Darkseid (Vs.) The Destroyer Armor / Loki

Originally posted by UniOmni
The Godwave in theory, is more powerful.

You mean to tell me, that a Celestial probably couldn't have contained Ares with the GW?

Ha!

And they aren't approaching universal levels of power?

Tell that to the Celestial with a universe contained within.

The Godwave is merely the pulse that empowered the superbeings, ie the Godlikes.

That means Kryptonians, Daxamites, Martians, and other demigods.

The Celestials are the actual Gods.

I wouldn't say the Godwave allows someone to defeat a Promethian Giant.

Why would it affect their brethren?

I'd give the Destroyer odds over Darkseid.

Of course you would. But DS has hurt the Spectre. The destroyer is no Spectre. The Godwave wielder was able to push Takion beyond his limits. Takion High lvl Sky father and beyond.

Superman and Doomsday withstood the omega effect. Superman used heat vision to stop the omega effect as well.

Skyfather level attacks will not work on the Destroyer armor.

And besides the omega effect, what else could Darkseid do to stop the armor? Nothing really.

Originally posted by Evangel94
Superman and Doomsday withstood the omega effect. Superman used heat vision to stop the omega effect as well.

Skyfather level attacks will [b]not work on the Destroyer armor.

And besides the omega effect, what else could Darkseid do to stop the armor? Nothing really. [/B]

The Omega Effect is not a sky father lvl attack. The Omega effect is part of the source. And Superman withstood the Omega Effect becuz he is essential to the universe. This would I assume include his powers as they come from him. Doomsday did not withstand the Omega Effect. He died and came back and surprise attacted DS. DS can do what I already said, use time and space to harder around the Armor and use his TP to dispel loki from the armor.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
The Omega Effect is not a sky father lvl attack. The Omega effect is part of the source. And Superman withstood the Omega Effect becuz he is essential to the universe. This would I assume include his powers as they come from him. Doomsday did not withstand the Omega Effect. He died and came back and surprise attacted DS. DS can do what I already said, use time and space to harder around the Armor and use his TP to dispel loki from the armor.

Why would telepathy do anything? You need powers that affect the soul to harm the being in the Destroyer armor. Darkseid doesn't have that.

Originally posted by Evangel94
Why would telepathy do anything? You need powers that affect the soul to harm the being in the Destroyer armor. Darkseid doesn't have that.

Orly? How can he bring the dead back to life if he can't affect the soul? Besides, The Time/Space thing is a win for DS. After the armor stops moving completely, DS simply OE's it away.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Orly? How can he bring the dead back to life if he can't affect the soul?

Does he have soul based attacks that can bypass the armor and hurt the being inside the armor?

Plus your power has to be greater than the being inside the armor to dispell them.

Originally posted by Evangel94
Does he have soul based attacks that can bypass the armor and hurt the being inside the armor?

Plus your power has to be greater than the being inside the armor to dispell them.

DS's power is easily beyond Loki's. And the OMEGA effect has been shown to simply go around or Teleport to the intended victim. Also, The Spectre is a soul being is he not? And he certainly was harmed by DS. I gather anyone can be hurt by the OE. Even Superman has been hurt by the OE. Maybe not killed, but certainly hurt by it.

considering the fact that the Celestials just destroyed the Destroyer armor with no effort i'd say it was no were near Celestial level.

Originally posted by Superherovandal
considering the fact that the Celestials just destroyed the Destroyer armor with no effort i'd say it was no were near Celestial level.

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Considering the fact the Destroyer had to face NINE celestials (the entire fourth host), it's a little presumptuous to make that call.

The Destroyer was a match for ONE celestial.... BUT was ganged up upon and was taken out by NINE of them.

but it was also powered by the entire Asgardian patheon including Odin and it had the Uni-Mind as well. whilst now it only has Loki and no Uni-Mind.

Originally posted by Superherovandal
but it was also powered by the entire Asgardian patheon including Odin and it had the Uni-Mind as well. whilst not it only has Loki and no Uni-Mind.

Thus making this battle as easy for DS as I have said all along.

Originally posted by Superherovandal
but it was also powered by the entire Asgardian patheon including Odin and it had the Uni-Mind as well. whilst now it only has Loki and no Uni-Mind.

Yeah I know, I own the comic after all.

The uni-mind was taken out in one panel or two panels. The battle was almost entirely about the Destroyer.

