Martian Manhunter vs Apocalypse

Martian Manhunter (no tp)

vs

Apocalypse

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f51/t434247.html

Telepathy wouldnt work on Apoc anyway...but MM still wins this 9/10

*waits for the Apoc fanboy*

Apoc is a decent match for MM.

Originally posted by Scoobless
Apoc is a decent match for MM.

I just found this thread when I was going to make the same one. anyway this is a great fight and i would give 6 out of 10 for apoc because of MM's weakness to fire, if that wasn't a factor then i would say 5 out of 5 for both. This is a great fight considering how they have the same powers and both are vastly under-estimated and job all the time.

(waits for apoc and x haters who seem like they never read x-men or the respect threads)

J'onn is no longer weak to fire.

Jonn 7/10

I'd have to give J'onn the majority due to his strength and speed advantage.

Originally posted by batdude123
J'onn is no longer weak to fire.

i thought so but I didn't know

still it's 5 out of 5 still in my opinion

Originally posted by batdude123
I'd have to give J'onn the majority due to his strength and speed advantage.

if MM has any advantage in that department I can't imagine it would be enough to matter.

Originally posted by batdude123
I'd have to give J'onn the majority due to his strength and speed advantage.

I get the speed advantage but I think Apoc would be stronger.

Apoc's biggest claim to Strength fame is probably holding hulk.Jonn held Orion,Big Barda and Wonder Woman all at the same time.

Originally posted by jasofisc
if MM has any advantage in that department I can't imagine it would be enough to matter.

He indeed does. His speed is quite a bit greater than Apocalypse's is. He's also a little bit stronger.

The way I see it:

They're basically the same character, except J'onn is faster, stronger and has better control over his body's anatomy. That should wield J'onn 7/10 in this fight.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
I get the speed advantage but I think Apoc would be stronger.

Nah.

Originally posted by Martian_mind
Apoc's biggest claim to Strength fame is probably holding hulk.Jonn held Orion,Big Barda and Wonder Woman all at the same time.

Well then Apoc is screwed in this fight. Thier powers are similar but if do doesn't have the speed or strength he won't win.

Originally posted by batdude123
He indeed does. His speed is quite a bit greater than Apocalypse's is. He's also a little bit stronger.

The way I see it:

They're basically the same character, except J'onn is faster, stronger and has better control over his body's anatomy. That should wield J'onn 7/10 in this fight.

I guess this is just a difference of opinion here i see them as about the same in these areas.

Originally posted by Martian_mind
Apoc's biggest claim to Strength fame is probably holding hulk.Jonn held Orion,Big Barda and Wonder Woman all at the same time.

I would say that beating ikaris prime, and Loki though brute attacks are a bit better then just holding hulk.

btw hasn't orion and wonder woman both over powered MM in the past i'm not trying to discredit the feat just saying it's a high end feat. and that it's equal to apoc battering Loki and Ikaris

Originally posted by jasofisc
I guess this is just a difference of opinion here i see them as about the same in these areas.

What's Apoc's greatest speed feat?

MM also trumped Triumph,a guy as strong,fast and durable as superman(Triumph said this whilst fighting Evenly against Supes) In Addition To Ultraman and Stalemating Captain Marvel in a contest of strength.Not to mention that even if Apoc DOES somehow have an advantage all Jonn has to do is Phase and it's a perpetual stalemate.At Apocs best 5/5 but most likely Jonn 7/10