Thanos vs Superman

Quick question about the invisibility thing...

If others can see them, since they're merely vibrating at superspeeds, does that mean they're really invisible?

Magneto can bend the light around himself, to make himself invisible to normal eyes, but if someone notes the trick, he's not really invisible.

I'd wager that the Superspeed blur thingy might work on Wolverine, or Hulk and Thor, but not Magneto, or Surfer or anybody with specially tuned senses.

Thanos might be able to pick up on it.

Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
I'm sure many many others have felt the same way about you.... doesn't make you or them right.

Back to topic. Calculated hits from Superman can do plenty of damage and put Thanos in the correct vantage point.

Shields? Drax just broke through one with his bare hands. Even barring that..if Thanos can use outside tech...so can Clark. Mr Z's gem would take care of Thanos fairly quick.

Blasts? Superman has withstood them from guys much tougher than Thanos...and he's stopped them before as well.

Speed. Superman is eons faster than Thanos will ever be. Especially in space. He was quite helpless against the Runner who was just toying with him and not even going full speed.

much tougher than thanos hey name them then?

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Did you fix your lips to say Thanos can beat Darkseid? you really don't know about the Character then. DS can beat most sky fathers and KILL them and he stalemates Highfather who is easily a match for ODIN. What are you smoking? The only beings who can resist the full brunt of the OE are beings who are protected by the Source( God's power), The Spectre who got hurt ( God's wrath), Mr. Mxy, Prolly the most powerful being in comics, The Am, Who got hurt,( Multiversal), And Imperiex,(mUltiversal) who also got hurt. So just when did thanos get so tuff to beat Darkseid? Keep this civil. Leave DS out of it.

I said superman can't beat Thanos or Darkseid read between the lines don't assume nothing, stop acting like a a jacka$$ I forgot it's you silly me 😉 .

I have the comic where superman beat darkseid blind his eyes swelled shut (no more omega).....if Im correct I have or at least had the comic where thanos beat darkseid though hmmm....(crossover which they were very evenly matched)but superman sets his mind to somethin he is invicible not to mention he eventually becomes immortal and powerful enough to break the very gates of heaven itself.............superman!!!!!!!!!!! though thanos is badass no doubt

Originally posted by UniOmni
Quick question about the invisibility thing...

If others can see them, since they're merely vibrating at superspeeds, does that mean they're really invisible?

So someone suggested earlier that we dont' know if the black hole that Superman survived was as strong as the one that Hurt Thanos. Of course I find that to be rediculous, but let me turn the question around, how do we know that the planet that thanos blew up and survived was a big planet? Some planets are as small as moons? You see how subjectivity can be easily turned around?

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
So someone suggested earlier that we dont' know if the black hole that Superman survived was as strong as the one that Hurt Thanos. Of course I find that to be rediculous, but let me turn the question around, how do we know that the planet that thanos blew up and survived was a big planet? Some planets are as small as moons? You see how subjectivity can be easily turned around?

1) I never said the black hole Superman survived wasn't as strong as the one Thanos did, I said you can't make direct comparisons between the two and use them to insist one of them is a better durability feat than the other because theres no way of knowing what happens if someone goes into a black hole and its up to Marvel/DC and their writers to decide what happens, different writers could have different ideas

2) What the hell does the planet being blown up have to do with anything? I don't think I ever said Superman couldn't survive the same thing and I never said it was a big planet

Originally posted by Wally West
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1) I never said the black hole Superman survived wasn't as strong as the one Thanos did, I said you can't make direct comparisons between the two and use them to insist one of them is a better durability feat than the other.

2) What the hell does the planet being blown up have to do with anything? I don't think I ever said Superman couldn't survive the same thing and I never said it was a big planet

Wait, it's ok for the Thanos fan to use something as a durability feat for thanos, and turn around and use something against superman, but the Superman fan can't point out that Superman survived a double black hole, where Thanos got hurt in one? Seems a bit unfair to me don't you think? How else are you supposed to argue for your opinion if you can't compare the two for feats hmmm?

And I was just making a statement about the planet being blown up becuz people like to bring that up, but I started thinking, and I'm like, I wonder how big the planet really was.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Wait, it's ok for the Thanos fan to use something as a durability feat for thanos, and turn around and use something against superman.

Originally posted by Wally West
What exactly have I turned around and used against Superman? I made the statement about comparing the black holes so you must mean I've been turning things around to bring it up. I think Superman getting hit and sent flying by Mjolnir was the only thing I've brought up about Superman's durability, simply because they have both been hit by it from Thor, so you can make a direct comparison between those examples.

