Which of these Marvel Characters would be the most even trade for Batman in the JLA

Night Thrasher made a good start, or was on his way to become a batman rip-off:
both his parents where killed, like batmans, NT took over his parents company, so he's pretty rich, and trained with the best trainers around the world.
Extremely skilled hand-to-hand combatant, and master in an as-yet-unspecified Japanese martial art.
Athletic prowess and fighting ability are par excellence he's suppose to be a peak human like batman.
And

He's also pretty smart he made his own battle Armor, with all kinds of gadgets on it.

but well he's deceased

Black Panther. He has more resource and plans for everything, almost never surprised. He took out Mephisto with ease b/c he was prepared for him and then beat him in his own territory. Please, respect BP. His planning ability is equal to if not outclassing Bats. His fighting skill is equal too or just a little less than that of Bats. His suit is much greater than that of Bats, Bat's isn't even bullet proof only bullet resistant that's why he has been shot on more than one occasion. While BP's, has taken a barrage of bullets from AK's at pointblank. Bp's armor can also withstand multiple attacks from the Iron Fist.

I love the entire Bat family, but BP is more than a good enough trade.

(For anyone who disagrees check out either the Priest Run on BP or BP respect thread.)

I think Bastion would be the coolest

Bastion- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bastion_%28comics%29

Gremlin as a weird suggestion

Gremlin/Titanium Man/Waynes Money- http://www.marveldirectory.com/individuals/g/gremlin.htm

or

Cyclops

or

Forge

or

Professor Hulk

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Wizard

Originally posted by masterbruce
Batman is the one irreplaceable guy on the JLA.

Out of these, probobly T'Challa

The main difference between the two is that T'Challa is smarter and has Cap level stats

Some claim that Moon Knight is a Batman rip-off. His first series was really well written and was a quality comic. I wasn't so into the second series, but I've heard good things about the new one.

I actually prefer Moon Knight to Batman because of the Egyptian mythology, and...I have to admit it...the better costume (IMHO). Even though I prefer Moon Knight personally, I would say he is not as great a hero as Batman because his story is more convoluted and because Batman is the original.

He is closer to the original Batman in spirit than even Black Panther is (I like Black Panther very much too). Moon Knight is more street level and gritty. Rich, but he doesn't own a country. He has gadgets, but more down to earth gadgets than high technology.

He is more like the "Dark Knight" Batman. I prefer that Batman to the super-genius level Batman that takes punches from Superman, outwits cosmics, and has unlimited resources. I actually prefer a Batman who could not make a suit like Iron Man, who could not teleport, who could not get cosmic level items. The reason? He was a gritty hero who showed the limits of what a regular person could do, and was more about mood than super abilities.

Moon Knight is similarly about mood.

If we are replacing the Dark Knight Batman, then I vote Moon Knight. If we are replacing the high powered Justice League Batman, then Black Panther.

Batman is a great hero, I think part of respecting him is respecting what makes him great. Not just always asserting that he is the best at everything.

Batman is the prototype for a certain type of character. In that he is irreplaceable.

Originally posted by Sabretooth
Although nobody is truly a good replacement for Batman, Black Panther is the best choice from those available. This thread brings up an interesting point: While there are several Superman rip-offs, there really aren't many decent good Batman rip-offs. The formula is a good one, so why hasn't anybody really copied it? Sure there was Nighthawk from Earth-S, but he was in intentionally similar to Batman. Nightman is just stupid. Who would be the equivalent of Superman's "Sentry" for Batman?

Originally posted by Grimm22
Out of these, probobly T'Challa

The main difference between the two is that T'Challa is smarter and has Cap level stats

Never really seen a feat from T'Challa that I couldn't see Bruce pulling off.

And, T'Challa smarter than Bruce? Only if he's being written by Hudlin....

Originally posted by Soljer
Never really seen a feat from T'Challa that I couldn't see Bruce pulling off.

