Yoda vs. Darth Bane

Started by The Planet8 pages
I really feel bad for you because you have to resort to making shit up. I won't bother arguing with you considering the fact that I read the book and there's nothing remotely close to him defeating Kas'im in saber combat, but good try.

He as good as won the first duel, Kas'im even says 'you should have defeated me when you had the chance'.

LOL...He toyed with Dooku both times never wanting to kill him. If you read Dark Rendezvous you'd realize he always wanted to turn him back, but your ignorance is evident.

I go by what I saw in the movie, Dooku fought just as well as Yoda did.

And in the original script he did disarm Sidious, but Lucas wanted to make a completely stalemated fight, so it was a stalemate.

Original script isn't canon, moot point!

And you have absolutely no argument considering the fact that Yoda stalemated the most powerful Sith Lord ever.

By RotS? Sidious was far from the most powerful by RotS, don't be ridiculous.

Originally posted by The Planet
He as good as won the first duel, Kas'im even says 'you should have defeated me when you had the chance'.

That doesn't constitute victory, I'm glad you're having trouble interpreting reality.

I go by what I saw in the movie, Dooku fought just as well as Yoda did.

Good for you, but I go with the movie and novelization where Dooku ran from Yoda because he knew he couldn't win. If you read Dark Rendezvous(which you haven't), you know Dooku couldn't do a damn thing to Yoda on Vjun.

By RotS? Sidious was far from the most powerful by RotS, don't be ridiculous. [/B]

Read the NEC. Try again.

That doesn't constitute victory, I'm glad you're having trouble interpreting reality.

Well it constitutes superiority, in that particular scenario.

Good for you, but I go with the movie and novelization where Dooku ran from Yoda because he knew he couldn't win. If you read Dark Rendezvous(which you haven't), you know Dooku couldn't do a damn thing to Yoda on Vjun.

Dude, I think it's pretty obvious that you haven't read it either. You're most likely parroting what others have said. Prove me wrong, if you can!

Read the NEC. Try again.

The NEC is written from an in-universe perspective, so that line is nothing more than an opinion, from a nobody. Now Sidious by RotS clearly isn't the most powerful ever, there are plenty who are above him; Exar Kun, Marka Ragnos, Darth Bane, Darth Nihilus to name a few.

Originally posted by The Planet
Well it constitutes superiority, in that particular scenario.

Dude, I think it's pretty obvious that you haven't read it either. You're most likely parroting what others have said. Prove me wrong, if you can!

The NEC is written from an in-universe perspective, so that line is nothing more than an opinion, from a nobody. Now Sidious by RotS clearly isn't the most powerful ever, there are plenty who are above him; Exar Kun, Marka Ragnos, Darth Bane, Darth Nihilus to name a few.

Conclusion: Formulate your own arguments and stop copying the arguments of the EOD members. NEC isn't in universe considering its the Chronology for the EU and the movies. There's a reason everyone from EOD left. The truth is a hard pill to swallow.

OK...

Spoiler:
You're weird

To be quite frank: The essential guides are written as in-universe, but they do infact, apply without

Events, sure, but opinions? Sidious only becomes the most powerful by DE, his RotS form is weaker than quite a few other sith.

When he's in full Ataru mode, Yoda is easily capable of jumping over Count Dooku, who is a very tall man (six-foot-five). It is ridiculous to assume that he couldn't reach Bane's head, especially when he is swinging a lightsaber at it. Likewise, Yoda's small size will make him a harder target for Bane to hit.

Yes, Yoda was capable of jumping over Dooku's head but mostly he was striking at the middle/lower parts of his body. He only got near his head a couple of times and I think we can assume that it's alot harder for him to strike at Dooku's head than it was for him to ttrike at his body. Also, Bane knows that his head is a weak point and therefor will be extra careful when Yoda's by his head and try his hardest to keep Yoda away from it.
Oh, for....the weak spots are incredibly obvious, considering the uncovered head, the unarmored waist and joints....geez, just take a look..

Yes, Yoda will see his head, but Bane's clothes will cover up his joints and waist, so Yoda will have no way of knowing that they are weak points.

Even if Yoda knows about the weak points, to deny the advantage of the armour is complete bias. The advantage is huge, considerable, and considering that Bane is already incredible with a saber, I don't see anyone taking BotS down in a saber duel.

Originally posted by darthsith19
Yes, Yoda was capable of jumping over Dooku's head but mostly he was striking at the middle/lower parts of his body. He only got near his head a couple of times and I think we can assume that it's alot harder for him to strike at Dooku's head than it was for him to ttrike at his body. Also, Bane knows that his head is a weak point and therefor will be extra careful when Yoda's by his head and try his hardest to keep Yoda away from it.

