Spider-Man VS. The Thundercats : HOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Originally posted by Metalmanx
Okay.

If you had been reading the previous posts that Capt and I made, he argued that Wolverine hardly ever bleeds from blunt trauma due to his "superhuman" durability (note: NOT healing factor). I've shown him two instances now where he has in fact bled from the impact of blunt trauma. The healing factor works to stop said bleeding and heal the wound. It doesn't prevent damage from being done in the first place.

The second picture is another piece of evidene against Wolverine's durability. Capt always says that Wolvie's bones (even his regular, non-adamantium ones) are much stronger and more durable than normal bones. Yet a quick kick by Deadpool, and Wolverine's leg snaps. And yes, I know it healed, and probably pretty quickly. But that's not the point. I was trying to get my point across that Wolverine's "durability" is based mostly on his healing factor.

Please read the previous posts next time.

Spider-Man is more durable. Wolverine is more RESILIENT.

I DID read the previous posts, and it looks to me like you have your facts wrong.

Ehem:

Originally posted by Metalmanx
...Spidey has superhuman durability. Argue it all you want, it's the truth.

Originally posted by Metalmanx
...do you see all the punishment Spidey takes? 90% of the time, even some super strong blows don't leave scratches or cut marks on his person. Hell, he's hardly even ever bruised.

Hell. Spider-Man is more DURABLE than Wolverine...

Originally posted by Metalmanx
My point is, sufficient blunt trauma can (and usually does) cause breakage of the skin and bruising, both of which Spidey hardly ever shows, even against opponents who severely outclass him in strength.

Spider-Man is more durable.

WHO was irrationally defending their guy's durability?

Now, let's see what capt has to say:

Originally posted by capt it up
No, but the fact is artist do not think of things like how they really are. You do not think when a person get punch they will get cut so that is why the artist do not put it in at times. Hell DD hardly ever gets scratches either when punched same with most every character.

Same with every other character.

Not true. Spiderman is list in no cannon sources to have beyond human durability. Logan how ever is. Also really spiderman has no feat of durability greater then logan.

Know what? I looks like your criticizing capt for supposedly doing for Wolverine EXACTLY what you're doing for Spider-Man. You like posting definitions? Try posting one for "hypocrite".

Know what else? capt is right. The reason Spider-man doesn't show much damage is because blood and gore and broken bones don't make a good family comic. That is why almost every other hero doesn't show much damage either. You want fighting with realistic results? Read Sin City. You want fake fighting where the hero still looks great after getting his ass handed to him? Read 90% of most of the comics on the stand. Spider-Man is no more durable than the hero on the cover two comics over. The reason why Wolverine bleeds more than Spider-Man is because Wolverine's readers expect to see that kind of stuff and Spider-Man markets largely to children.

As capt said, it hasn't been stated ANYWHERE that Spider-Man has enhanced durability. The Thundercats could hurt him if they hit him. They CAN hit him. Unless you're going to tell me the Thundercats aren't as agile as the Green Goblin, Kingpin, Tombstone, Vulture, or Vermin. I still don't understand what point about you were trying to prove about Spider-Man's durability by showing Wolverine get hurt when he's severly de-powered. Maybe you can talk down to me again and explain your point.

Originally posted by Sam Z
Um... I don't care about the thread, but I wanna point out something.
Spider-man DOES have superhuman durability, that allows him to take some class 100 punches without being KOed or killed.

You telling me that Spider-Man can take a Hulk punch directly to the head without having to going pick it back up after it hits the ground two states over? Sorry, I don't buy it. People with strength far lower than class 100 has knocked him out. People with strength far lower than class 100 have knocked Wolverine out as well, and unlike Spider-Man, Wolverine probably could survive a Hulk punch to the face.

Originally posted by Sabretooth
You telling me that Spider-Man can take a Hulk punch directly to the head without having to going pick it back up after it hits the ground two states over? Sorry, I don't buy it. People with strength far lower than class 100 has knocked him out. People with strength far lower than class 100 have knocked Wolverine out as well, and unlike Spider-Man, Wolverine probably could survive a Hulk punch to the face.

Originally posted by Badabing
Spidey still has his head doesn't he? 😕

Would you pay money just to read about a headless body lying there month after month? Me either. THAT is why Spider-Man still has his head. It just proves my earlier point about the more family-oriented comics not being as realistic about combat effects.

how did this topic degrade into another spider-man vs wolverine? this really is getting old now

Originally posted by Sabretooth
Would you pay money just to read about a headless body lying there month after month? Me either. THAT is why Spider-Man still has his head. It just proves my earlier point about the more family-oriented comics not being as realistic about combat effects.

Back to topic...that Cats win this one handily.

