Hulk : not as strong as Thanos, but it won't take long for Hulk to surpass Thanos's strength.
Superman : wow, Superman is way stronger than Thanos (who has no real strength feats by the way). Superman alone can and will give Thanos a very very serious run for his money.
I ask the Thanos worshippers one thing : what has Thanos done with only brute strength, that Hulk or Superman can't do also ?
Originally posted by bigbran
I think they got it, by Thanos saying it in his own words?
He avoids Hulk. There's a reason for it. Learn to live with it.Time Gem, Space Gem, Reality Gem, Mind Gem, Soul Gem. That is what he cut off.
He was only using the Power Gem.
You are a liar or just ignorant. Your choice.
I'm gonna explain it ONE more time. He cut off the input of the gems in such a way he was no longer omniscient. But the other powers of the gems were still working just fine.
Or can he turn adamantium into rubber by just looking at Wolverine with only the power gem ? Or can he turn asgardian Gods in lego blocks ? Put forcefields around Cyclops' head ? Throw Drax and Hulk back in time ? Turn himself into a giant ?
Wow, and all that with - according to you - just the power gem... 😆
Originally posted by Kid Kurdy
This is funny, when Thanos says something cool, it MUST be true, but when he says he avoids Hulk, the Thanos worshippers try to twist and turn his own words (Yeah but what he really wanted to say was...)He avoids Hulk. There's a reason for it. Learn to live with it.
Oh, thanks for the enlightenment 🙄
Originally posted by Kid KurdyYes he can do those things with the power gem. He has turned a Skrull to stone without any gems, so why not turn adamantium to rubber if that power is augmented by the power gem? Same for Thor to glass and Nova to blocks, its just an example of his matter manipulation powers augmented to limitless levels. He put Odin inside a forcefield thats exactly the same as the one he put around Cyclops, without any gems or tech. His teleportation tech allows for movement around the timestream , so sending them back in time isn't out of the question either if he has limitless power to back it up.
Or can he turn adamantium into rubber by just looking at Wolverine with only the power gem ? Or can he turn asgardian Gods in lego blocks ? Put forcefields around Cyclops' head ? Throw Drax and Hulk back in time ? Turn himself into a giant ?
I agree with Kid Kurdy 100%. Thanos used all of his Infinity Gems, except maybe the Mind Gem, for utilizing that presupposes seeing other opponents' minds or attacking them which would give him a glimpse of their minds anyway. The Power Gem by itself cannot be used to turn Thor into glass. Whoever came up with that absurdity is sniffing industrial strength glue.
Even if you contest that he could do all those things with the Power Gem, one feat you cannot possibly ignore is his throwing a few heroes back into the time of the dinosaurs. Show me how his teleportation allows him access through the time stream, ever. Spatial teleportation has nothing to do with temporal displacement. He cut off sensory input from those relevant gems. He didn't want to feel the ebb of reality change, he didn't want to sense spatial disturbances, he didn't want to see the future, he didn't want to read people's minds or souls. He didn't cut off complete use of those gems. Read the scan.
And Thanos calling Professor Hulk a dog means diddly squat against Savage Hulk. So if you really want to weigh all statements equally, I think it's fair to say that Thanos thinking to himself, would have no reason to lie or self-posture. He doesn't want to tangle with Hulk, deal with it. Even if you had the power of Thanos, would you want to confront someone who gains strength without limit? Look at the the 'Infinity Quest' where he takes on Champion w/ Power Gem. Thanos simply stands there as a bluff taking on increasingly greater punches on his forcefield. Right when the forcefields are at their breaking point, his bluff works and Champion gives up, not knowing he was about to break them. It's pretty simple, and my hypo still works: Superman contains him, Hulk pounds til Thanos' shields are broken.
Originally posted by OneDumbG0
I agree with Kid Kurdy 100%. Thanos used all of his Infinity Gems, except maybe the Mind Gem, for utilizing that presupposes seeing other opponents' minds or attacking them which would give him a glimpse of their minds anyway. The Power Gem by itself cannot be used to turn Thor into glass. Whoever came up with that absurdity is sniffing industrial strength glue.Even if you contest that he could do all those things with the Power Gem, one feat you cannot possibly ignore is his throwing a few heroes back into the time of the dinosaurs. Show me how his teleportation allows him access through the time stream, ever. Spatial teleportation has nothing to do with temporal displacement. He cut off sensory input from those relevant gems. He didn't want to feel the ebb of reality change, he didn't want to sense spatial disturbances, he didn't want to see the future, he didn't want to read people's minds or souls. He didn't cut off complete use of those gems. Read the scan.
And Thanos calling Professor Hulk a dog means diddly squat against Savage Hulk. So if you really want to weigh all statements equally, I think it's fair to say that Thanos thinking to himself, would have no reason to lie or self-posture. He doesn't want to tangle with Hulk, deal with it. Even if you had the power of Thanos, would you want to confront someone who gains strength without limit? Look at the the 'Infinity Quest' where he takes on Champion w/ Power Gem. Thanos simply stands there as a bluff taking on increasingly greater punches on his forcefield. Right when the forcefields are at their breaking point, his bluff works and Champion gives up, not knowing he was about to break them. It's pretty simple, and my hypo still works: Superman contains him, Hulk pounds til Thanos' shields are broken.
