Darth Bane vs. Exar Kun

Started by kamhal4 pages

"It was stated that Kun was a lightsaber prodigy. He had no equal during his life."

Ulic Quel-Droma rings a bell? I am not saying he was not good but when he fought Quel-Droma, before Ragnos showed up, the narrator said they were even.

My opinion, i think none of them have the advantage, they are pretty much equal to me...

Also, sorry to insist on this but, when it was stated exar kun>ragnos?

LOL, you see Sexy, even others are seeing flaws in your argument.

Originally posted by kamhal
"It was stated that Kun was a lightsaber prodigy. He had no equal during his life."

Ulic Quel-Droma rings a bell? I am not saying he was not good but when he fought Quel-Droma, before Ragnos showed up, the narrator said they were even.


He was not his equal at Exar Kun's peak. Which was when he developed his double blade.
Also, sorry to insist on this but, when it was stated exar kun>ragnos? [/B]

No, when was that nonsense stated? Exar Kun is nowhere near Ragnos

He was not his equal at Exar Kun's peak. Which was when he developed his double blade.

Proof? Logic would dictate that he would be at his peak when using the weapon and style he had been using for his entire life, like when against Ulic. The only reason his new staff and style would be more effective against Vodo is because Vodo had never been up against a saber staff before, that's why he used the staff against him, not because he was better with the staff.

Originally posted by Captain Planet
Proof? Logic would dictate that he would be at his peak when using the weapon and style he had been using for his entire life, like when against Ulic. The only reason his new staff and style would be more effective against Vodo is because Vodo had never been up against a saber staff before, that's why he used the staff against him, not because he was better with the staff.

Uh he beat Vodo with the normal fighting style and the double bladed style, what is your point? And no, a peak would be when he knows a form he's spent his whole life practicing+his new found knowledge of a new form that Ulic wouldn't be able to fight. Hence the advantage.

My point is, while Kun was far more deadly against Vodo with his saber staff and new style, this is more a testament to the fact that the new saber and style was completely unfamiliar to Vodo, not because he was better with his new style, because logic dictates that he would be far better with a saber and style that he had been training with for his whole life.

Originally posted by kamhal

Also, sorry to insist on this but, when it was stated exar kun>ragnos?

Kevin J anderson stated that

Originally posted by Kadesh
Kevin J anderson stated that

No, he didn't.

Originally posted by Darth Sexy
No, he didn't.

He said that, in his opinion, the title of "most powerful Sith Lord" would be determined if Exar and Palpatine ever fought.

Originally posted by Gideon
He said that, in his opinion, the title of "most powerful Sith Lord" would be determined if Exar and Palpatine ever fought.

Does it include the ancient sith? There are so many problems with that statement. It would be illogical for him to put Exar Kun above Marka Ragnos. And it would certainly kind of dispute the statement about Sidious being the most powerful sith ever. That is a specific question I asked him a month ago, I'm still awaiting an answer.

Originally posted by Darth Sexy
It would be illogical for him to put Exar Kun above Marka Ragnos.

What makes it so far fetched to assume? Expand on what you mean, if you will. I'm not necessarily disagreeing, just wondering.

Originally posted by Advent
What makes it so far fetched to assume? Expand on what you mean, if you will. I'm not necessarily disagreeing, just wondering.

Marka Ragnos was the most powerful of the most powerful of the ancient sith, the apex of sith knowledge and power. Now Exar Kun learned not even a fraction of that power, whereas Sidious learned everything from that power and more, so it's very illogical to compare Exar Kun to Ragnos. VERY.

1. They are even in force power. Bane is more aware of his surroundings, but Kun has much more raw power, which is amplified by the Amulet.

2. Exar Kun seems to have alot more mobility and confidence in victory than Bane does, and I can see Bane getting fatigued and losing.

3. Kun wins, if only barely.

Originally posted by Darth_Glentract
Why did he move the moon?

So he could bring Dxun and Onderon close enough so that he could fly on top of a beast from one to the other.

It may have contributed to the time, but even if it were half as long as you claim he would still never get a chance to pull something like that off.

Most definitely not, but it still speaks loads for his raw power.

well that would be telekenesis at work, but didnt yoda mention "size matters not, the only difference is in your mind"?

Originally posted by Kadesh
well that would be telekinesis at work, but didnt yoda mention "size matters not, the only difference is in your mind"?

Whatever your point is, and whatever the lesson behind Yoda's words was, it requires more power to lift a heavier object via telekinesis than it does to lift a lighter one.

That according to yoda is in only in your mind, And he proved this is TESB. Thats how Luke took down an entire ATAT, because he remembered the words of master yoda according to the DE comic

By the way is there any proof that bane did really push dxun closer to onderon? Because wookie only said he planned to, and acstyles kept mentioning that there was nothing to prove that he did.

Captain planet if its ok you provide the quote, then we can confirm that its true he pushed a moon out of orbit

If size didn't matter, then if I picked up a small rock that is barley an inch tall, and tossed it, Yoda is going to have as much difficult as lifting the thing that almost fell on Obi-Wan and Anakin in AOTC.
It was just to remove Luke's doubt, that's all. There is absolutley nothing that indicates that every jedi's force power has no bounds, because they have, or else we would see the scattered jedi of the universe tossing around planets and the death star!

Hmm got a point there