Odin/Infinity Guantlet & Thanos/Cosmic Cube vs Lucifer/DC

Originally posted by Galan007
However,

Lucifer manipulated this power to a greater degree imo.

The reason being,

He created a Multiverse from nothingness.

So did Thanos.

Thanos completely erase the Multiverse,

and then created a New Multiverse that was almost the same as the old one.

With a few differences,

like the Universal Flaw in 616 was gone,

and Thanos also implamented a New Cosmic law,

Death becoming permanent, no more unnatural resurrections,

unless it's in their powerset. (like Mr Immortal)

Originally posted by Galan007
However,

Lucifer manipulated this power to a greater degree imo.

The reason being,

He created a Multiverse from nothingness.

Thanos also Erased and must of re-created the LT.

As we know the LT holds MegaverseS in one hand.

Originally posted by Mr Master
So did Thanos.

Thanos completely erase the Multiverse,

and then created a New Multiverse that was almost the same as the old one.

With a few differences,

like the Universal Flaw in 616 was gone,

and Thanos also implamented a New Cosmic law,

Death becoming permanent, no more unnatural resurrections,

unless it's in their powerset. (like Mr Immortal)

Thanos just put back what was already there, and changed a few things.

Originally posted by Galan007
Lucifer created a Multiverse from nothingness.

Thanos just put back what was already there, and changed a few things.

Actually,

there was nothing there.

"Nothing Remained"

Thanos Re-creates the Multiverse from nothingness:

It may have been the same likeness of the previous Multiverse,

but it was a New Multiverse nontheless.

Originally posted by Mr Master
Actually,

there was nothing there.

"Nothing Remained"

Originally posted by Mr Master
Thanos Re-creates the Multiverse from nothingness:

It may have been the same likeness of the previous Multiverse,

but it was a New Multiverse nontheless.

Actually there's a little more to this cropped scan.... If you post the whole page, it's not as cut and dry as you make it seem. 🙂

Or I can post the whole page if you wish. 🙂

Btw brother G,

that's not Thanos's big moment,

absorbing the LT far outclasses his feat of re-creating Reality.

Originally posted by Galan007
If I eat a slice of pizza and throw it up, did I just create a pizza slice from nothingness? ❌

You eat a slice of pizza and throw it up,

if it's still a slice of pizza instead of mushed cheese and bread,

that would be impressive.

Not a solid analogy brother G. 🙂

Originally posted by Galan007
Actually there's a little more to this cropped scan.... If you post the whole page, it's not as cut and dry as you make it seem.

Or I can post the whole page if you wish.

Enlighten me.

"The time has come for the final resurrection"

res·ur·rec·tion (rĕz'ə-rĕk'shən)
n.

The act of rising from the dead or returning to life.
The state of one who has returned to life.
The act of bringing back to practice, notice, or use; revival.

"The cancer will be eradicated from the Patient (Universe)"

Thanos didn't have to recreate a completely new Patient (Universe), he just had to give what was already there a sort of cosmic chemotherapy:

Originally posted by Galan007
"The time has come for the final [b]resurrection"

"The cancer will be eradicated from the Patient (Universe)"

Thanos didn't have to recreate a completely new Patient (Universe), he just had to give what was already there a sort of cosmic chemotherapy:

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In plain english:

"I perceived Reality's sole hope for salvation,

the Cure lay in starting over from scratch"

Doesn't get much clearer than that:

"from scratch" 🙂

Originally posted by Mr Master
In plain english:

"I perceived Reality's sole hope for salvation,

[B]the Cure lay in starting over from scratch"

Hey, there's that word you were using for LCF,

"from scratch" 🙂 [/B]

Other panels contradict this one. 😉

Originally posted by Galan007
"in plain english"

Other panels contradict this one.

I'm wondering which one?

Thanos said Reality had to start over from scratch. (On Panel)

Thanos absorbed eveything until nothing remained. (On Panel)

Thanos created a Reality from a void of nothingness. (On Panel)

shrug

Originally posted by Mr Master
I'm wondering which one?