And, T'Challa smarter than Bruce? Only if he's being written by Hudlin....

Could be because Bruce is more exposed than T'Challa.

Plus I could say the same for Bruce. I've seen nothing he's done that T'Challa can't do

Originally posted by marvelprince
Could be because Bruce is more exposed than T'Challa.

Plus I could say the same for Bruce. I've seen nothing he's done that T'Challa can't do

Physically? Sure. I'm not saying that Bruce is any stronger or faster than T'Challa, just that the Panther is likewise not any stronger or faster than Bruce.

Intellectually? Bruce is on a whole 'nother level. Especially in his JLA and Superman/Batman titles.

marvel dose not need batman 😛

Originally posted by Soljer
Physically? Sure. I'm not saying that Bruce is any stronger or faster than T'Challa, just that the Panther is likewise not any stronger or faster than Bruce.

Intellectually? Bruce is on a whole 'nother level. Especially in his JLA and Superman/Batman titles.

Panther is stronger and faster than Bruce. His herb basically is an equivilant of the SSS.

Intectually though I would give it to Bruce, but its not half as lopsided as you think. Batman's taken down the JLA, Panther's taken down the FF. Batman imo is superior in this aspect but its not at all a curbstop

Originally posted by marvelprince
Panther is stronger and faster than Bruce. His herb basically is an equivilant of the SSS.

Intectually though I would give it to Bruce, but its not half as lopsided as you think. Batman's taken down the JLA, Panther's taken down the FF. Batman imo is superior in this aspect but its not at all a curbstop

Panther is faster and stronger than Bruce? Show me ONE feat of Panther's that Wayne couldn't pull off.

I don't care if, by bios, T'Challa is 'peak human' and the same cannot be said for bruce, I care by panels, comics, and scans.

Bruce has done anything that T'Challa has, and arguably, more.

Batman can only be replaced by the likes of
Cable, Seth, Midnighter, Magneto, Karate Kid, Danger, Nimrod [thats a maybe] Dr Strange... The High Evolutionary [for his knowledge of Hard Science]

Batman's greatest asset is MIND PIWER

as such his replacement must be hardcore enough to pull of stunts like laugh at Magentos the Celestial who was only trying to mindrape the Justice League as an appettizer and eat Creation for dinner

Originally posted by Soljer
Panther is faster and stronger than Bruce? Show me ONE feat of Panther's that Wayne couldn't pull off.

I don't care if, by bios, T'Challa is 'peak human' and the same cannot be said for bruce, I care by panels, comics, and scans.

Bruce has done anything that T'Challa has, and arguably, more.

You can only argue that Bruce has more feats cause he in fact has more, in terms of quantity. He's a much popular character so of course he's gonna have more examples to go by.

Just look at any fight with Panther and Captain America for examples of BP's skills.

Originally posted by marvelprince
You can only argue that Bruce has more feats cause he in fact has more, in terms of quantity. He's a much popular character so of course he's gonna have more examples to go by.

Just look at any fight with Panther and Captain America for examples of BP's skills.

Quantity? Sure. Absolutely.

Doesn't mean the quality would be the same - where is your excuse for that? 😬.

I've never seen T'Challa do something that Batman couldn't. I HAVE seen PLENTY of much less popular characters do things that Bruce couldn't though. Your reasoning really can't apply across the board. 😬.

vision

The Jla is a finely balanced team .
In a group with powerhouses Batman's searing intellect and enhanced Cerebral Cortex are more valuable than his fighting skills

Case in Point Batman Beat Darkseid with Detective SKills Science Strategy forcing Darkseid to renounce Supergirl in Superman/Batman Supergirl.

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I Read both Panther and Batman, JLA in trade and IF ANYONE THINKS PANTHER CAN COVER FOR Batman they're RIGHT.

Panther could cover for a day or two
REPLACE the Bat long term... NO

In a Crisis the Bat is THE Go To Guy.

Mind Power

Wasn't Spider-Man also once the go to guy