Lucifer with Michael's power vs. Thanos with THOU

Started by Mr Master8 pages
Originally posted by King Kandy
Right. But if he was acting purely by reason and self-defence, he would have realized that LT couldn't hurt him, and have just sat there.

I don't think that was ever possible of happening,

Thanos was going to act whether he liked it or not, that's what TOAA wanted:

"I acted without thought, as if my response was Preordained"

"the deviousness of my Predecessor, a facet of Another's grand plan"

"the Trap was obvious, and yet I stepped into it, ... I followed a course charted by Another's Hand"

"the master manipulator had been Tricked"

Originally posted by King Kandy
The heroes posed no threat to Beyonder-Doom, but they puled off a win. There's always a small shot.

Eternity, LT, or anyone else couldn't hurt him, and yet Captain America won against him.

Small probability.

Actually the Beyonder himself was the one that defeated Doom.

The Beyonder with the power he had left, took over Klaw's body and mind, and through him messed with Doom's mind.

The Beyonder, while inside of Klaw, even convinced Doom to give him back some of his power.

The reason why Doom couldn't kill Captain America was because the Beyonder (in Klaw) kept remaking him everytime Doom would vaporize him, this confused Doom even further, all the while Beyonder (in Klaw) was absorbing his power back everytime Doom used it, finally Beyonder took it all back.

So CA never defeated Beyonder Doom.

Which leaves us still in the World of no probability.

Originally posted by invisiblewoman
i think in just about any case where you debating both sides DC and marvel whether it be gods or charcters, etc. . . it always comes down to which side is better Marvel? or DC?

💃 I see a woman of wise words, you would think some people would get that by now but no you still get the few 🤪 Individuals making threads about godvsgod.

Originally posted by Mr Master
He might of been in a rage but he was clearly philosophizing while in the act, so he knew more than nothing.
Well Thanos was narrating the story the entire time, so I was under the impression that while Thanos was on his absorbing frenzy, he (as the narrator) was the one philosophizing:

You can clearly see that those are not normal text bubbles. Which means Thanos was either thinking those words, or the narrator (Thanos himself) was the one speaking from a 3rd person point of view.

Originally posted by Supreme being
💃 I see a woman of wise words, you would think some people would get that by now but no you still get the few 🤪 Individuals making threads about godvsgod.

its nice to know someone agrees 😄

Yet I see no scan's mentioning following:
"Multiverse"
"Multi-Eternity"
"Universe's"

None of those were mentioned in the entire series.

Single Eternity, Infinity and the Living Tribunal (M-body) -- Or perhaps Thanos was greater than the Living Tribunal just limited to the 616 universe.

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Originally posted by Galan007
Well Thanos was narrating the story the entire time, so I was under the impression that while Thanos was on his absorbing frenzy, he (as the narrator) was the one philosophizing:

You can clearly see that those are not normal text bubbles. Which means Thanos was either thinking those words, or the narrator (Thanos himself) was the one speaking from a 3rd person point of view.

That scan has nothing to do with what I was referring to.

That scan and the one below it, was how Thanos had no choice in the matter, and he was going to erase the Multi-verse whether he liked it or not.

TOAA's plan worked perfectly, as it should have.

And anyway it doesn't matter if Thanos was in a frenzy or not, the ultimate question still stands unanswered,

"For IF this BAND Could Defy Me...might not OTHERS be equally Foolish?"

"Could I ALLOW ANY to question my divine Authority?

"NO....So I CONTINUED to Absorb ALL that MIGHT Threaten my Reign...Until....

"Nothing Remained"

If Thanos only absorbed one Universe then:

1. WHO was Thanos worried about MIGHT THREATEN his Reign AFTER he absorbed Eternity/Infinity (single Universe) and the Living Tribunal?

2. WHO was Thanos referring to that might be EQUALLY foolish like Eternity/Infinity (single Universe) and the Living Tribunal AFTER he absorbed Eternity/Infinty & LT?

If not the rest of the Multi-verse, then who?

Originally posted by Mr Master
That scan has nothing to do with what I was referring to.

That scan and the one below it, was how Thanos had no choice in the matter, and he was going to erase the Multi-verse whether he liked it or not.

Gotcha...

As for the rest of your post....... Well I dont even want to get into it, thats for you and Thanos THOTU. 😉

Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
Yet I see no scan's mentioning following:
"Multiverse"
"Multi-Eternity"
"Universe's"

None of those were mentioned in the entire series.

And yet, you yourself pointed out it was also called "THIS REALITY"

Check this out:

Rune is of the Ultraverse, the Ultraverse is a Universe within a separate Multi-verse.
When Rune entered the 616 Multi-verse he acquired the Infinity Gems and formed the Infinity Gauntlet with the help of the Soul Gem.

The Soul Gem says,

"I have been waiting for this creature since the DAWN of the Universe" (because it knows Rune is from ANOTHER Multi-verse, and the Living Tribunal's Judgement was ONLY enforced on beings of the 616 Multi-verse)


The Soul Gem tells Rune,

"you will be worshipped through out the Sprawl of the MULTI-VERSE, Feasting on the Multitudes of TWO REALITIES" (this Multi-verse (616) and Rune's Multi-verse)

Interesting, TWO Multi-verses are being referred to as TWO REALITIES.

The Infinity Gauntlet is formed

The Living Tribunal becomes aware of this,

"There is a disturbance in the Fabric of Reality, which centers around the Infinity Gems"

Yet, it is UNLIKE Anything that I have Experienced, the NATURE of the disturbance is BEYOND THIS REALITY ..... I must ask HIM for Help"

Interesting, the Living Tribunal is calling the Multi-verse "THIS REALITY"

woah!

What comic are those scans from?

Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
Yet I see no scan's mentioning following:
"Multiverse"
"Multi-Eternity"
"Universe's"

None of those were mentioned in the entire series.

Many times before the Multi-verse has been referred to as "the Universe" or "Actuality" or "Reality" as I just proved.

"and where ONE ETERNITY would ensure a BOUNDLESS Universe, a MULTI-ETERNITY would ensure a BOUNDLESS MULTI-VERSE"

Same page:

"With in ALL Eternity, the UNIVERSE is a place of both Chaos and Order"

It was called "Multi-Eternity, a boundless Multi-verse".

Now it's "ALL Eternity, the Universe"

the term Universe is sometimes a dub for Multi-verse

Eternity in the END calling it "THIS ACTUALITY"

Thanos calling it both "THIS REALITY" and "THIS ACTUALITY"

"You & Gamora were OUTSIDE THIS REALITY, tending Atleza, this ACTUALITY'S Cosmic Anchor"

Originally posted by Mr Master
Many times before the Multi-verse has been referred to as "the Universe" or "Actuality" or "Reality" as I just proved.

"and where ONE ETERNITY would ensure a BOUNDLESS Universe, a MULTI-ETERNITY would ensure a BOUNDLESS MULTI-VERSE"

Same page:

"With in ALL Eternity, the UNIVERSE is a place of both Chaos and Order"

It was called "Multi-Eternity, a boundless Multi-verse".

Now it's "ALL Eternity, the Universe"

the term Universe is sometimes a dub for Multi-verse

Eternity in the END calling it "THIS ACTUALITY"

Thanos calling it both "THIS REALITY" and "THIS ACTUALITY"

"You & Gamora were OUTSIDE THIS REALITY, tending Atleza, this ACTUALITY'S Cosmic Anchor"

SO I have a question, how come your saying that many times the multiverse has been referred to as a universe or reality as the multiverse in trying to defend marvel characters, but when it's been brought up that Parrallax wiped out all of existance also refered to as reality and universe, somehow for him it doesn't count as multiversal? even tho we know for fact there were alternate realities zipping in and out of existance? Can you explain that to me buddy? HUH?

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
SO I have a question, how come your saying that many times the multiverse has been referred to as a universe or reality as the multiverse in trying to defend marvel characters, but when it's been brought up that Parrallax wiped out all of existance also refered to as reality and universe, somehow for him it doesn't count as multiversal? even tho we know for fact there were alternate realities zipping in and out of existance? Can you explain that to me buddy? HUH?

Sure, because Parallax flat out says,

"maybe ONE Universe, ONE World won't be enough"

Originally posted by Mr Master
Sure, because Parallax flat out say,

"will ONE Universe be enough"

But the Panels say Multiple REALITIES seeped in and out of existance. HMMM? was not parallax creating multiple realities and destroying them as easily with no effort or what?

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
But the Panels say Multiple REALITIES seeped in and out of existance. HMMM? was not parallax creating multiple realities and destroying them as easily with no effort or what?

Where are you reading that, in that scan?

In The END, not once is the phrase ONE Universe used, but Parallax clearly said ONE Universe.

Originally posted by Mr Master
Where are you reading that, in that scan?

In The END, not once is the phrase ONE Universe used, but Parallax clearly said ONE Universe.

NO, there is a scan that shows the spectre talking about Parallax, and he says that multiple realities were blinking in and out. Any way, parallax said maybe one universe won't be enough, but he is clearly indicating that he has the power to make more. Also, all this does is indicate that he was going to make just one universe. It doesn't indicate that all he destroyed was one. Since MULTIPLE realities seeped in and out of existance.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
NO, there is a scan that shows the spectre talking about Parallax, and he says that multiple realities were blinking in and out.

That was covered I believe with that being a side-effect, not a controlled ability.

Sort of like HOM Wanda's Chaos Wave, she caused it, but she had no control over it.

Because of this we can't say Wanda destroyed countless Universes as the Chaos Wave did, we also can't say Wanda is an Omniversal threat because the Choas Wave is.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Any way, parallax said maybe one universe won't be enough, but he is clearly indicating that he has the power to make more.

Or he could be indicating that's all he's capable of, and "perhaps it won't be enough"

Until Parallax demonstrates a greater feat, he's at ONE Universe destroyed.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Also, all this does is indicate that he was going to make just one universe. It doesn't indicate that all he destroyed was one. Since MULTIPLE realities seeped in and out of existance.

You keep saying "multiple realities" but the scan clearly point at ONE Universe.

The "multiple realities" point, Parallax had no control over that, and Spectre even says it's a byproduct of him messing with ONE Universe.

Originally posted by Mr Master
That was covered I believe with that being a side-effect, not a controlled ability.

Sort of like HOM Wanda's Chaos Wave, she caused it, but she had no control over it.

Because of this we can't say Wanda destroyed countless Universes as the Chaos Wave did, we also can't say Wanda is an Omniversal threat because the Choas Wave is.

Or he could be indicating that's all he's capable of, and "perhaps it won't be enough"

Until Parallax demonstrates a greater feat, he's at ONE Universe destroyed.

You keep saying "multiple realities" but the scan clearly point at ONE Universe.

The "multiple realities" point, Parallax had no control over that, and Spectre even says it's a byproduct of him messing with ONE Universe.

ACtually that is not what the Spectre says. He is talking about the power that Parallax had, but couldn't control.

Wrong scan

Originally posted by Galan007
Yep, I agree........ The one thing we can uncertainly say is that Thanos couldn't kill Lucifer /w/ this power, but then it just comes down to which God people think is greater... 🙄
then that makes this a pointless thread. it comes down to what god you think is greater dc or marvel? stupid shit.

ps. marvel's god is greater 😛 😄