I see it like this Spidey has fought Sin6 who may not be in his class like the thundercat but,....seriously weve seen Petey walk away from worst *and it even isnt PIS more than half the time* He'll play them them against e.o/ whos to say webbing will or wont help+Spidey's scence.

Originally posted by Sabretooth
You telling me that Spider-Man can take a Hulk punch directly to the head without having to going pick it back up after it hits the ground two states over? Sorry, I don't buy it. People with strength far lower than class 100 has knocked him out. People with strength far lower than class 100 have knocked Wolverine out as well, and unlike Spider-Man, Wolverine probably could survive a Hulk punch to the face.

Yeah, that's why he took punches from Juggernaut without being koed and was hit by Hulk more than on one ocasion. Believe it or not, it's a fact.

I'll go with Spidey. The T-Cats could potentially bag him, but frankly, they're used to fighting chumps.

did I aslo forget to mention tigra is a Psychic meaning spiderman can get a little mind raped.

Originally posted by capt it up
did I aslo forget to mention tigra is a Psychic meaning spiderman can get a little mind raped.

Good point...... 😉

Originally posted by Sam Z
Yeah, that's why he took punches from Juggernaut without being koed and was hit by Hulk more than on one ocasion. Believe it or not, it's a fact.

No. The reason he can take punches from guys like Juggernaut and Hulk has nothing to do with any enhanced durability possessed by Spider-Man. The Hulk has strength enough to kill Spider-Man and most of the other characters on Marvel Earth in a fight containing no Plot Induced Stupidity necessary to keep characters alive so they can continue to sell more comics. Even I can admit that and I can't stand the Hulk. The reason Spidy and just about every other hero can take insane amounts of abuse and be just fine by the next issue is because comic companies generally don't like killing off their star characters, so they write unrealistic battles with happy endings. Do you think Spider-Man would be able to take as mush damage as he can in the Marvel universe if Frank Miller got a hold of him? Sin City takes place in a grittier universe aimed at sales to adults with more graphic and realistic effects of battle. If Frank Miller got permission to use Spidy at his current power level in his comic, I guarantee you would see him get bruised, cut, broken bones, the works.

I have seen Spider-Man hurt on several occasions by much less force than some of the Thundercats are able to generate with their bare hands, not to mention the weapons they possess. For every time Spidy urvives a hit by the Hulk, there are twice as many times guys with a far lower strength level (Sandman, the many Goblins, Venom, the Vulture, Kraven) that have hurt him. Kraven has beat the HELL out of him, so maybe you can tell me how the same guy who walks away from Hulk punches gets his ass handed to him by Kraven? Three little letters: CIS

Originally posted by Sabretooth
No. The reason he can take punches from guys like Juggernaut and Hulk has nothing to do with any enhanced durability possessed by Spider-Man. The Hulk has strength enough to kill Spider-Man and most of the other characters on Marvel Earth in a fight containing no Plot Induced Stupidity necessary to keep characters alive so they can continue to sell more comics. Even I can admit that and I can't stand the Hulk. The reason Spidy and just about every other hero can take insane amounts of abuse and be just fine by the next issue is because comic companies generally don't like killing off their star characters, so they write unrealistic battles with happy endings. Do you think Spider-Man would be able to take as mush damage as he can in the Marvel universe if Frank Miller got a hold of him? Sin City takes place in a grittier universe aimed at sales to adults with more graphic and realistic effects of battle. If Frank Miller got permission to use Spidy at his current power level in his comic, I guarantee you would see him get bruised, cut, broken bones, the works.

I have seen Spider-Man hurt on several occasions by much less force than some of the Thundercats are able to generate with their bare hands, not to mention the weapons they possess. For every time Spidy urvives a hit by the Hulk, there are twice as many times guys with a far lower strength level (Sandman, the many Goblins, Venom, the Vulture, Kraven) that have hurt him. Kraven has beat the HELL out of him, so maybe you can tell me how the same guy who walks away from Hulk punches gets his ass handed to him by Kraven? Three little letters: CIS

Correction. Spider-man taking punches from enraged and pissed Hulk is CIS. Spider-man taking punches from Hulk that can only lift 100 tons isn't. You give few examples of him being hurt by a weaker character. Well, how about him taking multiple attacks from the Rhino as a teenager. I know Rhino is a loser, but he is a class 80 loser with class 80 punches. All these fights against class 100 characters and great durability feats you call PIS or CIS only because he was hurt by Daredevil's or Kraven's punches before? Oh and by the way, Sandman is a class 80-90 character. As i said before, Spider-man has SUPERHUMAN durability, and I can easilly prove that with dozens feats.
By the way, even Green Goblin was able to take Hulk's punch before and wasn't even knocked out. What? This example is also only for the sake of writing and only because nobody wanted to see GG dead? I don't think so.