So what? Yoda's already stronger than Bane. Force, much?
Bane was also liekly killed by Yoda if you don't know the current LFL talks.

Yes, Yoda will see his head, but Bane's clothes will cover up his joints and waist, so Yoda will have no way of knowing that they are weak points.

Bane wears pants after the orbalisk thing. That's it....his weak points are well exposed and the orbalisks are not infallible

So what? Yoda's already stronger than Bane. Force, much?
Bane was also liekly killed by Yoda if you don't know the current LFL talks.

So Yoda's slightly stronegr with the Force, whatever, what;s he gonna do, Force-Push Bane to death. And where does it say Yoda kills Bane?
Bane wears pants after the orbalisk thing. That's it....his weak points are well exposed and the orbalisks are not infallible

He wars more than just pants. I see no weak points exposed except his head.

Yoda is not stronger with the force, his only hope was saber combat, but with the orbalisk armour, Yoda has no hope in hell.

Oh, shut up, Planet.
And slightly stronger? Try 'stronger by a firm margin'....Yoda could simply force crush him as well.

And like I said: Pants. So he has a cloak. Like Yoda won't sense orbalisks with the force...for the FINAL *****ING TIME, THEY ARE FALLIBLE.

And on SW.com, it was revealed a young Yoda novel is being kicked about after the success of PoD with Bane against Yoda.

Let me put it in simple terms: Palpatine is confirmed as>Bane. Yoda equal or above Palpatine....hm.

Moreover, Yoda's the best saber fighter of the golden age of daber dueling. He has a massive advantage over Bane who's never faced someone like him. What's to stop Yoda from flinging the force wave at him? Or hurling him into the wall as breakneck speed?

Yoda defeats Bane, case closed

For once I do agree with lightsnake, there's nothing to suggest Bane is even Yoda's equal in saber or force abilities.

Yoda's never displayed stronger force power than Bane, his saber skills are overrated and the bs about Palpatine by TPM > Bane is false and made up. Also, where is it said that Yoda's age was the Golden Age of saber dueling? All I heard was that it was the Golden Age of the Jedi. Oh, and rumours mean jack in a debate.

Pulling a moon out of orbit is far above anything Yoda's done.

hahahaha. No. Sorry.
Dark Side Sourcebook plus Heritage of the Sith>You.

Oh, and Lucas is the one who confirmed PT= prime of the Jedi.

Oh, and when LFL announce they're considering it...that's more than a rumor.

Originally posted by The Planet
Yoda's never displayed stronger force power than Bane, his saber skills are overrated and the bs about Palpatine by TPM > Bane is false and made up. Also, where is it said that Yoda's age was the Golden Age of saber dueling? All I heard was that it was the Golden Age of the Jedi. Oh, and rumours mean jack in a debate.

Someone's never read any of the novels or anything relevant to continue debating. And last I checked, the Golden Age of the Jedi was the prime of saber fighting. Next time use your own arguments and stop copying EOD arguments, because those were defeated long ago.

Originally posted by Lightsnake
hahahaha. No. Sorry.
Dark Side Sourcebook

I have the DSSB, nothing of the sort is in there. Prove it, provide an exact quote and page number.

plus Heritage of the Sith>You.

I don't believe this, you've lied in the past. Provide a quote and scan of the article, otherwise I see no reason to believe it.

Oh, and Lucas is the one who confirmed PT= prime of the Jedi.

In comparison to the OT, yes. Please, the PT Jedi Order is as peaceful as it gets, the BoD is as martial an order there is, it makes much more sense that the BoD would produce better saber duelists.

Oh, and when LFL announce they're considering it...that's more than a rumor.

Prove that Yoda does actually beat Bane. Until you can, you have no case.

Someone's never read any of the novels or anything relevant to continue debating.

How about you get off Lightsnake's butt, and be your own person.

And last I checked, the Golden Age of the Jedi was the prime of saber fighting.

Golden Age of the Jedi would speak for peace, not fighting prowess, that much is obvious.

Next time use your own arguments and stop copying EOD arguments, because those were defeated long ago.

Coming from you? Please, the moment you actually come up with something original, then you can talk that shit. I am one of the few people on this forum who actually comes up with original arguments, so please stfu.

1. College, remmeber? And it calls Palpa the strongest of Bane's order and in over a tousand years. Nice try, though.

2. It calls Palpatine the pinnacle of thousands of years to power and ritual.

3. Wow, you're either stupid, or in denial. Prime of the Jedi= Prime of the Jedi.

4. Can't prove Yoda's victory yet, but if/when his book comes out, it'll fun to see your face