Blind Spider-man vs Daredevil

Started by Alfheim8 pages

Originally posted by grey fox
No they dont.

Heres an example.
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The X's are gunshots , this around 1 second before their actually fired , thus he knows to go to the O

Whereas DD's allows him just gives him sonar which is this.

I see what you are saying but your logic doesnt work. I know you are saying that Spiderman gets warned one second before it happens, but why wouldnt radar sense do that as well? For example DD can hear somebodys heart beat and he can determine wether a person is going to attack him or not. Thats just one example due to the information that DD gets from his senses this can give him an early warning.

Spidermans pre-cog is just his senses bringing back information from his envinronment. DD's does the samething in a different way.

No DD's recieves sensory input which he then translates into warnings. Example: This guys heart rate is increasing, he's planning a feint

Spider-Man recieves warnings which he can interpret as sensory output
Example: My spider-sense keeps reacting from low to the left, that maust be where bad guy x is.

Originally posted by marvelprince
No DD's recieves sensory input which he then translates into warnings. Example: This guys heart rate is increasing, he's planning a feint

Spider-Man recieves warnings which he can interpret as sensory output
Example: My spider-sense keeps reacting from low to the left, that maust be where bad guy x is.

Your example of DD's sense is pretty accurate. Your Spidey example should be more like..."My Spidey sense is going off, but why?" or "Somethings setting my Spidey sense off." Then he procedes to look for that reason.

Originally posted by marvelprince
No DD's recieves sensory input which he then translates into warnings. Example: This guys heart rate is increasing, he's planning a feint

Yeah but thats what I said....

Originally posted by Alfheim
For example DD can hear somebodys heart beat and he can determine wether a person is going to attack him or not. Thats just one example due to the information that DD gets from his senses this can give him an early warning.
Originally posted by marvelprince

Spider-Man recieves warnings which he can interpret as sensory output
Example: My spider-sense keeps reacting from low to the left, that maust be where bad guy x is.

I dont understand how DDs senses dont do that. I think im going to give this 6/10 to Spiderman eventhough he is blind its as if it doesnt make that much difference and as DD himself said Spiderman is very powerful and can murder him. Spiderman still needs to get one good shot to win.

I dont think Spidermans senses are as good as DDs so I would give DD the slight edge.

Originally posted by jrodslam
Your example of DD's sense is pretty accurate. Your Spidey example should be more like..."My Spidey sense is going off, but why?" or "Somethings setting my Spidey sense off." Then he procedes to look for that reason.

Most times when its a simple situation like just dodging thats how Spider-Man is but when he needs to locate something thats how he uses his SS

Originally posted by jrodslam
Your example of DD's sense is pretty accurate. Your Spidey example should be more like..."My Spidey sense is going off, but why?" or "Somethings setting my Spidey sense off." Then he procedes to look for that reason.

This implies that DDs senses are more accurate because DD would get more information back.

Originally posted by Alfheim
This implies that DDs senses are more accurate because DD would get more information back.

And thats what ive been saying since day 1. Thus imo DDS >SS.

Originally posted by marvelprince
Most times when its a simple situation like just dodging thats how Spider-Man is but when he needs to locate something thats how he uses his SS

True, i do agree that if the threat has already taken place(shot fired or sucker punch thrown) thats how Spidey is. DD's senses work the same way though, but just gives him more info.

Am I seeing things didnt Grey Fox just post something? 😕 😕

Originally posted by Alfheim
This implies that DDs senses are more accurate because DD would get more information back.

Actually, that is true, IMO.
Spidey has no vision here, so when spiderman goes "spider sense is tingeling!"
and looks around to locate it (as he usually does)

hes going to look around in complete darkness
then he may swing clumsily or make an educated guess-dodge,
shortly thereafter he will feel a flaming hot burn in his nervous system
and then a billy club.. etc

Originally posted by jrodslam
Your example of DD's sense is pretty accurate. Your Spidey example should be more like..."My Spidey sense is going off, but why?" or "Somethings setting my Spidey sense off." Then he procedes to look for that reason.

That was back in the day. After many years of feeling his spider-sense tingling, he's come to realize what buzzes mean what attacks.

