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Alright, we seem to be having a lot of trouble agreeing on what characters are to powerful for use in this thing. So I'm going to try to break down just how powerful the characters are allowed to be in simpler terms.

Under Venom means that if you can't see Venom(or someone who most consider to be in league with Venom in terms of overall power) taking AT LEAST 5/10 against the character in question, then they're to powerful. The version of Venom I'm referring to, is Eddie Brock at his peak. Hope that clears things up.

1.Wolverine edit now Cyber

2.Deathstroke

3.Sage

4.Hellion

5.Iron Fist

6.Warpath(current)

7.Shadowcat

8.Spiderman

9.Nightcrawler

10.Mr. X

11.Deadpool

12.Black Panther

13.M (Monet St. Croix)

1.Cyber

2.Deathstroke edit now Havok

3.Sage

4.Hellion

5.Iron Fist

6.Warpath(current)

7.Shadowcat

8.Spiderman

9.Nightcrawler

10.Mr. X

11.Deadpool

12.Black Panther

13.M (Monet St. Croix)

current war path is class 90.

hellion is an omega

havok could litterally kill venom so he another no go

umm kitty pryde would beat venom too.

people need to re think there picks

there at least 4 people on tjhat list that over venom level

Since everyone is switching the characters themselves instead of keeping it secret, you guys go ahead and make your case against the proposed characters, and we'll have a vote on them when everyone is done.

Havok could kill Venom, but mostly because of Venom's specific weaknesses.

Take another person who's Venom-level. I doubt Havok could take them.

venom no longer has that weak ness and still he lose. You do realize it so strong it was able to kill a group of 7 immortals at the same time.

it super powerful. If he blast one full power blast at any one in venom level then he wins. it like scot taking of his visor

hellion an omega mutant that was able to easily destroy a sentinal I nto even sure how he allowed on the list.

he jobs constantly that his only down fall. He a moron, but any sensiable perosn with his powers could kill 10 venoms a once.

You would put Cyclops at Venom level? 😬 And Venom DOES have that weakness- its just not as prominent as it used to be.

Originally posted by SpunkySmurph
You would put Cyclops at Venom level? 😬 And Venom DOES have that weakness- its just not as prominent as it used to be.

even though cyclopes would never do this in comics. if cyclopes took of his visor what the hell is venom gunna do ?

hell scot could win every time. He simply have to take off his visor and no more venom.

havok can do the same thing thats why there character debates are so boring. No one ever talks about them in character.

power wise ya they could mess up pritty much any one in venom level or under. However character wise in comcis they lose, but were not doing comic wise were doing power wise.

who ever thinks black panther has anti metal claws he does not or they simply don't work very well.

Ok, so your sayin Wolverine is cool but downgraded Warpath ain't? BS
You can't sit there and tell me Warpath is above Venom if Logan ain't.

And yea Warpath did lose the ability to fly. If I'm wrong about that when was the last time he did it? Also he was downgraded in strenght too, he is no longer a class 90.

yawn

Fine Capt.

I replace Havok with Snowbird.

Originally posted by Entity
Ok, so your sayin Wolverine is cool but downgraded Warpath ain't? BS
You can't sit there and tell me Warpath is above Venom if Logan ain't.

And yea Warpath did lose the ability to fly. If I'm wrong about that when was the last time he did it? Also he was downgraded in strenght too, he is no longer a class 90.

He not down graded. I never said warpath was better I said he had class 90 strength. please enlighten me to were they ever said they down graded him?

also he was able to fly for one arch it was dumb and they realized it.

Originally posted by SpunkySmurph
yawn

Fine Capt.

I replace Havok with Snowbird.

who can turn into wendigo I don't think so dude.

Originally posted by capt it up
from alpha flight?

who can turn into wendigo I don't think so dude.

I don't recall her ever transforming into a version of Wendigo that was worth its salt... hell, the first thing Wolverine did on his way into comics was knock out Wendigo.

So everyone's cool with Grace and psymon?

Originally posted by SpunkySmurph
I don't recall her ever transforming into a version of Wendigo that was worth its salt... hell, the first thing Wolverine did on his way into comics was knock out Wendigo.

by stabbing it in the head. wendigo was able to stalemate hulk as well as defeat other top tier heavy hitters. the dam guy is well beyond venoms abilities to defeat.

also she turned into one and other mystical creats beyond venom before. Go ask mungy if you don't believe me.