Originally posted by darthgooberAn eminently reasonable response. However, when you closely read what Thanos intimated in the 'Thanos Quest,' what he wished to avoid was the Hulk's ability to grow stronger and stronger without limit. Professor Hulk never came close to Savage Hulk levels. During Peter David's run, you would see glimpses of it, but to my knowledge, you never saw Professor Hulk go full-blown savage mode. So I agree with what you said. He heard the hype of Savage Hulk, understood what that meant to him but confronted Professor Hulk and was not impressed. So it still stands, Thanos never wanted to deal with a being who could augment his strength limitlessly.
Yes but the "Professor" Hulk was the one that was around when Thanos made that statement. So that would mean that "Professor" Hulk was the one that he was referring to. Now what makes sense to me, is that Thanos may have been put off by the hype surrounding the Hulk, but the Hulk just didn't live up to his expectations.
BTW, I'm not familiar with the Thanos turning a Skrull to stone feat. Anybody wanna point me to the comic or is nice enough to describe the circumstances? He used his technology or some underused power I'm not aware of?
Originally posted by OneDumbG0
An eminently reasonable response. However, when you closely read what Thanos intimated in the 'Thanos Quest,' what he wished to avoid was the Hulk's ability to grow stronger and stronger without limit. Professor Hulk never came close to Savage Hulk levels. During Peter David's run, you would see glimpses of it, but to my knowledge, you never saw Professor Hulk go full-blown savage mode. So I agree with what you said. He heard the hype of Savage Hulk, understood what that meant to him but confronted Professor Hulk and was not impressed. So it still stands, Thanos never wanted to deal with a being who could augment his strength limitlessly.BTW, I'm not familiar with the Thanos turning a Skrull to stone feat. Anybody wanna point me to the comic or is nice enough to describe the circumstances? He used his technology or some underused power I'm not aware of?
Champion with the pg is stronger than Savage Hulk...
Originally posted by OneDumbG0
An eminently reasonable response. However, when you closely read what Thanos intimated in the 'Thanos Quest,' what he wished to avoid was the Hulk's ability to grow stronger and stronger without limit. Professor Hulk never came close to Savage Hulk levels. During Peter David's run, you would see glimpses of it, but to my knowledge, you never saw Professor Hulk go full-blown savage mode. So I agree with what you said. He heard the hype of Savage Hulk, understood what that meant to him but confronted Professor Hulk and was not impressed. So it still stands, Thanos never wanted to deal with a being who could augment his strength limitlessly.BTW, I'm not familiar with the Thanos turning a Skrull to stone feat. Anybody wanna point me to the comic or is nice enough to describe the circumstances? He used his technology or some underused power I'm not aware of?
Originally posted by OneDumbG0
BTW, I'm not familiar with the Thanos turning a Skrull to stone feat. Anybody wanna point me to the comic or is nice enough to describe the circumstances? He used his technology or some underused power I'm not aware of?
Originally posted by darthgoober
However, the fact remains that at the end of the day, Hulk is a one trick pony.
Hulk - classic Hulk, Savage Hulk, whatever - is also a fighting machine.People like the Super Skrull and Thor have a hard time with Hulk, because they always end up getting into it physically with him(which is where the intergalactic hype comes from). However if they went all out and used all of the abilities at their disposal, I honestly don't think that they would have all that difficult of a time dealing with him.
Yes, very very true. But exactly the same thing can be said about Thanos.
If Surfer tried to fight Thanos with his brains for a change (using his speed for example, his famous cosmic awareness) instead of coming real close and surfing right into his fists or cosmic blasts, Thanos wouldn't be able to even touch Surfer. And by the same token, if Thanos tried to fight an enraged Savage Hulk using less than his full potential, he would have a hard time also. But we're not talking about that kind of match here. This is a match where Thanos wants to win in the easiest manner possible.
Wrong. Forum rules : each combatant is fighting to the fullest of his abilities. Not only Thanos. Hulk and Superman want to win also.
Don't give Thanos advantages because "he wants to win in he easiest manner possible." There is no easy way against these two.Which means that even an enraged Hulk goes down after Thanos lets loose with several blast like the one that blew Galactus out of his ship.
That's what you say. I'm not so sure. And before you say : Hulk has been knocked down by far less - true - but he also has walked through much worse - also true.
There's not enough Hulk knowledge here on these threads. That's the problem.
Originally posted by OneDumbG0
An eminently reasonable response. However, when you closely read what Thanos intimated in the 'Thanos Quest,' what he wished to avoid was the Hulk's ability to grow stronger and stronger without limit. Professor Hulk never came close to Savage Hulk levels. During Peter David's run, you would see glimpses of it, but to my knowledge, you never saw Professor Hulk go full-blown savage mode. So I agree with what you said. He heard the hype of Savage Hulk, understood what that meant to him but confronted Professor Hulk and was not impressed. So it still stands, Thanos never wanted to deal with a being who could augment his strength limitlessly.
Originally posted by juggernaut66666
Have you seen what Bannerless Hulk did to Surfer?Nothing.
Not that long ago, they fought again, and Hulk pretty much kicked Surfer around. Hulk also fought Surfer and Namor at the same time, and did well. And in Planet Hulk, he almost kills Surfer.
Mindless Hulk also has fought Wonderman, She-Hulk, Hercules, Namor, Captain America, Iron Man, Hawkeye, Captain Marvel and a few other Avengers at the same time, and he was Kicking Ass !!! That was after he beat the living daylights out of Doc Samson.
Thor is considered Surfers equal. Guess who has beaten Thor quite a few times ?
Oh, and last but not least, Thing has knocked down Surfer. Hulk >>>>> Thing.
You see people, it isn't as simple as it looks.
