X-Men vs. Uncanny X-men

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Originally posted by Roldz a.) Could you even supressed Bobby's power when at Iceform, considering the diff. from human to Elemental physiology are quite substansial.. (his no longer human/mutant but an elemental and follows diff. law) Myself i dont think those dampening tech/powers would work on Bobby's iceform...

c.)Tie, unless Bobby's human prior to the fight...

Hmm...good point...but doesn't an iced up form count as prep..although it does count as battle ready?
There's got to be a wacky plot device...that can beat him...how about..."a type of radiation that forces Bobby back into human form" 😏...meh too tired to come up with something...leave it as a stalemate I guess. :/

b.)Theres got to be some kind of energy/aura extended outside of Darwins physical body to sense the kind of evolution needed for him to survived, question is, does it work faster than Bobby's Ice powers?

Well consider the steps Bobby has to take in order to use his powers...Darwins body is in continuous evolution...can Bobby attack Darwin before he is able to process a thought?

a.)Stalemate is good showing, for someone not herald level..
b.)I do beleived i ask desame question before you? 😛

Originally posted by Blair Wind
He's frozen a celestial ship, and all it was composed of (molecules). It did not have water in it, therefore he is not just limited to water . Besides heat is the measure of movement of kinetic energy 😬
I’m not saying that he is limited to just water or has the potential to but I have seen that scan of him freezing the ship and disagree with the use of it and what the effects are, in the scan of Legion the 3rd party said that he froze all water in his body but he still was able to think and react so he didn’t freeze everything.

Kinetic energy and heat are separate things, you can use the kinetic energy to measure heat but that doesn’t mean they are the same.

Actually Kinetic is present in about anything, and in theory Bobby powers work in decreasing be it autonomic deduction of K energy. Thats why he can frezze HV and the like..

Originally posted by Roldz
Actually Kinetic is present in about anything, and in theory Bobby powers work in decreasing be it autonomic deduction of K energy. Thats why he can frezze HV and the like..
Yes kinetic energy is in everything that has mass and is in motion but that doesn’t mean that it has to have heat in theory, heat is the result of friction and if there is no friction then there is no heat.

Your right... But kinetic goes far beyond mass and in this universe everything is in motion... everythin..

Originally posted by ThePittman
Yes kinetic energy is in everything that has mass and is in motion but that doesn’t mean that it has to have heat in theory, heat is the result of friction and if there is no friction then there is no heat.

Not true. Heat can come from chemical or nuclear reaction as well, in addition to electromagnetic radiation. Friction is only ONE way to transfer heat.

Originally posted by Roldz
Your right... But kinetic goes far beyond mass and in this universe everything is in motion... everythin..
Yes it is and that is why in reality there is no such thing as a vacuum or absolute zero but in comics that is something different because they break the laws all the time. New Son though has the mastery of kinetic energy and that would make Bobby a New Son if they did that, New Son can increases the level of kinetic energy in something where Bobby can’t, in theory New Son could do the same thing as Bobby.

Originally posted by Soljer
Not true. Heat can come from chemical or nuclear reaction as well, in addition to electromagnetic radiation. Friction is only ONE way to transfer heat.
I’m talking friction down to the atomic level, atoms hitting each other is friction which causes heat.

Originally posted by ThePittman
I’m talking friction down to the atomic level, atoms hitting each other is friction which causes heat.

Radiation waves can transfer heat without the movement of mass.

Bobby doesnt have that kind of control.. + i dont think he can increase k to a point above what it was before he manipulated it or some kind of cap other wise hed be also capable of manipulating all forms of heat increasing in temp.. Not to mentioned alot more than that..

Originally posted by Soljer
Radiation waves can transfer heat without the movement of mass.
As far as I know they still have particles in them which would collide with other atoms causing friction and heat.

Originally posted by Roldz
Bobby doesnt have that kind of control.. + i dont think he can increase k to a point above what it was before he manipulated it or some kind of cap other wise hed be also capable of manipulating all forms of heat increasing in temp.. Not to mentioned alot more than that..
Which is New Son

all this mentioned Kinetic is present...

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Originally posted by Roldz
Bobby doesnt have that kind of control.. + i dont think he can increase k to a point above what it was before he manipulated it or some kind of cap other wise hed be also capable of manipulating all forms of heat increasing in temp.. Not to mentioned alot more than that..

Which is New Son

But where talking about Bobby here 😛 ..

Originally posted by ThePittman
As far as I know they still have particles in them which would collide with other atoms causing friction and heat.

Energy alone.

Yeah, yeah, wave-particle duality, blah blah blah.

Still no mass.

Originally posted by Soljer
Energy alone.

Yeah, yeah, wave-particle duality, blah blah blah.

Still no mass.

However it does have inertia which affects the atoms around it causing friction, even with light and EMW are affected by gravity which only responds to mass but that is more in the quantum mechanics realm.