Darth Bane vs. Exar Kun

since when a shield can block a amulet blast? and who the f*uck ever said bane could move faster than the eye can see?
And better knowledge of the force? i dont think so, Kun could create the globe which drained massassi children to make his powers far even stronger. And lets not forget that he killed a jedi as a spirit and doesnt spirits weaken after tine? even kevin J anderson noted that exar kun is more powerful that ragnos

And by the way bane killed kasim when he crushed the temple, he did not and could not kill kasim,

"But to address the actual point: does this somehow mean that it won't have an effect? We've seen the blasts manifest themselves tangibly as energy, we've also seen those very same blasts (from Kun) utterly demolish everything they've came into contact with. From a Sith Wyrm, to solid temple rock, and even disintegrate Massassi (who are force users; even if primitive)." from advent

Since hwen has that damn blast been used to ANY great extent?

and I'm sorry, was ever said to move with above average speed at all?

And Bane gave the best saber fighter alive a huge fight. And oh, my! Exar stronger than an unknown, big deal.

BTW, so many blatant falsehoodds in that statement.

Well that blast destroyed parts of the temple, obilerated everything in its path and ask yourself, was there a large threat enough for exar to use his amulet on? Its the same thing when i asked you, why didnt palpatine used spear of midnight black, and you gave the same answer

Sure: The Jedi at the end.

Thousands of them? in warships? in the sky?

Originally posted by Lightsnake
Since hwen has that damn blast been used to ANY great extent?

and I'm sorry, was ever said to move with above average speed at all?

And Bane gave the best saber fighter alive a huge fight. And oh, my! Exar stronger than an unknown, big deal.

BTW, so many blatant falsehoodds in that statement.

Lightsnake, do you completely lose your ability to debate when it becomes evident you hate a character? Try being objective for once because you sound like an immature child with posts like that one.

And in any manner, Bane gave the best lightsaber fighter a huge fight because he KNEW all of his moves backwards and forwards. Forgot that one conveniently did you? Think Obiwan and Anakin. I also find it funny when you call Kas'im the best lightsaber duelist when it pertains to the likes of Exar Kun, or anybody else you don't like. When there's an argument with Yoda, or Mace, or anyone from the PT, Kas'im is somehow NOT the best duelist.. Interesting lightsnake, I think you put forth way too much of your time into this.

Oh, right....and Exar was described as a master swordsman only? how does this put him of Kas'im? At least Mace and Yoda have things going for them.
The PT was also the top age of saber fighting, in case you've forgotten.

Oh, and Exar wasn't alone on Yavin: There was him, the Brotherhood and the Krath, the Massassi race-millions- and Kun's alchemical creations, inluding Terentateks where one alone could take several Jedi to defeat

Originally posted by Lightsnake
Oh, right....and Exar was described as a master swordsman only? how does this put him of Kas'im? At least Mace and Yoda have things going for them.
The PT was also the top age of saber fighting, in case you've forgotten.

Oh, and Exar wasn't alone on Yavin: There was him, the Brotherhood and the Krath, the Massassi race-millions- and Kun's alchemical creations, inluding Terentateks where one alone could take several Jedi to defeat

Uh... Ok?

The latter part of that was to Kadesh.
And is Kun not the subject as hand?

I can't see Bane winning this. I don't know how strong he is in BOTS, but as of his peak in PoD, he's not as strong as Exar in my opinion. He's most impressive feat is destroying the Temple on Lehon, which isn't very large according to the dimensions given in PoD. Destroying the Temple took him an extended period of time to build up enough Force energy and left him exausted afterwards. He's just not strong enough to down Exar.

Yeah, we know, Exar is godly, exar owns, Exar rules....
Oh, and when did it take a long time to build up the enery? He did it in the time it took Kas'im to say two sentences. What's Exar done? Oh, lord! He fired a blast!

I can't see Bane winning this. I don't know how strong he is in BOTS, but as of his peak in PoD, he's not as strong as Exar in my opinion. He's just not strong enough to down Exar.

I agree, but by BotS, he definitely is. He pulls a fricking moon out of orbit.

He's most impressive feat is destroying the Temple on Lehon, which isn't very large according to the dimensions given in PoD.[/quote

Well only a portion of the attack actually affected the temple, most of it was directed at Kas'im. And the temple was described as 20 stories high IIRC, that's pretty high.

[quote]Destroying the Temple took him an extended period of time to build up enough Force energy

Only about 20 seconds.

and left him exausted afterwards.

His epic duel with Kas'im played a part in that too.

Originally posted by Lightsnake
Yeah, we know, Exar is godly, exar owns, Exar rules....
Oh, and when did it take a long time to build up the enery? He did it in the time it took Kas'im to say two sentences. What's Exar done? Oh, lord! He fired a blast!

In a fight, three seconds is a long time. Dooku took out Obi-wan in less than 20 seconds in ROTS. Those sentences took, what, probably 10 or 12 seconds to say at least. That's almost half as long as the entire ROTS fight I just described. He won't even get close to that amount of time to build up energy.

I agree, but by BotS, he definitely is. He pulls a fricking moon out of orbit.

May I ask what moon?

Well only a portion of the attack actually affected the temple, most of it was directed at Kas'im. And the temple was described as 20 stories high IIRC, that's pretty high.

PoD states that it's "slightly under 20 meters tall" that's not very large. The Massassi Temples, for instance, are easily twice that.

Only about 20 seconds.

That's longer than it took Dooku to defeat Obi-wan. He won't get half that long before an amulet blast kills him.

His epic duel with Kas'im played a part in that too.

It had some effect, yes, but the majority of the exhaustion seems to have come from his final force attack.

May I ask what moon?

Dxun, IIRC.

PoD states that it's "slightly under 20 meters tall" that's not very large. The Massassi Temples, for instance, are easily twice that.

Oops, mixed up 'meters' and 'stories'.

That's longer than it took Dooku to defeat Obi-wan. He won't get half that long before an amulet blast kills him.

Yes, but it may have only taken him that long because he was fatigued from his duel with Kas'im, and pretty beat.

Dxun, IIRC.

Why did he move the moon?

Oops, mixed up 'meters' and 'stories'.

No problem.

Yes, but it may have only taken him that long because he was fatigued from his duel with Kas'im, and pretty beat.

It may have contributed to the time, but even if it were half as long as you claim he would still never get a chance to pull something like that off.

Originally posted by Lightsnake
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Oh, and Exar wasn't alone on Yavin: There was him, the Brotherhood and the Krath, the Massassi race-millions- and Kun's alchemical creations, inluding Terentateks where one alone could take several Jedi to defeat

Originally posted by Kadesh
wrong, it was just wxar kun and the massasi alone where the massassi do not have weapons and need i not point out the jedis were in warships to bombard the entire planet?

False: Kun's alchemical creations remained there till Yavin's cleansing.
And it's confirmed the Krath, Massassi and Brotherhood were there....the Brotherhood witnessed Kun's defeat on Yavin before later fleeing, where most died at the last battle of Empress Teta

Did i forget to say that they are bombarding the planet? And that they did not set foot on the ground?

They were doing nothing of the sort at any point during that

But they were going to werent they? Why do you think they came in ships? it could be because he had the massassi army, but jedis can kill them easy, or they know that they cannot defeat him on a 1v1 match, Thats my opinion so dont bash me for that