Originally posted by darthgoober
Cap's shield isn't made of adamantium, it's a vibranium/steel alloy. And it's actually stronger than adamantium.
Sorry Darthgoober, but yes it is....Cap's shield is made from an adamantium / vibranium alloy that has never been duplicated. That's why it's so tough. It's made from both metals!!!!
Originally posted by Comicbook_kid
Sorry Darthgoober, but yes it is....Cap's shield is made from an adamantium / vibranium alloy that has never been duplicated. That's why it's so tough. It's made from both metals!!!!
No, he's right. The shield isn't adamantium. Adamantium was created while attempting to duplicate the metal of the shield.
Some writers have mistakenly referred to it as adamantium but it isn't.
Originally posted by Jonathanos
Here's a scan where the creator of the shield and adamantium explains it. Adamantium came later and isn't the equal of the shield alloy.
Could you do me a favor and tell me what issue of Captain America that scan is from? According to www.marveldirectory.com AND www.classicmarvel.com , they BOTH say that Cap's shield is made from a vibranium/adamantium alloy. And I was always thought that to be true.....if you don't believe me, check these out. They both confirm it.
http://www.classicmarvel.com/cast/captain_america.htm
http://www.marveldirectory.com/individuals/c/captainamerica.htm
Originally posted by Comicbook_kid
Could you do me a favor and tell me what issue of Captain America that scan is from? According to www.marveldirectory.com AND www.classicmarvel.com , they BOTH say that Cap's shield is made from a vibranium/adamantium alloy. And I was always thought that to be true.....if you don't believe me, check these out. They both confirm it.http://www.classicmarvel.com/cast/captain_america.htm
http://www.marveldirectory.com/individuals/c/captainamerica.htm
Originally posted by Swanky-Tuna
I've heard that's a common misconception. Common enough that it's even stated in other comics.
Yes, and that's why it's so hard for me to not believe. I could maybe believe it if one site says it and the other one doesn't...(possibly a type-O), but BOTH sites I posted confirm this to be true...and I'd always heard and believed this too. I remember even in the Spider-Man cartoon from the 90's, in an episode with Captain America, they even said the same thing...that his shield was made from an adamantium/vibranium alloy.
Originally posted by Comicbook_kid
Yes, and that's why it's so hard for me to not believe. I could maybe believe it if one site says it and the other one doesn't...(possibly a type-O), but BOTH sites I posted confirm this to be true...and I'd always heard and believed this too. I remember even in the Spider-Man cartoon from the 90's, in an episode with Captain America, they even said the same thing...that his shield was made from an adamantium/vibranium alloy.
you are 100% correct. and it is harder than regular adamantium. adamantium WAS indeed made while trying to duplicate the shield. and odin could melt the shield if he wanted. the only way to affect it is to alter its molecular structure, something odin (or thor with odin's power) could do.)
Originally posted by Comicbook_kid
Could you do me a favor and tell me what issue of Captain America that scan is from? According to www.marveldirectory.com AND www.classicmarvel.com , they BOTH say that Cap's shield is made from a vibranium/adamantium alloy. And I was always thought that to be true.....if you don't believe me, check these out. They both confirm it.http://www.classicmarvel.com/cast/captain_america.htm
http://www.marveldirectory.com/individuals/c/captainamerica.htm
I believe it's CA #302 but I could be mistaken.
Websites aren't continuity. The Cap scan is. Its take on the shield's metal has been backed up elsewhere, including in an Avengers back-up story.
If you want a couple of websites to back up the scan:
http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix2/maclainmyron.htm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Captain_America's_shield
Rogers' indestructible shield has often been referred to as being an adamantium-vibranium alloy. This is not the case: adamantium was only developed after Rogers was revived from suspended animation, during MacLain's later experiments to try and duplicate the material of the shield (the substance made its first appearance in Avengers Vol. 1 #66, July 1969).The adamantium-vibranium error first arose in the Captain America entry in the Official Handbook of the Marvel Universe (the composition of the shield was accurately described in the adamantium entry) and was propagated in several subsequent stories by writers using the Handbook as a reference. The error was corrected in "Captain America" #303-304, in 1983, which established that the shield is made of vibranium and steel, but that didn't prevent the error's repetition over the years.