You said that the Destoyer armor was Destroyed with "no effort". Which is a unfair without mentioning the Destroyer Armor was destroyed by NINE celestials. It gives people the wrong impression.

You should be looking at the fact that he Destroyer gave the celestials pause, and who else has done that? Although it didn't hold out against nine of them, who else could go up against nine celestials? The fact that the Destroyer is still around today is a testament to how invulnerable and duarable it is.

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And to nvrbeenwthagirl,

The Destroyer Armor always has a baseline power of above skyfather level regardless of how weak the person is inside.

Can can Darkseid's Omega Effect overpower the magic of the combined magic enchantment of EVERY pantheon on Marvel Earth? Considering Superman and Darkseid took the omega effect, probably not.

Plus how exactly is Darkseid going to defend against The Destroyer's destructive blast the blew a whole in the celestial barrier the fourth celestial host made?

Originally posted by Evangel94
Yeah I know, I own the comic after all.

The uni-mind was taken out in one panel or two panels. The battle was almost entirely about the Destroyer.

You said that the Destoyer armor was Destroyed with "no effort". Which is a unfair without mentioning the Destroyer Armor was destroyed by NINE celestials. It gives people the wrong impression.

You should be looking at the fact that he Destroyer gave the celestials pause, and who else has done that? Although it didn't hold out against nine of them, who else could go up against nine celestials? The fact that the Destroyer is still around today is a testament to how invulnerable and duarable it is.

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And to nvrbeenwthagirl,

The Destroyer Armor always has a baseline power of above skyfather level regardless of how weak the person is inside.

Can can Darkseid's Omega Effect overpower the magic of the combined magic enchantment of EVERY pantheon on Marvel Earth? Considering Superman and Darkseid took the omega effect, probably not.

Plus how exactly is Darkseid going to defend against The Destroyer's destructive blast the blew a whole in the celestial barrier the fourth celestial host made?

A Superman is protected by the source. So he can't even be used. DS doesn't have to destroy the armor. A good Encasement will do. Or BFR. DS has destroyed Thousands of pantheons and absorbed thier power. Im sure he can over power all of Earths pantheons. The Destructive blast is a problem. But considering DS has survived a blast from the spectre and spectre>>>>>>>>>>>>the armor's beam, Yeah, DS wins.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
A Superman is protected by the source. So he can't even be used. DS doesn't have to destroy the armor. A good Encasement will do. Or BFR. DS has destroyed Thousands of pantheons and absorbed thier power. Im sure he can over power all of Earths pantheons. The Destructive blast is a problem. But considering DS has survived a blast from the spectre and spectre>>>>>>>>>>>>the armor's beam, Yeah, DS wins.

Originally posted by darthgoober
Wait, I thought that Spectre's blast disintegrated DS?

And he regenerated.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
And he regenerated.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
A good Encasement will do. Or BFR.

By encasing the destroyer or using bfr, that just admits Darkseid can't destroy it head on.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
DS has destroyed Thousands of pantheons and absorbed thier power. Im sure he can over power all of Earths pantheons.

Did Darkseid defeat all those thousands of Pantheons by himself or did he use his armies as well? And moreover did Darkseid defeat them all by himself at the same time? This is just between Darkseid and the Destroyer Armor with no armies to back Darkseid up.

And Marvel's Pantheons are not push-overs, they are a lot stronger than their DC counterparts. So could he take all of Marvel's Pantheons at the same time? No.

Originally posted by darthgoober
Not under his own power. The Source brought him back there's a difference.

It's no differnt than Lobo's invulernability. IT's still a part of the character.

Originally posted by Evangel94
By encasing the destroyer or using bfr, that just admits Darkseid can't destroy it head on.

Did Darkseid defeat all those thousands of Pantheons by himself or did he use his armies as well? Did he defeat them all at the same time? This is just between Darkseid and the Destroyer Armor.

And Marvel's Pantheons are not push-overs, they are a lot stronger than their DC counterparts. So could he take all of Marvel's Pantheons at the same time? No.

Alot stronger than thier DC counter parts? where did you get this notion from? where is your proof? Also, DS absorbed the power of the pantheons he destroyed. THousands of them. So yeah, he can over power earth's pantheons' combined might.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
It's no differnt than Lobo's invulernability. IT's still a part of the character.