Johnny Thunder is overrated as hell on this board.
People who haven't read the books see that he's an imp, think Mxy in the Worlds Funniest, and automatically make him the universal destroyer that he never was.
I'd give Strange odds for the easy majority over Jakeem and his genie.
Dr. Fate is nice and all, but Hector isn't that great........yet.
He did defeat Mordu, but everybody has their high ends.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
huh? All I did was name the same amount of people that the IW has. Unless I miscounted. But the IW is easily Matched or beaten by a few beings from DC. as a Matter of Fact, let me make a thread about it. 🙂
Actually no. Don't. The team you named obviously wins. I never said they wouldn't. The original stipulation was you telling me that 1 person from the JLA could beat IW.
But thanks for completely ignoring my point. Kudos for attempting to make yourself look sweet in an debate where you've done nothing but misinterpret my words.
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Originally posted by DigiMark007
Actually no. Don't. The team you named obviously wins. I never said they wouldn't. The original stipulation was you telling me that 1 person from the JLA could beat IW.But thanks for completely ignoring my point. Kudos for attempting to make yourself look sweet in an debate where you've done nothing but misinterpret my words.
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I misinterpreted you. I thought you meant, name 1 for 1 who could beat the IW. I never said anyone person from the JLA could beat the IW. Unless you count someone ampted up like Klye Ion or something like that. It was a mix up. nothing more.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
I misinterpreted you. I thought you meant, name 1 for 1 who could beat the IW. I never said anyone person from the JLA could beat the IW. Unless you count someone ampted up like Klye Ion or something like that. It was a mix up. nothing more.
Your extremely stupid. 😐
Originally posted by Soujaboy
Yea it happened...Did you ever consider that maybe it was SmvsFL when Despero defeated the JLA?
But he has beaten the JLA many times its not sMvsFL when its consistent with Continuity.
Despero has been shown to be capable of being a high end team wrecker Thor has not.
You really can't compare the two
Originally posted by DigiMark007
Actually no. Don't. The team you named obviously wins. I never said they wouldn't. The original stipulation was you telling me that 1 person from the JLA could beat IW.But thanks for completely ignoring my point. Kudos for attempting to make yourself look sweet in an debate where you've done nothing but misinterpret my words.
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way to be fair digi
I'm not really sure how this a debate. At best Thor is as strong as Superman. Despero can man handle multiple Superman level characters at the same time.
I'm going to go with Despero on this one. Despero man-handled captain marvel and superman at the same time, Thor even when berserk is going to have a severely hard time on this match.
I've seen Despero only in JLA: Another Nail. Superman positively creamed him, along with his bad-guy buddies. Hardly the powerhouse I see in the above.
Thor would mop the floor with Des.
Originally posted by Devil Lance
But he has beaten the JLA many times its not sMvsFL when its consistent with Continuity.Despero has been shown to be capable of being a high end team wrecker Thor has not.
You really can't compare the two
Hulk too has been consistently displayed ad a "team wrecker", still however characters are believe to job to him in their battles.
Wolverine has consistently shown that he can hang and take punishment from the top tiers of Marvel, still however people will argue to the end that characters job to him.
Need I go on?
Originally posted by Soujaboy
Hulk too has been consistently displayed ad a "team wrecker", still however characters are believe to job to him in their battles.Wolverine has consistently shown that he can hang and take punishment from the top tiers of Marvel, still however people will argue to the end that characters job to him.
Need I go on?
So then Thanos being shown to consistantly beat TOp tiers and beign a team wrecker would mean characters then JOb to him as well?
Originally posted by Soujaboy
Hulk too has been consistently displayed ad a "team wrecker", still however characters are believe to job to him in their battles.Wolverine has consistently shown that he can hang and take punishment from the top tiers of Marvel, still however people will argue to the end that characters job to him.
Need I go on?
No you reallly don't 🙄
there are sevral flaws to your theory
Hulk since his creation has been shown to be very strong , have a very powerful healing factor, very durable, but also very slow when compared to other top ties he also can't fly . This makes people think it is improable for him to beat people like Thor, Ironman, and Wonderman because of his lack of speed and flight which those heroes have in abundance. Which makes most people think that the majority of those figthts that he wins against those types of characters are because of the other characters jobbing.
Same with wolverine his powerset makes it hard for many people to beleiev that he can beattop tier heroes/villains.
Deespero on the other hand has a powerset that makes it beleive able for him to be a team wrecker. He like hulk ha sgreat strenght however his is good enought to manhandle the likes of Martian Manhunter. Great durability good enough to take hits from various member sof the jlA at the same time, and while he is on the slow side compared to other top tiers he can teleport which more than make for his speed. He also can fly and has uber tp (good enough to beat Martian Manhunter and Aquaman in a telepathich battle at the same time
So in other words Despero's powerset makes his feats beleivable while Hulk and Wolverine's powerset don't
Originally posted by Devil Lance
No you reallly don't 🙄there are sevral flaws to your theory
Hulk since his creation has been shown to be very strong , have a very powerful healing factor, very durable, but also very slow when compared to other top ties he also can't fly . This makes people think it is improable for him to beat people like Thor, Ironman, and Wonderman because of his lack of speed and flight which those heroes have in abundance. Which makes most people think that the majority of those figthts that he wins against those types of characters are because of the other characters jobbing.
Same with wolverine his powerset makes it hard for many people to beleiev that he can beattop tier heroes/villains.
Deespero on the other hand has a powerset that makes it beleive able for him to be a team wrecker. He like hulk ha sgreat strenght however his is good enought to manhandle the likes of Martian Manhunter. Great durability good enough to take hits from various member sof the jlA at the same time, and while he is on the slow side compared to other top tiers he can teleport which more than make for his speed. He also can fly and has uber tp (good enough to beat Martian Manhunter and Aquaman in a telepathich battle at the same time
So in other words Despero's powerset makes his feats beleivable while Hulk and Wolverine's powerset don't
I hope you don't believe that by posting various "smilies" your going to somehow intimidate, or discredit me.
With that said, I'm not entirely sure what relevance your post has to my point, but so be it. My intention was only to point out that there's a possibility that the teams Despero faced off against may have jobbed. Just as teams do when facing an enraged Hulk or when top tiers face off against Wolverine. However believable the writer makes it is irrelevant if it contradicts previous showings of the character.
The Blood and Thunder arc was a well written and believable story. However, this didn't somehow exclude Infinity Watch as being jobbers during the series.
Originally posted by Soujaboy
I hope you don't believe that by posting various "smilies" your going to somehow intimidate, or discredit me.With that said, I'm not entirely sure what relevance your post has to my point, but so be it. My intention was only to point out that there's a possibility that the teams Despero faced off against may have jobbed. Just as teams do when facing an enraged Hulk or when top tiers face off against Wolverine. However believable the writer makes it is irrelevant if it contradicts previous showings of the character.
The Blood and Thunder arc was a well written and believable story. However, this didn't somehow exclude Infinity Watch as being jobbers during the series.
IW totally Jobbed in that story. Worlock alone is a ***** to beat becuz of that soul gem.