Beyonders and Infinites, are they the same

Originally posted by Prof S.T.I.
Thats ironic because the phoenix has never demonstrated such power, ON PANEL. Shes usually a mid rank cosmic character, i.e. on the same level as a G.L. She was killed by Magneto, don't you know ?

On panel she cut away at the substance of time, amputating the future of 616 and fatally wounding Eternity. Such a feat was unprecedented in Marvel. Yes people have manipulated time, within the boundaries of the chronal axis, forwarded, it reversed it and so on but she actually cut away at its substance. She then manipulated the matter of the entire universe at an atomic level, materializing it in the palm of her hand.

When she needs to the girl can throw down 😱

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
On panel she cut away at the substance of time, amputating the future of 616 and fatally wounding Eternity. Such a feat was unprecedented in Marvel. Yes people have manipulated time, within the boundaries of the chronal axis, forwarded, it reversed it and so on but she actually cut away at its substance. She then manipulated the matter of the entire universe at an atomic level, materializing it in the palm of her hand.

I've heard this was off Panel in X-men forever ?

And Babes i bet you can throw down when you want to ... 😉

Originally posted by Prof S.T.I.
No you're logic isn't solid, you're clearly suggesting that the cubes are more powerful than the beyonders.

A better analogy would be; a human creating a hamster wheel, to see if the hamster will use it. Are humans not alot more powerful than hamster wheels.

No im not suggesting that at all. Because in reality we dont know how the T B's compare power wise to their experiments and that was my point.

Galan claimed that the Cubes were illustrative of the power of the TB's just because they were their experiments, which lead to me illustrating how powerful experiments were not necessarily representative of the inherent power of the masterminds behind them.

My logic was sufficient. 😉

Originally posted by Prof S.T.I.
I've heard this was off Panel in X-men forever ?

Well u heard wrong then my friend. That is why you should always research into things yourself as opposed to swallowing whatever you come across on the forum.

Ive forgotten which one of the duo you are so i dont know whether to be nice or condescending 😉

Originally posted by GalacticStorm

Galan claimed that the Cubes were illustrative of the power of the TB's just because they were their experiments, which lead to me illustrating how powerful experiments were not necessarily representative of the inherent power of masterminds behind them.

I don't think my hamster analogy counts as a 'Powerful experiment'. I'm pretty sure our cosmos would seem pretty basic compared to beings as powerful as the Beyonders. You don't undertake Nuclear experiments on hamsters.

Originally posted by Prof S.T.I.
I don't think my hamster analogy counts as a 'Powerful experiment'. I'm pretty sure our cosmos would seem pretty basic compared to beings as powerful as the Beyonders. You don't undertake Nuclear experiments on hamsters.

😉 Got you sussed.

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Ive forgotten which one of the duo you are so i don't know whether to be nice or condescending 😉

Oh god not more bloody sock accusations. Is everyone so lame on here that they have to resort to them. I might as well go back to the other forums, you don't get the same level of desperation.

Originally posted by Prof S.T.I.
Oh god not more bloody sock accusations. Is everyone so lame on here that they have to resort to them. I might as well go back to the other forums, you don't get the same level of desperation.

So how are the studies going?

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
😉 Got you sussed.

Does that mean youre up for cyber sex ? 🙂

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
So how are the studies going?

I left school a long time ago (After GCSE's), in Hedingly (outside of Leeds). I got bullied for being clever and liking comics. Why are u changing the subject Please could u answer the question.

Originally posted by Prof S.T.I.
Does that mean youre up for cyber sex ? 🙂

After dinner maybe.

Bedtime for me now anyway. Nite nite. 🙂

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
After dinner maybe.

Bedtime for me now anyway. Nite nite. 🙂

Youre having Dinner in bed ? How Willy Wonka of you.

Originally posted by Prof S.T.I.
Galactus used it in the Thanos mini aswell.

Any way : Is everyone too pretentious in here to answer a newbies question ?

didn't like the mini series, hunger looked silly 😮‍💨

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Galan claimed that the Cubes were illustrative of the power of the TB's just because they were their experiments, which lead to me illustrating how powerful experiments were not necessarily representative of the inherent power of the masterminds behind them.

Is Silver Surfer more powerful then Galactus? Afterall Galactus is the one who endowed Surfer with the power cosmic.

It works both ways my friend. 😉

Originally posted by Galan007
Wait, so things creatures create are ALWAYS more powerful then the creature itself?

Is Silver Surfer more powerful then Galactus? Afterall Galactus is the one who endowed Surfer with the power cosmic.

It works both ways my friend. 😉

My analogy of the hamster was better ! 😛

Originally posted by Prof S.T.I.
My analogy of the hamster was better ! 😛

😛

Originally posted by Galan007
Wait, so things creatures create are ALWAYS more powerful then the creature itself?

Is Silver Surfer more powerful then Galactus? Afterall Galactus is the one who endowed Surfer with the power cosmic.

It works both ways my friend. 😉

True, it does work both ways. His opinion was that just because the True Beyonders created the cosmic cubes doesn't mean they are automatically more powerful than the cubes. I'm inclined to agree. They may be more powerful and they may not be. There's no proof leaning either way.

Galactus created Silver Surfer and he dwarfs SS in power. At the same time, The Hive created Adam Warlock, and they are nothing to him. Like you said, works both ways.

Originally posted by celestialdemon
True, it does work both ways. His opinion was that just because the True Beyonders created the cosmic cubes doesn't mean they are automatically more powerful than the cubes. I'm inclined to agree. They may be more powerful and they may not be. There's no proof leaning either way.

Galactus created Silver Surfer and he dwarfs SS in power. At the same time, The Hive created Adam Warlock, and they are nothing to him. Like you said, works both ways.

The true Beyonders may be weaker then the cosmic cubes, or they may be more powerful. It's inconclusive at best.

True Beyonders are definitely FAR more powerful than even Cosmic Containment Units, which with ONE you can create a Universe.

LT, Eternity, Lord Chaos & Master Order observe two specific creation of the True Beyonders.

Living Tribunal calls the Beyonders, "the INFINITE"

"Minute bits of of their Energy" from the True Beyonders, created Post-retcon Molecule Man & Post-retcon Beyonder.

When those "Minute bits of Energy" battle:

"from the Quantum to the Trans-Multiversal, Reality trembles as the forces unleashed reverberate through out creation"

Realize how ALL Reality is falling apart because of them, (both are POST-Retcon).

A WATCHER even goes blind in another Universe.

Not to mention if POST Ret-con Beyonder were to die, the entire Multi-verse would suffer:

"to rend the Life Force of such a being as the Beyonder"

"Havoc unthinkable would be wrecked across Multiversal Cosmography"

ALSO:

Thanos became a Full blown Universe with ONE Un-evolved Cosmic Cube (Cosmic Containment Unit)

SO if a "Minute bit of Energy" is capable of this, imagine just ONE Full True Beyonder, and there's an entire Race,

How many?

I don't know.