Kindomcome Flash vs Runner vs silver surfer

Originally posted by Stupid Rookie
Do you have the scans from the issues following that? Everyone uses that to show how Runner owns SS but I seem to remember more equal fighting in the SS issues which followed. This was all part of the elders plan to kill Galactus. I don't have the scans and it has been a while. But I seem to remember thinking they were more of equals after this.

Originally posted by darthgoober
They never fought in the next issue. Mantis tripped Runner, while Ego was keeping Surfer busy. Then when Surfer busted out of a volcano, he grabbed Mantis and they flew away.

Interesting, I am going to have to find those comics when I get home. I thought they met a few times over the next several issues, leading to the fight with the InBetweener. I could easily be wrong about this, it has been a while.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
KMC flash was so fast that he could be everywhere at once. He was like the living speed force. He was an abstract. On another lvl than either of these two. He was existing in different dimensions and planes of reality at once. He could complete the entire contest before either move one inch.

You're being utterly ridiculous with this statement, but it's par for the course with your postings. Silver Surfer can travel backwards and forwards through the timestream and step through multiple realities as well.

Silver Surfer can go to any dimension he's ever been in:
http://photobucket.com/albums/b305/surfistaprateado/Thor_443-22.jpg

He has escaped from being trapped in the Soul Gem, something that almost nobody else has done:
http://photobucket.com/albums/b305/surfistaprateado/silver_surfer_1988_008_21.jpg
http://photobucket.com/albums/b305/surfistaprateado/silver_surfer_1988_008_22.jpg

Here he travels so fast that the fabric of space itself warps around him:
http://photobucket.com/albums/b305/surfistaprateado/ss_enslavers_06.jpg

Here is the scan where he travels a lightyear in far less than a second (speedblitz):
http://photobucket.com/albums/b305/surfistaprateado/InfinityGauntlet4p35.jpg
http://photobucket.com/albums/b305/surfistaprateado/InfinityGauntlet4p36.jpg
http://photobucket.com/albums/b305/surfistaprateado/InfinityGauntlet4p37.jpg

Originally posted by Stupid Rookie
Interesting, I am going to have to find those comics when I get home. I thought they met a few times over the next several issues, leading to the fight with the InBetweener. I could easily be wrong about this, it has been a while.

The elders did accompany the in-betweener when he went to confront Galactus, but Surfer and the Runner havent' fought again that I recall.

Originally posted by Galan007
KC Flash was only seen on like 3 pages that were of any consequence, but here are his feats...

He guarded an entire city by himself.

"No one sees him, no one hears him, but everyone has felt his presence"

"He is everywhere at once"

Flash also can transcend all planes of existance, all strata of reality is open to him. He demonstrated this when he pulled the man observing KC from another plane of reality:

Excellent scans by the way. It doesn't show KC Flash travelling past galaxies in outer space though, from what I can see all of his feats were Earth based, which compared to the size of a single galaxy is very very very small. Flash does seem to operate better within an atmosphere, however, which is what makes the contest tricky to judge.

I'm still going to stick with the Runner as the winner though, 5 billion years experience goes a long way 🙂

Originally posted by Kutulu
Excellent scans by the way. It doesn't show KC Flash travelling past galaxies in outer space though, from what I can see all of his feats were Earth based, which compared to the size of a single galaxy is very very very small. Flash does seem to operate better within an atmosphere, however, which is what makes the contest tricky to judge.

Originally posted by Kutulu
I'm still going to stick with the Runner as the winner though, 5 billion years experience goes a long way 🙂

Anyone else?

Originally posted by Kutulu
You're being utterly ridiculous with this statement, but it's par for the course with your postings. Silver Surfer can travel backwards and forwards through the timestream and step through multiple realities as well.