(So I was off by an issue or two. It's CA #303 or 304.)
Also from marveldirectory:
http://www.marveldirectory.com/miscellaneous/adamantium.htm
MacLain began experimenting with the process that created Adamantium as a young scientist in the employ of the United States government in the early 1940s. Assigned to create a super-metal with which to build tanks, MacLain labored for month, experimenting with various iron alloys. One of his experiments utilized the rare meteoric ore now known as Wakandan Vibranium. He tried to fuse the Vibranium to the iron alloy numerous times without success. Then one night when he dozed off, some as yet unknown factor entered the process, and permitted the fusion to occur. Upon discovering his success, MacLain poured the molten metal into a disc-shaped mold. The disc, once solidified, has proven to be the most impervious object ever created on Earth. MacLain turned the discover to the government and it was given to Captain America to use as his shield. Neither MacLain nor anyone else has ever been able to discover what was the x-factor that entered the process, or has been able to fuse Vibranium with another metal. (The unknown iron-Vibranium alloy of which the shield is composed resembles True Adamantium, although Adamantium itself contains no Vibranium,)
There was a trail of energy behind the hammer.
Iron Man was shocked that the shield had been dented.
As he repaired the shield, Thor said his father's power was greater than one might think.
But even if you believe that Mjolnir is more durable than Captain America's shield, that doesn't mean anything in regards to unenchanted uru and adamantium.
Originally posted by JonathanosRogers' indestructible shield has often been referred to as being an adamantium-vibranium alloy. This is not the case: adamantium was only developed after Rogers was revived from suspended animation, during MacLain's later experiments to try and duplicate the material of the shield (the substance made its first appearance in Avengers Vol. 1 #66, July 1969).
The adamantium-vibranium error first arose in the Captain America entry in the Official Handbook of the Marvel Universe (the composition of the shield was accurately described in the adamantium entry) and was propagated in several subsequent stories by writers using the Handbook as a reference. The error was corrected in "Captain America" #303-304, in 1983, which established that the shield is made of vibranium and steel, but that didn't prevent the error's repetition over the years.
http://www.marveldirectory.com/miscellaneous/adamantium.htm [/B]
I could be very very wrong here but, I thought Wolverine had an adamantium laced skeleton long before cap was revived? Not that he appeared before this but, he was sapost to have had his weapon x experience before that. Like I said I could be very wrong thou, can anyone help clearify?
Originally posted by Entity
I could be very very wrong here but, I thought Wolverine had an adamantium laced skeleton long before cap was revived? Not that he appeared before this but, he was sapost to have had his weapon x experience before that. Like I said I could be very wrong thou, can anyone help clearify?
It was later suggested that someone... Darkwind was his name, I think... had invented the same metal back during WWII and MacClain independently duplicated it years later and named it.
WOLVERINE # -1, I think.
Originally posted by Jonathanos
There was a trail of energy behind the hammer.Iron Man was shocked that the shield had been dented.
As he repaired the shield, Thor said his father's power was greater than one might think.
But even if you believe that Mjolnir is more durable than Captain America's shield, that doesn't mean anything in regards to unenchanted uru and adamantium.
Don't see the energy trail, or the Odin force being used..... especially since Thor stated in later issues that he didn't use the Odin force much if at all.... Odin than told him to trust himself with the power so it could be unleashed...
Yep looks like pure strength...
Originally posted by Entity
I could be very very wrong here but, I thought Wolverine had an adamantium laced skeleton long before cap was revived? Not that he appeared before this but, he was sapost to have had his weapon x experience before that. Like I said I could be very wrong thou, can anyone help clearify?