Superman & Savage Hulk vs. Thanos

Started by bigbran5 pages

Originally posted by Kid Kurdy
This is funny, when Thanos says something cool, it MUST be true, but when he says he avoids Hulk, the Thanos worshippers try to twist and turn his own words (Yeah but what he really wanted to say was...)
Oh, but this is completely different. Not even comparable.
Thanos explained what he was doing, in the IG.
He made one comment about Hulk in his mind, and now people use that as examples for Hulk beating Thanos.

Originally posted by Kid Kurdy
He avoids Hulk. There's a reason for it. Learn to live with it.
Oh, jeeze, he must really be scared of Hulk...

He certainly avoids Hulk...

Originally posted by Kid Kurdy
[B]
You are a liar or just ignorant. Your choice.
Oh, so me saying what happened in the IG, is me being a liar, or ignorant, because there isn't even remotely the chance of me being right, and your 100% correct?
Ego?

Originally posted by Kid Kurdy
I'm gonna explain it ONE more time. He cut off the [b]input of the gems in such a way he was no longer omniscient. But the other powers of the gems were still working just fine.[/B]
How does that work? Does the Soul Gem make him omniscient? Why would he cut off the input of the Soul Gem? Why would he cut off the Space Gem? It just doesn't make sense.
He even said he would retain limitless power (ala Power Gem), but he wouldn't be able to see there next move.

Even if you are right, he still completely depowered himself to really low levels. He was weakened either way.
But, I still stand by what I say, and if that is you throwing insults around, then so be it.

Originally posted by Kid Kurdy
Or can he turn adamantium into rubber by just looking at Wolverine with only the power gem ? Or can he turn asgardian Gods in lego blocks ? Put forcefields around Cyclops' head ? Throw Drax and Hulk back in time ? Turn himself into a giant ?

Wow, and all that with - according to you - just the power gem... 😆

Wally answered this.

Originally posted by Kid Kurdy
Come again ? The only victory of Surfer that I know, is in Hulk 250 (Savage Hulk I think), and that was because Surfer absorbed the gamma radiation.
Maybe because Surfer didn't wanted to kill Hulk but as he said he could easily disintegrade him.

Originally posted by Kid Kurdy
Not that long ago, they fought again, and Hulk pretty much kicked Surfer around. Hulk also fought Surfer and Namor at the same time, and did well. And in Planet Hulk, he almost kills Surfer.
Maybe because Surfer was weakened didn't had access to the power cosmic and was mind controlled and Hulk attacked him when Surfer has already stopped fighting.
Originally posted by Kid Kurdy

Mindless Hulk also has fought Wonderman, She-Hulk, Hercules, Namor, Captain America, Iron Man, Hawkeye, Captain Marvel and a few other Avengers at the same time, and he was Kicking Ass !!! That was after he beat the living daylights out of Doc Samson.

He still got beaten and Surfer is till above those guys.

Originally posted by Kid Kurdy

Thor is considered Surfers equal. Guess who has beaten Thor quite a few times ?

Oh, and last but not least, Thing has knocked down Surfer. Hulk >>>>> Thing.

Maybe because Thor was fighting like an idiot. Show me a scan of Thing knocking out Surfer.

Originally posted by Kid Kurdy
Come again ? The only victory of Surfer that I know, is in Hulk 250 (Savage Hulk I think), and that was because Surfer absorbed the gamma radiation.

Not that long ago, they fought again, and Hulk pretty much kicked Surfer around. Hulk also fought Surfer and Namor at the same time, and did well. And in Planet Hulk, he almost kills Surfer.

Mindless Hulk also has fought Wonderman, She-Hulk, Hercules, Namor, Captain America, Iron Man, Hawkeye, Captain Marvel and a few other Avengers at the same time, and he was Kicking Ass !!! That was after he beat the living daylights out of Doc Samson.

Thor is considered Surfers equal. Guess who has beaten Thor quite a few times ?

Oh, and last but not least, Thing has knocked down Surfer. Hulk >>>>> Thing.

You see people, it isn't as simple as it looks.

Surfer beat him another time, when Hulk couldn't breath in space, and Surfer had to take him back to Earth. This is character development too, something I will get to later...

Oh, was this when Surfer was cut off from the power cosmic, and Hulk attacked him from behind, when Surfer finally gained awareness?
Some win...

That was Mindless Hulk. He was beaten by being BFRed. He was stronger than normally, since all the guys he fought, gave him a hard time by themselves, and then he was able to fight them all at once.

