Lucifer with Michael's power vs. Thanos with THOU

Originally posted by Mr Master
Sure, because Parallax flat out says,

"maybe ONE Universe, ONE World won't be enough"

In all fairness it is never said how much he actually destroyed. All that was said is that he destroyed all of existance.

The one universe/world statment dosen't mean much unless we are arguing about what Parallax was going to re-create.

Originally posted by Mr Master
And yet, you yourself pointed out it was also called "THIS REALITY"

Check this out:

Rune is of the Ultraverse, the Ultraverse is a Universe within a separate Multi-verse.
When Rune entered the 616 Multi-verse he acquired the Infinity Gems and formed the Infinity Gauntlet with the help of the Soul Gem.

The Soul Gem says,

"I have been waiting for this creature since the DAWN of the Universe" (because it knows Rune is from ANOTHER Multi-verse, and the Living Tribunal's Judgement was ONLY enforced on beings of the 616 Multi-verse)

The Soul Gem tells Rune,
As you said: "you will be worshipped through out the Sprawl of the MULTI-VERSE.

"you will be worshipped through out the Sprawl of the MULTI-VERSE, Feasting on the Multitudes of TWO REALITIES" (this Multi-verse (616) and Rune's Multi-verse)

Interesting, TWO Multi-verses are being referred to as TWO REALITIES.

The Infinity Gauntlet is formed

The Living Tribunal becomes aware of this,

"There is a disturbance in the Fabric of Reality, which centers around the Infinity Gems"

Yet, it is UNLIKE Anything that I have Experienced, the NATURE of the disturbance is BEYOND THIS REALITY ..... I must ask HIM for Help"

Interesting, the Living Tribunal is calling the Multi-verse "THIS REALITY"

Multi-verse = a couple of universes.
2 universes = A Multi-verse

The rune-universe and the 616-universe is together a Multi-verse.

What the hell did you get 616-Multiverse from? -- FFS 616 = A universe ... You mess them up ... Hear how stupid that sounds: The 616th universe in the 616th Multi-verse ...

Those two universes are wo realities ...

Originally posted by Galan007
But Mr. M, at this point in the story, Parallax had already destroyed everything, and he was talking about what he is going to re-create in order to protect, and thats when he referred to one universe and one world.....

In all fairness it is never said how much he actually destroyed. All that was said is that he destroyed all of existance.

The one universe/world statment dosen't mean much unless we are arguing about what Parallax was going to re-create.

When he says,

("a Re-Made Universe"😉 ... "my Universe"

he's saying he's going to remake a Universe,

you can't remake something that wasn't already, so he's clearly talking about what he destroyed, a Universe.

and it will be his Universe remade the way he wants.

Originally posted by Mr Master
When he says,

("a Re-Made Universe"😉 ... "my Universe"

he's saying he's going to remake a Universe,

you can't remake something that wasn't already, so he's clearly talking about what he destroyed, a Universe.

and it will be his Universe remade the way he wants.

Now your extrapolating. He says he destroyed all of reality. And He the part about alternate realities seeping in and out of existance just seem to go under your radar for some reason. He destroyed the Multiverse, but he only wanted one universe. Now aren't you the one who says that many times, Universe on panel, is actually multi-verse. But I don't remember in zero hour it ever saying he destroyed One Universe. It always talked about All of Reality.

Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
"you will be worshipped through out the Sprawl of the MULTI-VERSE ... Feasting on the Multitudes of TWO REALITIES" (this [B]Universe (616) and Rune's Universe )

Multi-verse = a couple of universes.
2 universes = A Multi-verse

The rune-universe and the 616-universe is together a Multi-verse.

What the hell did you get 616-Multiverse from? -- FFS 616 = A universe ... You mess them up ... Hear how stupid that sounds: The 616th universe in the 616th Multi-verse ...

Those two universes are wo realities ... [/B]

Dude,
you losing me.

616 Multi-verse simply means the Multi-verse that houses the 616 Universe.

To differentiate it from the countless other Multi-verses in the Omni-verse.

And by the way, the Rune Universe is the Ultraverse, and the Ultraverse is in a Multi-verse OUTSIDE the 616 Multi-verse. A different Multi-verse.

SO the scan is talking about Rune's Multi-verse, because he clearly told Rune

"you will be worshipped through out the Sprawl of the MULTI-VERSE ... Feasting on the Multitudes of TWO REALITIES"

The Gems say,

"reveal the nature of your hate".... "UltraHumans" (from the Ultraverse).

