highly of him, why not just tell supers that he outright beat the Ultimator with his Omnipotent powers? He basically told Superman that the Ultimator Bitched him.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirlMaybe because he wanted Supes to think that he outwitted an opponent.... Who knows?
If he wanted Supers to think highly of him, why not just tell supers that he outright beat the Ultimator with his Omnipotent powers? He basically told Superman that the Ultimator Bitched him.
It's just hard to believe that particular comic was 100% factual, especially when Mxy himself is the one who was telling it.
Originally posted by Galan007
Maybe because he wanted Supes to think that he outwitted an opponent.... Who knows?It's just hard to believe that particular comic was 100% factual, especially when Mxy himself is the one who was telling it.
YEt, the entire New Year's Evil series was cannon. Every book from the series. What would make Mxy's non Factual and the others factual?
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirlThe fact that his own personal story was the only appearence of a 10d Imp. The fact that Mxy was the one telling the story (and he has been known to exaggerate the truth), the fact that an all-powerful being was beaten by placing him in a comic that Mxy (who is supposedly much weaker then Ultimator) made himself.
What would make Mxy's non Factual and the others factual?
Originally posted by Galan007
The fact that his own personal story was the only appearence of a 10d Imp. The fact that Mxy was the one telling the story (and he has been known to exaggerate the truth), the fact that an all-powerful being was beaten by placing him in a comic that Mxy (who is supposedly much weaker then Ultimator) made himself.
Mxy didn't actually beat the Ultimator. And many powerful beings have been contained. We also have to realize that DC makes rediculous cosmic beings all the time and let's them fall by the wayside never to be heard from again. Unless the comic is stated to be non cannon, it's cannon. Mxy has never been shown to lie. The times when he lied, it was part of his joke against Superman and he even stated that he lied.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirlMxy left before he would have had the chance to reveal a lie, because Supes acted like he was asleep. And since Mxy had no one to impress, he left.
Mxy didn't actually beat the Ultimator. And many powerful beings have been contained. We also have to realize that DC makes rediculous cosmic beings all the time and let's them fall by the wayside never to be heard from again. Unless the comic is stated to be non cannon, it's cannon. Mxy has never been shown to lie. The times when he lied, it was part of his joke against Superman and he even stated that he lied.
Supes even said "that works every time"
Which leads me to believe that Mxy is constantly telling over the top stories, to try and impress Supes.
Believe what you want, but I hardly believe that Mxy's personal story can be taken as fact.
Originally posted by Galan007
Mxy left before he would have had the chance to reveal a lie, because Supes acted like he was asleep. And since Mxy had no one to impress, he left.Supes even said "that works every time"
Which leads me to believe that Mxy is constantly telling over the top stories, to try and impress Supes.
Believe what you want, but I hardly believe that Mxy's personal story can be taken as fact.
Mxy has no reason to lie, Every Single other New Year's Evil book was cannon. Thus History backs up my summation. You are goign purely off of your own reasoning, I'm going off of the fact that all the books are cannon AND Mxy is never shown to be a liar. The Story even shows how his much vaunted power was nothing to the Ultimator. Mxy wouldn't lie about how his powers were as effective as throwing a rock at a tank. It's completely unfair to the character to just assume he's lying when there is no indication that he was. He may have been trying to impress supers with his story becuz it actually happened. Unless other wise stated, we have to take the comic at face value or we run the risk of subjecting every off panel fight, every back story, and every monologue to out own reasoning.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirlALL of that is your opinion as well. I am no more wrong saying that Mxy's word can't be taken as fact, then you saying it can be.
Mxy has no reason to lie, Every Single other New Year's Evil book was cannon. Thus History backs up my summation. You are goign purely off of your own reasoning, I'm going off of the fact that all the books are cannon AND Mxy is never shown to be a liar. The Story even shows how his much vaunted power was nothing to the Ultimator. Mxy wouldn't lie about how his powers were as effective as throwing a rock at a tank. It's completely unfair to the character to just assume he's lying when there is no indication that he was. He may have been trying to impress supers with his story becuz it actually happened. Unless other wise stated, we have to take the comic at face value or we run the risk of subjecting every off panel fight, every back story, and every monologue.
My logic is simply that Mxy has exaggerated situations in the past, and Superman even said that acting like you fell asleep while Mxy was talking works every time if you want him to shut up and go away.
This leads me to believe Mxy constantly tells whacky storys to Superman (who obviously cares less, because he knows how Mxy is).
Originally posted by Galan007
ALL of that is your opinion as well. I am no more wrong saying that Mxy's word [b]can't be taken as fact, then you saying it can be.My logic is simply that Mxy has exaggerated situations in the past, and Superman even said that acting like you fell asleep while Mxy was talking works every time if you want him to shut up and go away.
This leads me to believe Mxy constantly tells whacky storys to Superman (who obviously cares less, because he knows how Mxy is). [/B]
To a being of such vast power like mxy, If mxy told Superman he wiped out the DCu multiverse, When superman doesn't even know a multiverse existed, and then wiped out an alternate future and a universe called DCU animated, it would seem wacky to Superman as well. But it happened. Thus Mxy's stories would all seem wacky to a being as small as Superman is compared to Mxy. Given the Character's power lvl, History of NOT lying, and the fact that ALL the New Year's evil books are Cannon, My opinion is backed up by history and the fact that the book never said or even implied that the story wasn't true.