Again Frank is underestimated
Originally posted by LordFearIt isn't too hard to grasp, frank has held his own against wolvie for years, even in their first encounter without prep. Then when ennis came around he had a mad-on for superpowered guys so he had frank kick their ass and then wolvies writer made punisher look gay. With all that aside in a h2h fight wolvie would probably take it more than not, but if there was any prep involved wolvie would stand little chance at winning. As for this fight i say Pun and Fury since they are excellent at killing and know how to use their weapons and exploite weakness, the mutants will last, and get their licks in but in the end they die.
Wolverine can take out Sabertooth but not Frank?
He can stand blows from Thing and Hulk, takes shots at Ironman but Punisher burns him? Something majorly wrong with those writers
I just don't see a guy who stands and fight and takes down Sentinels, ninjas trainded by the Hand, Elektra and countless other mercs and expert killers can be toppled by Frank. The guy is lame and gets boosted up depending on the writers trying to give the normal guy with a chip on his shoulders all the chances in the world
Originally posted by LordFearIts no use arguing how well trained and remarkably skilled frank is. 30 years of war with the underworld/superpowered guys/superheor's would leave any other guy six feet under a long time ago. 2,000 plus kills under his belt. His prep skills are nearly flawless. He is an excellent h2h combatant, equal to moon knight/american agent. Boarderline superhuman pain tolerance, taking bullets out of his body numerous times by himself with no seditives. Taking seven bullets and 24 armed soldiers with just a shovel handle. Master of small and large caliber weapons, blades, explosives. Sergical with accuracy, has hit spiderman (i don't give a fuk if u say its psi, it happened), dd and sniped snipers in nam with an m-60, i could go on all night, so please don't say the punisher is a "normal guy with a chip on his shoulders"
I just don't see a guy who stands and fight and takes down Sentinels, ninjas trainded by the Hand, Elektra and countless other mercs and expert killers can be toppled by Frank. The guy is lame and gets boosted up depending on the writers trying to give the normal guy with a chip on his shoulders all the chances in the world
Originally posted by jgiant
Its no use arguing how well trained and remarkably skilled frank is. 30 years of war with the underworld/superpowered guys/superheor's would leave any other guy six feet under a long time ago. 2,000 plus kills under his belt. His prep skills are nearly flawless. He is an excellent h2h combatant, equal to moon knight/american agent. Boarderline superhuman pain tolerance, taking bullets out of his body numerous times by himself with no seditives. Taking seven bullets and 24 armed soldiers with just a shovel handle. Master of small and large caliber weapons, blades, explosives. Sergical with accuracy, has hit spiderman (i don't give a fuk if u say its psi, it happened), dd and sniped snipers in nam with an m-60, i could go on all night, so please don't say the punisher is a "normal guy with a chip on his shoulders"
Finally a break down of how Frank is such a badass. He and Fury should take, its not gonna be a cake walk but they will get the job done.
Wolverine has a never say die attitude, but so does Frank. The only difference between the 2 are the fact that Frank is human and Wolverine is a mutant. Imagine how ruthless Frank would be if he were a mutant with wolverine level healing. That would be interesting to see.
Originally posted by python99Agreed, but what makes Frank so special and the ultimate badass is that he is human, but i believe his will is superhuman. To have him be a mutant or have powers, he would not be the frank we know and love and he would not be such a powerful character.
Finally a break down of how Frank is such a badass. He and Fury should take, its not gonna be a cake walk but they will get the job done.
Wolverine has a never say die attitude, but so does Frank. The only difference between the 2 are the fact that Frank is human and Wolverine is a mutant. Imagine how ruthless Frank would be if he were a mutant with wolverine level healing. That would be interesting to see.
Punisher isnt even the main threat, Fury will simply pull out a gun with with energy surrounded adamantium rounds, After he plugs wolverine and sabe, and they cant heal and are on the ground unconcious, he unloads some more in them, and then slaps on some udem level 10 nullifiers, and thats the end kids.
Originally posted by StarsNeverFall7So wait, how many punisher comics have u read? I am not saying frank never kicks anyone in the balls, but he usually never does, maybe a half a doven times during his whole existance in comics. And so what if he does, all is fair in war, frank gets the job done and thats all that matters.
Im not attempting to bash but I swear, everything I ever see about the Punisher has him getting the piss beat out of him, then kicking someone in the balls...
Originally posted by StarsNeverFall7Define "alot" cuz i see only two times frank nails someone in the sac, 1. fighting pitsy, the guy who took a shotgun to the face, 2. fighting wolvie, he hit him in the balls with a bat. So if two times out of a six page respect thread is alot than me and u have different definitions of "alot". Maybe the fact u don't like the character shewed ur perspective of "alot".
Don't read the Punisher comics, not a fan of the character. Checked through respect threads and such too see his hardass hype and he seems to do alot of kicking in the balls thats all.
Sabes and Wolverine 8/10.The big thing is that they know and have time to prepare for Pun and Fury.Not to mention that they both have more experience than either of thier opponents,super senses that help alert them and ridiculous healing factors.And Sabes has the strength and speed advantage aswell.This fight is like taking Fury and Punisher cloning them but giving the clones super powers and more combat experience.
Originally posted by StarsNeverFall7Forgive me i forgot the russian. But when ur fighting guys who can tear u limb from limb if ur not careful, i'd do the same thing.
Russian and a few others, its really not "a lot" persay when you count how many times hes done it in his comic run, but its alot more than anyone else ever does it.
Originally posted by jgiant
Its no use arguing how well trained and remarkably skilled frank is. 30 years of war with the underworld/superpowered guys/superheor's would leave any other guy six feet under a long time ago. 2,000 plus kills under his belt. His prep skills are nearly flawless. He is an excellent h2h combatant, equal to moon knight/american agent. Boarderline superhuman pain tolerance, taking bullets out of his body numerous times by himself with no seditives. Taking seven bullets and 24 armed soldiers with just a shovel handle. Master of small and large caliber weapons, blades, explosives. Sergical with accuracy, has hit spiderman (i don't give a fuk if u say its psi, it happened), dd and sniped snipers in nam with an m-60, i could go on all night, so please don't say the punisher is a "normal guy with a chip on his shoulders"
Punisher needs luck and a lot of prep to survive an encounter with Wolverine.
Originally posted by Kid KurdyPunisher is more focused, determined and his prep skills will snuff wolvie's and if frank wanted him dead, he would be dead.
Wolverine is stronger, faster, tougher, more durable, more experienced and just as vicious than Punisher.Punisher needs luck and a lot of prep to survive an encounter with Wolverine.