Thor's hammer is considered his equal. They aren't comparable, Surfer and Thor to whom they fight. One actually uses his power often, the other doesn't and just whacks things, in crossovers. Thor and Hulk end up stalemating without Thor's hammer, with Thor's hammer, Hulk stomps Thor... hmmm...
Thor is more h2h, Surfer is more, of fly around and blast shit up.

Character development. Wasn't that around the time when Thing was considered one of the strongest in Marvel? Also, Surfer beat Abomination in h2h, around that time too. Surfer was weakened too. I think it was classic Abom too, the one who stomped Hulk.
Do you think Thing, would be able to do the same thing nowadays?

Yes it is. Surfer absorbs the radiation out of him. Surfer has too many powers, to beat anyone with a weakness.

Originally posted by Wally West
Yes he can do those things with the power gem. He has turned a Skrull to stone without any gems, so why not turn adamantium to rubber if that power is augmented by the power gem? Same for Thor to glass and Nova to blocks, its just an example of his matter manipulation powers augmented to limitless levels. He put Odin inside a forcefield thats exactly the same as the one he put around Cyclops, without any gems or tech. His teleportation tech allows for movement around the timestream , so sending them back in time isn't out of the question either if he has limitless power to back it up.

So wrong... so wrong...

Explain why.

Before you do I'll just explain my reasoning. A couple of quotes from Thanos' Quest:

"The gem's (power) wearer can tap into this reservoir to augment ANY force it wishes to utilize"

"I used the gem of power to augment your jewel's plant growing abilities to levels you never dreamt of"

"It (power gem) draws strength from ends of infinity. It enables thought to be become reality"

The power gem does not just increase physical strength, it can be used to increase the power of any force the user wishes to use, such as the Gardener's plant growing powers. The most common application of the gem is to augment physical strength (Drax, Champion, Thor) etc, but that is not its only use (if it were, the gem would not be able to power the other gems such as Soul, Time, Space, Reality, which are not physical), Thanos could use it to augment his existing powers to limitless levels, we have seen him turn flesh to stone before, rearrange the Fallen One's brain on an atomic level, so he has matter manipulation powers, if they were enhanced to limitless levels, turning Thor to glass is not out of the question.

I never said he was using just the power gem, I just said the things we saw him do would be possible with just that gem. I do think its most likely he was using just that gem though, as I think there is a bigger difference between the power of Thanos we saw fighting Earth's heroes and the Thanos at full power fighting the abstracts than just some sort of pre-cog and knowing his opponent's next move. I could be wrong, feel free to point me to any comics/quotes/scans that prove it.

Unrelated to my previous post, but on the subject of Thanos fearing the Hulk and trying to avoid him, he does a really lousy job at it:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v108/Ixion83/quasar38i.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v108/Ixion83/quasar38ii.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v108/Ixion83/quasar38iii.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v108/Ixion83/quasar38iv.jpg

Quasar puts up a dome between the Watch and the other heroes, Thanos on one side and Hulk on the other. Who is the one who breaks the dome purposefully and declares "Now, a fight they want? A fight they'll get!", then goes straight for Hulk and Thing to smash their heads together? The Mad Titan. Really quaking in his boots I'm sure.

I've already pointed out in other threads before the comment he made about avoiding the Hulk would have been refering to his pre-death days, since he made the comment very soon after being resurrected. He was vastly more powerful after his resurrection and has had no problems with the Hulk since then.

thanos wins 😐

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Originally posted by MR.Grum
thanos wins 😐
Originally posted by darthgoober
No way is Supes soloing Thanos. Even the DC fans will tell you that.

Supes is soloing Thanos.

Originally posted by dvampire
Supes is soloing Thanos.

😆 😆 😆 😆 😆

Originally posted by juggernaut66666
😆 😆 😆 😆 😆

Supes solo Thanos. 😐

Originally posted by dvampire
Supes solo Thanos. 😐

In your dreams fanboy.

Originally posted by juggernaut66666
In your dreams fanboy.

In your dreams jackass! 🙂

Originally posted by dvampire
In your dreams jackass! 🙂

Care to explain how is Superman going to "beat" Thanos?
I rember last time you said that Despero would beat Surfer...... 😆

Originally posted by juggernaut66666
Care to explain how is Superman going to "beat" Thanos?
I rember last time you said that Despero would beat Surfer...... 😆

Care to explain how Thanos is going to beat Superman?

IU still think despero beats the crap out Surfer, he'll do alot worse than what Thor and Thanos did to him.

Thanos can absorb his life force for instance......

Originally posted by juggernaut66666
Thanos can absorb his life force for instance......

Show me scans of Thanos absorbing a persons life force? He's never had the ability to take souls now, unless he's using the soul gem.

http://img412.imageshack.us/img412/5064/energy21vd1.jpg