😕 Marvel doesn't even consider that Cannon all the way. If we are gonna use that as an example, then WW beats surtur with some help from She hulk. Not a good book to really compare things from. Superman Survived a double black hole while thanos was hurt from a single one. This is a valid argument from the Superman fan. period. Hell, even wonderwoman has survived a black hole, and Thanos got hurt. It's a chink in the Titan's armor. Maybe that is one of his weaknesses.

Unless the two stories were written by the same writer or Marvel and DC decided what exactly happens when you enter a black hole and the durability required to survive it before hand, its not a valid argument. It can be used to show Superman's durability because it is a good feat, but to use it as proof he is more durable than Thanos is wrong.

Originally posted by Wally West
Unless the two stories were written by the same writer or Marvel and DC decided what exactly happens when you enter a black hole and the durability required to survive it before hand, its not a valid argument. It can be used to show Superman's durability because it is a good feat, but to use it as proof he is more durable than Thanos is wrong.

So then people saying Thanos survived a blast from odin as a durability feat, or fighting many top tiers is also wrong becuz it's not written by the same writer's who write for Superman. To say Thanos can whoop on 3 top tiers is wrong with ur reasoning becuz in Superman's universe, every one is shown to be stronger anyway. according to your logic. Basically ur just not being fair. How else can you compare durability if not by using similiar examples? All of thanos' fights are subjective since we dont' know how strong the hulk was at the time of the fight, we don't know how much power odin was really pumping out. But the black hole comparison, is a DIRECT comparison of feats.

No it isn't, I've seen a Flash comic where he and half of Keystone City were sucked into a black hole then spat out later completely unhurt, so are the people of Keystone City more durable than Thanos? Of course not because the situations were different, the writers interpretation of what happens in a black hole were different, the sizes of the black holes were different etc.

Originally posted by Wally West
No it isn't, I've seen a Flash comic where he and half of Keystone City were sucked into a black hole then spat out later completely unhurt, so are the people of Keystone City more durable than Thanos? Of course not because the situations were different, the writers interpretation of what happens in a black hole were different, the sizes of the black holes were different etc.

Half of keystone could have been protected by the speed force aura. But basically your saying we should all stop arguing on here becuz no one knows really what was going thru the writer's minds. I mean, to me, Thanos may not be all that badassed, becuz Like Superman says, in his universe, the Dials go up to 11. Implying that Thanos's universe is weaker and unimpressive. After all, The DCU's magic is stronger, They have far more beings who surpass class 100 by leaps and bounds and has many, many, many herald lvl beings. Or, One can do how we have been doing and argue your point. As it stands, the person who made the comparison that THanos got ill after one Black hole, while Superman Survived two, is correct in his comparison and fairly used it to compare Superman's Durability to Thanos'. Becuz what you are doing, is basically taking the entire platform from which we argue away. If we can't use direct feats. Since marvel's earth is smaller, should we assume that the snake wrapped around the world wasn't that tuff and Thor's feat isn't all that? Come on. Let people present the arguments. Trying to basically tell someone they can't compare the two becuz the writers might be thinking diff is a load of crock to me.

Talking to you is like talking to a brick wall. Goodbye 🙄

Originally posted by Wally West
Talking to you is like talking to a brick wall. Goodbye 🙄

And yet you can't tell me why the Superman fan can't use the Black Hole to make his case. Your being unfair and that's really all there is to it.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
And yet you can't tell me why the Superman fan can't use the Black Hole to make his case. Your being unfair and that's really all there is to it.

Originally posted by snoopdogg
That's the thing about supporting Superman in alot of debates. They discount all of his uber feats.

dont' get me wrong, Superman sucks soooooooooo much to me but, I can't discount the power of the character. I guess we should discount all of thanos's uber feats. It would be rather easy to do.Most of them have to do with Tech, some power up, him not fighting charcters at thier best, and blah blah blah.

Originally posted by snoopdogg
That's the thing about supporting Superman in alot of debates. They discount all of his uber feats.

I dunno if you remember or not, but I'm one of the people arguing that Superman was stronger than the likes of Beta Ray and Thor. I was one of the people POSTING all his uber feats.

Doesn't mean I honestly believe he would have a chance in hell at Thanos. The Surfer and Superman have, arguably, similar durability. And Thanos friggin ONE-SHOTS the Surfer. Thor and Superman have similar Strength (especially a Warrior Madness, power gemmed Thor), and Thanos laughed in his face.

Meh, I like Superman. Quite a bit. And I won't lie, I like Thanos too...

I just don't see Kal pulling it out against the Mad Titan.

Originally posted by snoopdogg
That's the thing about supporting Superman in alot of debates. They discount all of his uber feats.