Magneto, Apocalypse, and Classic Juggernaut vs. Captain America, Iron Man, and Thor

Originally posted by masterbruce
Captain America is getting less credit than he deserves.

He is the leader of the Avengers for a reason. The guy's incredibly scrappy and has survived many situations that one of his abilities shouldn't be able to.

Captain America is obviously not an offensive threat, but he could serve as a great decoy to distract.

With his shield and his skills and experience, he will be able to keep the lumbering Juggernaut occupied for quite awhile.

So it would be Thor and IM versus Apoc and Mags.

Originally posted by Newjak
Unless Cain was serious and just decided to Thunderclap CA or stomp the ground so CA falls into a large hole. Don't get me wrong CA is scrappy but he still in reality contributes nothing I mean if Juggernaut doesn't want to bother with him then Cain isn't going to care if CA jumps all over him while he is going another direction.

true, but the way I see it Cain has no choice but to deal with Cap. IM and Thor can both fly so Cain can't do shit except toss cars at them. And if Cap constantly baits Cain by repeatdely chucking the shield into Cain's face Cain WILL turn his attention to Cap. Cap's shield can absorb a thunderclap and can probably dodge Cain for quite awhile.

Originally posted by masterbruce
Captain America is getting less credit than he deserves.

He is the leader of the Avengers for a reason. The guy's incredibly scrappy and has survived many situations that one of his abilities shouldn't be able to.

Captain America is obviously not an offensive threat, but he could serve as a great decoy to distract.

With his shield and his skills and experience, he will be able to keep the lumbering Juggernaut occupied for quite awhile.

So it would be Thor and IM versus Apoc and Mags.

Juggernaut can literally just sit there and be a distraction for Cap if he wanted to.

But that's beside the point. Juggernaut could hand either Tony or Thor their ass if they fought. However, Thor and Iron Man would probably just avoid Juggy. Eh.

Originally posted by masterbruce
true, but the way I see it Cain has no choice but to deal with Cap. IM and Thor can both fly so Cain can't do shit except toss cars at them. And if Cap constantly baits Cain by repeatdely chucking the shield into Cain's face Cain WILL turn his attention to Cap. Cap's shield can absorb a thunderclap and can probably dodge Cain for quite awhile.

A ground-pound will work quite nicely.

I just thought of a way for Cain to attack Thor and Iron Man. He could chuck Captain America at them at super-speed. That'd work pretty well.

Originally posted by Metalmanx
Juggernaut can literally just sit there and be a distraction for Cap if he wanted to.

But that's beside the point. Juggernaut could hand either Tony or Thor their ass if they fought. However, Thor and Iron Man would probably just avoid Juggy. Eh.

If Cap distracts Juggs, then he's being a great benefit to his team.

Thus, the weakest member of the Avengers will be occupying the most powerful member of the Villains.

I dont think Juggs can take out Caps unless they fight for a couple of days and Cap starts slowing down.

Originally posted by Metalmanx
A ground-pound will work quite nicely.

I just thought of a way for Cain to attack Thor and Iron Man. He could chuck Captain America at them at super-speed. That'd work pretty well.

A ground pound would never work. Cap will just jump as Jugg slams into the ground, suffering no effects.

As to your Capchucking plan, how will Jugs throw something he can never catch in the first place?

Originally posted by masterbruce
A ground pound would never work. Cap will just jump as Jugg slams into the ground, suffering no effects.

As to your Capchucking plan, how will Jugs throw something he can never catch in the first place?

Anyways Cain would more than likely be tossing cars and flagpoles at Thor and IM more than he would be after Cap.

Originally posted by Newjak
Cap is good at dodging but he isn't Spiderman and he is only peak human in everything Cain would catch him alot sooner then you think.

Anyways Cain would more than likely be tossing cars and flagpoles at Thor and IM more than he would be after Cap.

Exactly. And it's not like Juggernaut is slow. By no means is he slow.

Originally posted by Metalmanx
Exactly. And it's not like Juggernaut is slow. By no means is he slow.

he's not slow, but he is slower than Cap

What in hell do you honestly think that Cap will contribute besides being cannonfodder.

Juggernaut won't even pay him mind. Cap can bounce on his head for all he cares. He's gonna be more concerned with throwing a piece of a street block at Thor.

Cap's shield protecting him? Oops. Mags decided to take it for himself....

Originally posted by Draco69
What in hell do you honestly think that Cap will contribute besides being cannonfodder.

Juggernaut won't even pay him mind. Cap can bounce on his head for all he cares. He's gonna be more concerned with throwing a piece of a street block at Thor.

Cap's shield protecting him? Oops. Mags decided to take it for himself....

So Mag is focusin on taking Caps shield? that'll make it even easier for Thor to oneshot him with a godblast

Originally posted by masterbruce
So Mag is focusin on taking Caps shield? that'll make it even easier for Thor to oneshot him with a godblast

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comic_book

Go read them. 😐

Originally posted by Metalmanx
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comic_book

Go read them. 😐

great counterargument to my point!

Originally posted by masterbruce
great counterargument to my point!

I agree! 🙂

Originally posted by masterbruce
So Mag is focusin on taking Caps shield? that'll make it even easier for Thor to oneshot him with a godblast

Ya know, I know it's hard fo you to comprehend multitasking. But believe it or not, Magneto can do several things at once.

Or he can simply unleash a massive magnetic storm wrecking havoc to any metal objects in the vicinity. Like Cap's shield.

Mags is smart. He would know the value of Cap's shield (and how utterly defenseless he is without it)

And Mags wouldn't allow Thor the time to charge up a godblast.

This battle REALLY is Thor vs. Magneto, Juggernaut, and Apoc. His teammates can't do shit to any of them....

Originally posted by Draco69
Ya know, I know it's hard fo you to comprehend multitasking. But believe it or not, Magneto can do several things at once.

Or he can simply unleash a massive magnetic storm wrecking havoc to any metal objects in the vicinity. Like Cap's shield.

Mags is smart. He would know the value of Cap's shield (and how utterly defenseless he is without it)

And Mags wouldn't allow Thor the time to charge up a godblast.

This battle REALLY is Thor vs. Magneto, Juggernaut, and Apoc. His teammates can't do shit to any of them....

Captain America ISN'T utterly defenseless without his shield. And it doesn't surprise me at all that you think Iron Man is a non-factor here.

Originally posted by Innerhype
Captain America ISN'T utterly defenseless without his shield. And it doesn't surprise me at all that you think Iron Man is a non-factor here.

Against the trio he's facing? Absolutely. His shield is the only thing keeping his a$$ in the fight for more than a minute.

Iron Man can't do shit against Juggernaut. That's out.

Magneto is the worst possible foe he can take on.

The only one he can do any reputable damage against is Apoc....before he curbstomps him.

Originally posted by Metalmanx
Juggernaut can just stand there and be a staller for Cap actually. In fact, why would Juggy even waste his time on Cap? He would go after Thor. And, as history has shown on a few occassions, Juggernaut defeats Thor.

Cap is the weakest link. Good guys are pretty screwed here.

History has shown on a few occasions, that Thor has 2 wins against Juggs, and an upgraded Juggs has 1 win.

Weakest link is overating him. Cap is only a distraction in this fight, until someone touches him, then he is dead.

Originally posted by masterbruce
I dont think Juggs can take out Caps unless they fight for a couple of days and Cap starts slowing down.

Listen Cap is dead. point blank. I don't care who he is none of these guys he can take alone. He can at best dodge Juggy's punches and give his teammates time to take care of the other two but in the end. its Thor and IM alone against Juggy