Thanos said Reality had to start over from scrath. (On Panel)

Thanos absorbed eveything until nothing remained. (On Panel)

Thanos created a Reality from a void of nothingness. (On Panel)

shrug

He "eradicated the cancer from the patient" in the process.

Originally posted by Galan007
He "resurrected" what was already there.

What was there?

"Nothing Remained"

Originally posted by Galan007
He "eradicated the cancer from the patient" in the process.

Actually, there was no way of fixing the Universal flaw:

Which is why Thanos said:

"I perceived Reality's sole hope for salvation,

the Cure lay in starting over from scratch"

The ONLY way to fix the Cosmos,

was to erase the damaged Cosmos, and create a New Cosmos (the same)

but without the flaw and some changes.

Originally posted by Mr Master
What was there?

"Nothing Remained"

Actually, there was no way of fixing the Universal flaw:

Which is why Thanos said:

"I perceived Reality's sole hope for salvation,

[B]the Cure lay in starting over from scratch" [/B]

Thanos went on the say...

"The cancer will be eradicated from the patient (Universe)":

So apparently there was fixing the Universal flaw. 🙂

Originally posted by Galan007
But again,

Thanos went on the say...

"The cancer will be eradicated from the patient (Universe)":

So apparently there was fixing the Universal flaw.

Yes,

the Universal flaw was fixed when a completely New Reality (representing the old one) was created.

"the Patient"

is the Reality with a flaw, he's re-creating the same Reality just anew.

So I'm not surprised by that statement.

Originally posted by Mr Master
Yes,

the Universal flaw was fixed when a completely New Reality (representing the old one) was created.

"the Patient"

is the Reality with a flaw, he's re-creating the same Reality just anew.

So I'm not surprised by that statement.

"The cancer will be eradicated FROM the patient"

Ok. 🙂

Remember to that Thanos uses the word "resurrection", by definition that word contradicts your opinion on this matter.

But 'tis all good, this is starting to get boring and repetitive.

Originally posted by Galan007
That's what you think this statement implies?:

"The cancer will be eradicated FROM the patient"

Ok.

And you think this statement implies that Reality was still there when it was illustrated getting erased on panel.

Ok 🙂

Originally posted by Galan007
Remember to that Thanos uses the word "resurrection", by definition that word contradicts your opinion on this matter.

I disagree.

I think I posted sufficient relevant scans that,

show Thanos trying to fix the flaw and failing,

Thanos says that only by re-creating Reality from "scratch" will fix it,

Thanos absorbs eveything until nothing remained, ("scratch"😉

Thanos re-creates everything depicted on panel by a flow of energy coming from his body blowing outward, as the energy expands so is Reality created.

All I was trying to understand is where was the "patient" you're talking about?

Was it the Void?

Was it erased from existence?

Was it within Thanos, if so as what? (energy or actual matter)

If it was stored within Thanos, when he released it, did it create Reality on it's own?

Or was Thanos the sculptor?

(imo, it was Thanos because he changed Cosmic Laws)

These are legitimate questions imo.

IMO, it was as it was in the arc,

Reality couldn't be fixed because of a problem (flaw)
Reality had to be erased,
Reality had to be created again anew, without the problem (flaw)

This reminds me of the UN, that's what the UN did in the Abraxas arc, create a Multiverse in which Abraxas never manifested, it's the same Reality as before, but recreated to a moment where Abraxas didn't go free (that would be one where Galactus never died)

Meh, it's ok for us to disagree, this is actually fun for a while, great ideas on both camps are posted, which is always an entertainment for the onlookers. 🙂

Originally posted by Galan007
But 'tis all good, this is starting to get boring and repetitive.

I agree.

I think there's enough info coming from the left and right for others to make an educated guess.

Originally posted by Mr Master
And you think this statement implies that Reality was still there when it was illustrated getting erased on panel.

Ok 🙂

I'm not saying Thanos didn't absorb/erase reality in it's entirety, because we both know he did.

What I mean, is simply that he didn't recreate an entirely new reality, [as Lucifer did].

Instead he just "resurrected" the old reality, and made a few changes to it. 🙂

Originally posted by Mr Master
I agree.

I think there's enough info coming from the left and right for others to make an educated guess.