For example. If his spider-sense just told him something's wrong, how could he have avoided this attack in time (see attachment)? Simple, because it tells him where the attack will potentially hit, when it will potentially hit, and what kind of attack it is.

Spider-Man is pretty accurate in the dark. Of course, DD is much better at it than SM, but don't underestimate him.

I have seen him on numerous occasions close his eyes, and focus only on his spider sense, to knock out his enemy.

Originally posted by Metalmanx

For example. If his spider-sense just told him something's wrong, how could he have avoided this attack in time (see attachment)? Simple, because it tells him where the attack will potentially hit, when it will potentially hit, and what kind of attack it is.

OK if that was DD do you realise how much information he will be getting. Not only would he know that hes going to be attacked but he would probably get an idea of how tall the attacker is and that he isnt human. Do you know DD was able to detect Spdiermans approxiamte age.....damn.

Originally posted by Superherovandal
DD really shouldn't dodge bullets or lasers cause by the time the sound waves reach back the bullets should be near him and the lasers would reach him before the sound would.
A laser is essentially photons, which are for all intents and purposes massless. How exactly does one use a radar sense to avoid lasers at all, discounting that any form of echo-location would be too slow?

http://img390.imageshack.us/my.php?image=spideyandddsenses25qu.jpg

I dont know how recent this was but nuff said really. Spiderman says something, DD says shotgun. Spiderman also says "I hate it when your right." This implies that this happens frequently.

Originally posted by Alfheim
http://img390.imageshack.us/my.php?image=spideyandddsenses25qu.jpg

I dont know how recent this was but nuff said really. Spiderman says something, DD says shotgun. Spiderman also says "I hate it when your right." This implies that this happens frequently.

That was more of a joke than anything. Spider-Man detected something was wrong and Daredevil detected exactly what was happening. I don't think anyone here is disputing that in terms of knowing exactly whats going on in terms of senses (be it spider or radar) that DD has Spider-Man. My point though is that Spider-Man's spider-sense is strong enough to the point where he can use it to discern enough information in order to land a hit on Daredevil even if he's blind. Of course he won't be able to tell Daredevil if he's a heavy smoker or if he needs to change his pace-maker but by focusing on his spider-sense he can at least locate him and KO him

Originally posted by marvelprince
That was more of a joke than anything.

No offense but that sounds biased, because you said this later on.

Originally posted by marvelprince

Spider-Man detected something was wrong and Daredevil detected exactly what was happening. I don't think anyone here is disputing that in terms of knowing exactly whats going on in terms of senses (be it spider or radar) that DD has Spider-Man.

Anyway nevermind.

Originally posted by marvelprince

My point though is that Spider-Man's spider-sense is strong enough to the point where he can use it to discern enough information in order to land a hit on Daredevil even if he's blind. Of course he won't be able to tell Daredevil if he's a heavy smoker or if he needs to change his pace-maker but by focusing on his spider-sense he can at least locate him and KO him

Well ok fair enough. I tell you what im gonna go do some research into Spidey's senses, to be fair I dont know detailed info about it. From what people have told me about Spidey he could still win the majority.

Originally posted by Alfheim
No offense but that sounds biased, because you said this later on.

No no. I don't mean it was joke as in Spider-Man didn't know Daredevil was right but the comment itself was meant to be humorous. He says I hate it when it your ritght even though everyone knows Daredevil is always right when it comes to things to like that. Its supposed to be funny because Daredevil being right or wrong is never in question.

Its like if Spider-Man foreshadows something bad happening and then laments about being right. He knows he is but wishes it weren't the case cause then he wouldn't be in danger. Hope that made some sort of sense.

Originally posted by marvelprince
No no. I don't mean it was joke as in Spider-Man didn't know Daredevil was right but the comment itself was meant to be humorous. He says I hate it when it your ritght even though everyone knows Daredevil is always right when it comes to things to like that. Its supposed to be funny because Daredevil being right or wrong is never in question.

Its like if Spider-Man foreshadows something bad happening and then laments about being right. He knows he is but wishes it weren't the case cause then he wouldn't be in danger. Hope that made some sort of sense.

Well ok anyway theres nothing really to debate anymore. 😂

Basically what they're trying to say is that DD has better senses (smell, touch), but his "sense" isn't better in combat.