Originally posted by Soljer
Thor can absorb mystical energies from the Juggernaut to beat him. He can also beat the shit out of the Hulk if he uses even SLIGHTLY 'exotic' powers.And the Juggernaut can't be hurt by physical force, which is all the Hulk can deal out. So he'll never be going down to the Hulk.
dUDE hAVE you seen them fight?
because I have and let me tell ya that Juggy gives Hulk respect while he shits on Thor. Hulk punches Juggy straight out while Thor can only transport either one of them in a dimension and leave them there.
Originally posted by LordFear
Yeah dream the **** on will ya.
I don't give a shit what you airheads think. Ain't no effing chance in Hell Thor is stronger than Juggy and HUlk.
I didn't say shit about strength, now did I?
If Thor uses Mjolnir's more exotic and mystical powers, he obliterates guys like the Juggernaut or the Hulk.
And Juggernaut is impervious to physical harm. Physical harm is all the Hulk has at his disposal - so the Juggernaut is impervious to the Hulk.
Thor is still > Juggernaut who is still > the Hulk.
Originally posted by Soljer
I didn't say shit about strength, now did I?If Thor uses Mjolnir's more exotic and mystical powers, he obliterates guys like the Juggernaut or the Hulk.
And Juggernaut is impervious to physical harm. Physical harm is all the Hulk has at his disposal - so the Juggernaut is impervious to the Hulk.
Thor is still > Juggernaut who is still > the Hulk.
disagree. Juggy is not impervious completely. Juggy gets his ass knocked off a couple of times against Hulk. So much so that at one point Juggy got back up to pound Hulk not realizing that he had his helmet knocked off and Prof X zapped him.
War Hulk knocked the daylights out of Juggy and was eating Juggy's punches and had Juggy pindown. I HAVE NEVER SEEN THOR use his hammer in any exotic ways to take Juggy down. Not even in the Eighth day story ark when Juggy was Trion
Originally posted by LordFear
disagree. Juggy is not impervious completely. Juggy gets his ass knocked off a couple of times against Hulk. So much so that at one point Juggy got back up to pound Hulk not realizing that he had his helmet knocked off and Prof X zapped him.
War Hulk knocked the daylights out of Juggy and was eating Juggy's punches and had Juggy pindown. I HAVE NEVER SEEN THOR use his hammer in any exotic ways to take Juggy down. Not even in the Eighth day story ark when Juggy was Trion
You said yourself - professor X mindraped the Juggernaut. Something that the Hulk CANNOT do.
Also, War Hulk hardly 'knocked the daylights' out of the Juggernaut. He merely tripped him. What a gaudy feat, hm?
Not to mention the fact that Thor HAS used his hammer to remove the Juggernaut's mystical enchantment on at least one occasion. That was also back when Thor had the sixty second time limit, which was the only thing that saved the Juggernaut from eradication.
Originally posted by Soljer
You said yourself - professor X mindraped the Juggernaut. Something that the Hulk CANNOT do.Also, War Hulk hardly 'knocked the daylights' out of the Juggernaut. He merely tripped him. What a gaudy feat, hm?
Not to mention the fact that Thor HAS used his hammer to remove the Juggernaut's mystical enchantment on at least one occasion. That was also back when Thor had the sixty second time limit, which was the only thing that saved the Juggernaut from eradication.
WHOA WHOA WHOA. Do not downgrade what he did. he did NOT TRIP him. That is a lie. He sent him flying through a building downtown. Tripped him? where did you get that crap from?
Can I have the issue and volume of that feat please with Thor?
Originally posted by LordFear
WHOA WHOA WHOA. Do not downgrade what he did. he did NOT TRIP him. That is a lie. He sent him flying through a building downtown. Tripped him? where did you get that crap from?
Can I have the issue and volume of that feat please with Thor?
Thor respect thread. Also - common knowledge.
Thor has sent Juggs to another dimension in their first fight.
Thor cut off most of his magic in the second fight and was about to take his ass out. He just sent him away with his hammer after.
Now Thor vs Hulk... Thor has stalemated Hulk at least 3 times before with just brute strength.
First fight, was it, Thor got his hammers enchantments turned off.
Another time when Hulk wanted Thor to drop the hammer.
He stalemated Hulk for like an hour in Hulk's mindless stage.
When Thor uses his hammer, he gets stomped against Hulk... shitty writing indeed.
Thor is never written good, in a Hulk fight, unless he goes Physical with him, and even then, it is just punching each other, with no skill at all.
When Thor has his hammer, it's like he has never seen the damn thing in his life.
Thor and Hulk fights are only good, if you think Hulk is above Celestial like characters, and the like... which I hope you don't.
Hulk is way more durable and stronger than Thor. Hammer or no hammer, belt or no belt.
Thor is more powerful, that's true, but he can only beat an enraged Hulk by using his brains, strength and Mjolnir, not just by using his fists, because that wouldn't help. It would only make Hulk stronger.
And Thor vs Juggernaut ? Thor always has Big Problems when facing Juggernaut.
