Originally posted by Darth Sexy
Considering Nai said Yoda can disarm darkside objects
And where does he do this again? Much less neutralize something equipped on another Force user, who - in regards to the Force - is no drop in the bucket himself?
I vaguely recall the argument as it was awhile ago, but I do know that he claimed this, however I don't quite remember him actually proving it (not that he didn't; I'm just not looking it up).
Edit:
I looked it up (even though I said I'm not going to), and I would have to assume you're referring to where Nai says this in the previous Yoda vs. Kun thread:
"And as I said before the Power of the Jedi sourcebook states that Yoda did have the ability to remove the Dark Side from nexus points which would technically include Kun's amulets."
I have the Power of the Jedi Sourcebook, yet I see nothing that says this. Yoda doesn't even have the skill thats description resembles what he said, which would be "Force Light". And that only removes dark side taints from sites/locations and destroys dark side spirits. So, I'll need a page number if I missed it.
Yoda has shown the ability to restrict Dark Side objects and nexuses. Cases in point: Dathomir and Dagobah.
Kun doesn't have much a shot against Yoda. Moreover, those blasts have never been put to the test against someone good as Yoda. Seriously, now, against Mace, Yoda or Luke, Kun is rather outmatched against the best Jedi.
Since PoD came out, he's no longer that special of a Sith...hell, I thnk I still have the Veitch quote on Kun and Yoda...
Yoda can block energy. He can blocks lots of energy. He can move a lot faster than Kun has been demonstrated to move and he's studied holocrons of Sith since ancient days to form his techniques against them, in addition to having confrontations with them before.
When you take everything Yoda as shown, a gary-stu character like Kun has little chance
Originally posted by Lightsnake
Yoda has shown the ability to restrict Dark Side objects and nexuses. Cases in point: Dathomir and Dagobah.
Kun doesn't have much a shot against Yoda. Moreover, those blasts have never been put to the test against someone good as Yoda. Seriously, now, against Mace, Yoda or Luke, Kun is rather outmatched against the best Jedi.
Since PoD came out, he's no longer that special of a Sith...hell, I thnk I still have the Veitch quote on Kun and Yoda...Yoda can block energy. He can blocks lots of energy. He can move a lot faster than Kun has been demonstrated to move and he's studied holocrons of Sith since ancient days to form his techniques against them, in addition to having confrontations with them before.
When you take everything Yoda as shown, a gary-stu character like Kun has little chance
What is this "Kun doesn't have much of a shot"? What are you basing this on? Yoda restricting Dark side objects and all that doesn't exist until you find the quote, and seeing as how Advent can't, it's speculation. So Kun has his double blade, his raw force abilities, and his amulet blasts. No, I think Kun stands a VERY good chance to beat Yoda. Kun is outmatched in YOUR opinion, and it's AGAIN, highly unlikely that anyone can stop his limitless amulet blasts.
Dagobah and Dathomir?
No, Kun doesn't have much a chance.
Yoda's force abilities>Kun's. Yoda's saber skills>Kun's
All Kun has are those amulets. Which can probably be dodged/blocked/eflected by a Jedi of Yoda's caliber. Seriously, now...Kun doesn't use his amulets anyways. Moreover. even Luke blocks one of them in the Glvoe of Darth Vader series (Albeit it's only later retconnedthat Vader's glove is a Sith amulet, but still)
Lightsnake, stop with the PT fanboyism and anti KOTOR bias. Kun was the most powerful of his time, a saber prodigy, and has amulet blasts. So once again, he has MORE than a good chance. Also, stop with your bullshit hypothetical nonsense. "Well this this and that can PROBABLY be blocked because they're PT Jedi!!" It doesn't work in a debate, it didn't work yesterday, and it doesn't work today.
Blah, blah, blah fanboyism. YOu have no right to ever tell anyone about that. Kun was te most powerful of his time? A saber prodigy? Amulet blasts he never used again? Wow, two out of the three for Yoda who's displayed more poer and skill!
They can be blocked because they rely on the force and use energy. Period.
Yoda could hardly handle Sidious' lightning, which is nowhere near as destructive as the amulet blasts. There's no way Yoda would be able to block them, and he's not quick enough to dodge them given the blast's size and speed. And even if he could block them or dodge them, the amulet blasts are limitless, he wouldn't be able to block/dodge them forever, whereas Kun could just carry on doing it until Yoda makes a mistake or tires...
Face it, Yoda's toast.
Oh, you mean hardly handle the most powerful Sith who ever lived?
Right there in the Complete Visual Dictionary, btw, I'll ask escape for the exact page number: Greatest master of evil ever to use Sith power.
And Yoda is able to block blasts from all sides from an army of elite battle droids, he's the strongest Jedi to that point, and frankly you have NO proof of this limitless, instant, size of speed at all! Funnier when you consider Yoda's inferiors beat a race of these amulet users and Luke was able to nullify the effects of one himself shortly post ROTJ
Whoops, sorry, you stupid liar!
Originally posted by Lightsnake
Blah, blah, blah fanboyism. YOu have no right to ever tell anyone about that. Kun was te most powerful of his time? A saber prodigy? Amulet blasts he never used again? Wow, two out of the three for Yoda who's displayed more poer and skill!They can be blocked because they rely on the force and use energy. Period.
I don't mean to be mean lightsnake but are you braindead? Your use of logic flies out the window when you establish yourself to be a KOTOR fanboy.. So here it is
You keep using irrelevant feats or playing feat wars to somehow justify your piss poor arguments. You saying they were never used again is another example of your ridiculous fanboyism. Who cares if they were never used again? He has shown the ability to use them, why would he need to use them again? That's like saying "oh well Sidious never used his instakill on anybody but that means he can't!" You see how retarded you sound? And yes, Kun was the most powerful of his time. And if you take what your bud KJA said, which you usually do when it's convenient for you, Kun and Sidious would fight for most powerful sith lord of all time. But lightsnake, how can Yoda easily defeat Kun and lose to Sidious if Kun and Sidious could possibly be the strongest sith ever? That's right lightsnake.
Logic>Fanboyism and stupidity. Something you're showing more and more daily.
Originally posted by Kadesh
Damm vader had a sith amulet on his right glove? That clearly puts vader > exar kun,Vader has the amulet, vader has shown us stronger feats and more devastating powers than Kun did
How does that put Vader>Kun? You do realize Kun is superior to Vader right? Do you have any details on the amulet? You do know that not all amulets are the same right? Some of you seem to think that more sources=more power.