Silver Surfer can go to any dimension he's ever been in:
http://photobucket.com/albums/b305/surfistaprateado/Thor_443-22.jpg

He has escaped from being trapped in the Soul Gem, something that almost nobody else has done:
http://photobucket.com/albums/b305/surfistaprateado/silver_surfer_1988_008_21.jpg
http://photobucket.com/albums/b305/surfistaprateado/silver_surfer_1988_008_22.jpg

Here he travels so fast that the fabric of space itself warps around him:
http://photobucket.com/albums/b305/surfistaprateado/ss_enslavers_06.jpg

Here is the scan where he travels a lightyear in far less than a second (speedblitz):
http://photobucket.com/albums/b305/surfistaprateado/InfinityGauntlet4p35.jpg
http://photobucket.com/albums/b305/surfistaprateado/InfinityGauntlet4p36.jpg
http://photobucket.com/albums/b305/surfistaprateado/InfinityGauntlet4p37.jpg

I"m being utterly rediculous when KMC flash had merfed witht he Speed force itself. Come again?

[QUOTE=7941417]Originally posted by Kutulu
[B]You are missing the point. Silver Surfer is very fast, probably faster than KC flash, but the Runner is faster than the Surfer. It's the process of elimination. We know that Runner is faster than Surfer, so you take Surfer out of the picture. Therefore Surfer is a non-factor. That doesn't mean that Surfer isn't super-fast, as he is one of the fastest heroes in Marvel, can travel literally billions times the speed of light, it just means that he is less fast than the Runner.

Surfer has travelled backwards in time before, btw, so he is capable of time travel.

Basically what I am saying is that whatever the Surfer has done in terms of speed, the Runner is even faster than that.

❌ You my dear friend are missing the point what i stated and clearly is that there is a clear difference in terms of speed Blitzing and travelling speed and the latter is what surfer excels at.

Originally posted by Supreme being
[QUOTE=7941417]Originally posted by Kutulu
[B]You are missing the point. Silver Surfer is very fast, probably faster than KC flash, but the Runner is faster than the Surfer. It's the process of elimination. We know that Runner is faster than Surfer, so you take Surfer out of the picture. Therefore Surfer is a non-factor. That doesn't mean that Surfer isn't super-fast, as he is one of the fastest heroes in Marvel, can travel literally billions times the speed of light, it just means that he is less fast than the Runner.

Surfer has travelled backwards in time before, btw, so he is capable of time travel.

Basically what I am saying is that whatever the Surfer has done in terms of speed, the Runner is even faster than that.

❌ You my dear friend are missing the point what i stated and clearly is that there is a clear difference in terms of speed Blitzing and travelling speed and the latter is what surfer excels at.

How can the Surfer be Superior to a being composed of the Speed force? What sense does that make?

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
How can the Surfer be Superior to a being composed of the Speed force? What sense does that make?

🤨 Please read my statement again it was in reference to surfer and runner.

Originally posted by Supreme being
🤨 Please read my statement again it was in reference to surfer and runner.

Sorry

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Sorry

👆 No problem its cool.

Originally posted by Galan007
Yeah if this contest was in Space, then I'd say Runner undoubtedly takes this, but since its on a planet I still feel that Falsh could take the majority.

He could very well take this, but it would be very close either way. I honestly don't see Surfer as too much of a factor simply because he dosen't have many good speed feats on a planet. In the vacuum of space moving faster is much easier

Runner has NO speed feats to my knowledge on a planet. When he ran at Mantis on Ego Mantis had enough time to get out of the way and trip him. That is the only case I can think of.

And as stated KC Flash has 3 pages. When talking to Thor SS checked the entire planet for someone in a second. The scan is in the respect thread.

Basically that is a better planet based feat than anything else I could come up with KCF or Runner.

Also important to note that people are basing much of the Runner's speed on their fight, and you have to remember the way the runner makes people like him. Even when he was blasting SS, he was saying how he like the Runner.

Oh, and the Grandmaster says SS was weakend from his battle with him and Korvac. Not sure if that is true, but interesting.