Originally posted by Kid KurdyNo one has argued about Thor being as strong, just not as strong.
Hulk is way more durable and stronger than Thor. Hammer or no hammer, belt or no belt.Thor is more powerful, that's true, but he can only beat an enraged Hulk by using his brains, strength and Mjolnir, not just by using his fists, because that wouldn't help. It would only make Hulk stronger.
And Thor vs Juggernaut ? Thor always has Big Problems when facing Juggernaut.
Not sure if that was classic Abom or not, but back then, he wasn't such a pussy even if he wasn't classic.
Yes, but when Hulk goes h2h with Thor, they stalemate. Is this a case of being way stronger? Also, Thor fighting smart without his hammer could probably take out Hulk (check Ragnarok, not the Rune King Thor one, before you say it).
Yes, it is true that Thor has had problems with Juggs, but he has also beaten a normal Juggs on every occasion (or twice).
As Soljier pointed out, in the second fight, Juggs would have had his ass handed to him without a bfr, if Thor didn't have the 60 second rule.
It's better to change this thread, who could beat Hulk with pure physcial strenght?
I always thought Hulk was written too good, I mean he beat opponents based on his power, strenght, and he beat more powerful and versatile opponents solely relaying on his strenght.
He is often written too good. You cannot win against powerful beings, being so one dimensional.
Originally posted by Xplosive
It's better to change this thread, who could beat Hulk with pure physcial strenght?I always thought Hulk was written too good, I mean he beat opponents based on his power, strenght, and he beat more powerful and versatile opponents solely relaying on his strenght.
He is often written too good. You cannot win against powerful beings, being so one dimensional.
Euh strenght is not his main power it's his anger, every ability of him well get better not only his strenght so his emotions is his main weapon, without it he would be like abomination.
But I have to agree that he shouldn't be able to beat people who can fly or have range attacks, or anything els that could hurt him without h2h with the hulk very easy.
Re: Who can beat an Enraged(savage) Hulk?
Originally posted by hulk10
I was wondering who can beat the Universes strongest being savage.
agreed hulk is the strongest being of the universe, anyone knows it
do you mean a really enraged hulk like the one who beat Onslaught in the slugfest ?
.... in this case, no one could beat him (not counting Living Tribunal or maybe Celestials)
hulk, at this level of rage, becomes a cosmic being, the blow that broke Onslaught's armour would kill anyone in the universe who has not a cosmic being level
(for all hulk detractors: deal with it, it's marvel trade mark: hulk - if enraged- > anyone else )
Re: Re: Who can beat an Enraged(savage) Hulk?
Originally posted by DevilGoblin😂 😆 🤣
agreed hulk is the strongest being of the universe, anyone knows itdo you mean in a really enraged hulk like the one who beat Onslaught in the slugfest ?
or in this case, no one can beat him (not counting Living Tribunal or maybe Celestials)
hulk at this level or rage is a cosmic being, the blow that broke Onslaught's armour would kill anyone in the universe who has not a cosmic being level
(for all hulk detractors: deal with it, it's marvel trade mark: hulk - if enraged- > anyone else )
This needs to be profiled.
Where's bigbran when you need him?
Originally posted by bigbran
No one has argued about Thor being as strong, just not as strong.
Does this tell anything?
Not sure if that was classic Abom or not, but back then, he wasn't such a pussy even if he wasn't classic.Yes, but when Hulk goes h2h with Thor, they stalemate. Is this a case of being way stronger? Also, Thor fighting smart without his hammer could probably take out Hulk (check Ragnarok, not the Rune King Thor one, before you say it).
Yes, it is true that Thor has had problems with Juggs, but he has also beaten a normal Juggs on every occasion (or twice).
As Soljier pointed out, in the second fight, Juggs would have had his ass handed to him without a bfr, if Thor didn't have the 60 second rule.
you and Soljier are hulk detractors, anyone here knows it, but thanks for your biased anti-hulk comments; you make laugh tons of comic boards..... 😂
p.s. when Thor fights the hulk without hammer, he dies horribly (see Hulk annual 2001, thor was dead in the ground, if the hulk had finished his fight thor would be dead now)
Originally posted by Soljer
You said yourself - professor X mindraped the Juggernaut. Something that the Hulk CANNOT do.Also, War Hulk hardly 'knocked the daylights' out of the Juggernaut. He merely tripped him. What a gaudy feat, hm?
Not to mention the fact that Thor HAS used his hammer to remove the Juggernaut's mystical enchantment on at least one occasion. That was also back when Thor had the sixty second time limit, which was the only thing that saved the Juggernaut from eradication.
Warhulk beat horribly Juggernaut. Plot deviced saved his ass or Warhulk would have cut his head with the blade.
Warhulk is a weapon to stop the celestials.
When you'll study the stuff we'll talk again.
Originally posted by Soljer
I didn't say shit about strength, now did I?If Thor uses Mjolnir's more exotic and mystical powers, he obliterates guys like the Juggernaut or the Hulk.
only if you write the story
All Mjolnir powers did nothing to HUlk's durability.
Again, go and study the stuff before talking.