Thanos vs. Despero H2H

Started by darthgoober14 pages

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
I dont' argue DC biased Look carefully at my arguments. I only argue for DC characters that everyone seems to dump on. IF you pay close attention, everyone tries to make the spectre less than The LT, they try to make Thanos equal to DS when DS has clearly shown more showings. They try to make SIlver surfer better than Hyle jordan or kyle. When he's about equal. I'd say they have higher showings when non jobbing. it is very evident that many people try to make dc look weaker. they even tried to say dc's universes were weaker. I had to get them together on that end as well. When my arguments do pan out, people kinda just leave them alone and never give me any credit. Heck, I even sometimes want to argue for marvel characters, but who can do that with the rampant DC hate here?

Oh yeah, about the whole strength of PC DC universe thing, it's ALWAYS been said that the universe's replicated. So that's not really a recton in 52.

Originally posted by darthgoober
Oh yeah, about the whole strength of PC DC universe thing, it's ALWAYS been said that the universe's replicated. So that's not really a recton in 52.

I said that. I said the universes replicated and didn't split anymore. But they just wouldn't believe me.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
I said that. I said the universes replicated and didn't split anymore. But they just wouldn't believe me.

No, I mean that even in the original crisis, they were referred to as replicating. So the Infinite Crisis didn't recton the strength of the universe's.

Originally posted by darthgoober
No, I mean that even in the original crisis, they were referred to as replicating. So the Infinite Crisis didn't recton the strength of the universe's.

But the universe never split anymore. Krona was punished for releasing Entropy. Not splitting the universe. So it was never any more weakened universes.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
But the universe never split anymore. Krona was punished for releasing Entropy. Not splitting the universe. So it was never any more weakened universes.

No your wrong. See, even in Crisis on Infinite Earths, the universe was said to have replicated. So that means that the statement that the universe was replicating in 52 doesn't change anything. The source of the replication was rectonned, but the fact that the universe was still regarded as replicating in 52, means that the strength remains the same. That's not to say that the DC WON'T recton it in more detail soon, but for now things stand as is.

Originally posted by darthgoober
No your wrong. See, even in Crisis on Infinite Earths, the universe was said to have replicated. So that means that the statement that the universe was replicating in 52 doesn't change anything. The source of the replication was rectonned, but the fact that the universe was still regarded as replicating in 52, means that the strength remains the same. That's not to say that the DC WON'T recton it in more detail soon, but for now things stand as is.

No listen to what I"m saying. In the original crisis, it was explained that krona had Split the original universe thus creating a multiverse of weaker Universes from the original. Now that he didn't split the universe, there is no more weaker than Theory as it wasnt split. It replicated. So the Strenght of the original was replicated and nOt split.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
No listen to what I"m saying. In the original crisis, it was explained that krona had Split the original universe thus creating a multiverse of weaker Universes from the original. Now that he didn't split the universe, there is no more weaker than Theory as it wasnt split. It replicated. So the Strenght of the original was replicated and nOt split.

Yes it said it was spit, but it ALSO said that it replicated. The scan for it is in that post I maid about the Anti Monitor.

Originally posted by darthgoober
Yes it said it was spit, but it ALSO said that it replicated. The scan for it is in that post I maid about the Anti Monitor.

The Krona Retcon says that he never split the universe. IT clearly says he released entropy into the Universe. Thus killing a billion years of the universes life. He was punishe for this. The multiverse was later explained as a creation of the Presence when the Spectre held it in his hand and talked about the over lapping realities of infinity the he awed at. Krona was punished originally for splitting and "weakening" the universes. No longer does that apply. The entire weak universe theory is out of the window with the krona retcon.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
The Krona Retcon says that he never split the universe. IT clearly says he released entropy into the Universe. Thus killing a billion years of the universes life. He was punishe for this. The multiverse was later explained as a creation of the Presence when the Spectre held it in his hand and talked about the over lapping realities of infinity the he awed at. Krona was punished originally for splitting and "weakening" the universes. No longer does that apply. The entire weak universe theory is out of the window with the krona retcon.

The only recton concerns the SOURCE of the split. The universe was said to have replicated back in COIE, so the recton doesn't affect what I was saying.

Originally posted by darthgoober
The only recton concerns the SOURCE of the split. The universe was said to have replicated back in COIE, so the recton doesn't affect what I was saying.

BUT the specific detail of the universe splitting and becoming weaker was specific to that story. This is why Krona was punished. The weakening of the universes is not-cannon anymore.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
BUT the specific detail of the universe splitting and becoming weaker was specific to that story. This is why Krona was punished. The weakening of the universes is not-cannon anymore.

Where does it say specifically that his crime was weakening the universe?

Originally posted by darthgoober
Where does it say specifically that his crime was weakening the universe?

The entire story has been retconned. You can't take the detail you want to remain becuz it backs you up. THe Splitting of the universe NEVER happened. The Universe Never was split by Krona. Thus every single detail that belonged to that story is also gone. Unless it's specifically stated AGAIN that there was a split and it weakened the universe, then the universe was never split and thus never turned into "weaker" universes.