" We must transport ourselves BACK to your REALITY"

The Gem wanted to go back to Runes Multi-verse and take over that, then from there, away from the Tribunal's Judgement, take over this Multi-verse too.

Rune was able to form the Infinity Gauntlet because he's from a different Multi-verse, remember this is well into the Living Tribunal's decree.

"I have plucked you from the Frozen Time Stream to PREVENT this creature from defying my decree, that the Gems NEVER be used as One" (but Rune is NOT of the 616 Multi-verse)

And the Living Tribunal has a strict code of ethics, LT is so big time that he operates within a certain guideline.

Surfer says,

"I know it is IN your Power to STOP this creature, so I suggest you do so yourself"

LT says,

"For this SELF to ACT, ALL THREE FACES MUST AGREE ... the Choice is yours, Surfer, BUT the JUDGEMENT, as ALWAYS, is MINE"

This, plus the fact the Infinity Being was formed during the Avengers/Ultraverse arc with the the Seven Infinity Gems, let's us know that LT's Judgement is only Law in the Multi-verse that houses the 616 Universe. (which is the 616 Multi-verse)

And apparently he can't can't even get involved.

I mean Rune actually formed the Gauntlet:

This is after the Living Tribunal, that no one could form the IG, so it seems to be imposed on the Prime Multi-verse only.

Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
Single Eternity, Infinity and the Living Tribunal (M-body) -- Or perhaps Thanos was greater than the Living Tribunal just limited to the 616 universe.

Why then Thanos said to remove also others threats, while he already removed threats from one universe (no LT anymore).
Than he destroyed all realities in one Multiverse, so he competlely destroyed LT.

Like Thanos said "For IF this BAND Could Defy Me...might not OTHERS be equally Foolish?".
I think it's pretty clear he reffered to Multiverse, to more realites, to more Universes, for those threats, but there were no more LT and others.
I mean he destroyed all in one universe and then he said other threats, so that cannot be from the same universe he destroyed all entites, right. It must be from other unvierses, isn't it loggical, but you are stubborn and always reffers to (nothing mentioned in the scan while Mr. Master proved also that many times even Multiverse was mentioned as a this reality).

He didn't kill all entities. Just all the hero's and abstracts.

Originally posted by King Kandy
He didn't kill all entities. Just all the hero's and abstracts.

And in the end THEY were the band that threatened his reign.

What I mean was that back when he was whining about "Others who might threaten his reign, he had only absorbed heroes and abstracts.

Originally posted by King Kandy
What I mean was that back when he was whining about "Others who might threaten his reign, he had only absorbed heroes and abstracts.

Obviously there was some limits to The power that Thanos wielded. Why else was he not able to kill death? The Beyonder was able to. But then again, the beyonder had limits too.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Obviously there was some limits to The power that Thanos wielded. Why else was he not able to kill death? The Beyonder was able to. But then again, the beyonder had limits too.

Then Death, and wralock, who weren't in it, came in.

And thanos could now destroy them as well.

He just never tried.

Originally posted by King Kandy
Thanos absorbed everything inside his blue bubble.

Then Death, and wralock, who weren't in it, came in.

And thanos could now destroy them as well.

He just never tried.

There were limits to his power. He could only absorb what was in his bubble.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
There were limits to his power.

Originally posted by Galan007
Yes, TOAA unarguably limited Thanos' power.

And yet this limited power was able to beat the LT? HMMM. Michael's power is not limited is it?

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Michael's power is not limited is it?

But if he falls from God's graces (as he has before) the great majority of his power no longer exists because God dosen't wish it to exist.

Originally posted by Galan007
Well when Michael is in God's graces, he litterally IS God's power. If he needs to defeat an enemy, it WILL be done.

But if he falls from God's graces (as he has before) the great majority of his power no longer exists because God dosen't wish it to exist.

Seems like Michael and the Spectre have nearly the same restrictions. As long as they are fighting for what God wants, they are in tip top shape.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Seems like Michael and the Spectre have nearly the same restrictions. As long as they are fighting for what God wants, they are in tip top shape.

Michael>>Spectre (as has been shown before)

Originally posted by Galan007
Well Michael is ALL of God's power while Spectre is only God's Wrath...

Michael>>Spectre (as has been shown before)

Of course. Michael is to the Spectre as THOTU is to the LT.
Source(DCU)=Michael=THOTU>>Spectre=LT

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Of course. Michael is to the Spectre as THOTU is to the LT.
Source(DCU)=Michael=THOTU>>Spectre=LT

Originally posted by Galan007
Potentially.... As long as all of them were functioning at their best.

The source always functions at it's best. It stopped Hal jordan with ease from destroying Darkseid.