Originally posted by Soujaboy
I wouldn't put him on Thanos lv. Not yet, not until he's shown to be a universal threat. However my opinion can be swayed, however not by him physically defeating the JLA.
he doesn't mean on thanos' lvl as a universal threat. that comes from thanos intelligence. he means in strength lvl.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
he doesn't mean on thanos' lvl as a universal threat. that comes from thanos intelligence. he means in strength lvl.
How does Thanos defeat7 5% of the characters he faces? he defeats them in a battle of wits. Thanos is a threat not only because of his power, but because with his mind he can wisely use it.
This is what separates Thanos from the rest of the bunch, what his mind has been shown capable of.
Originally posted by Howard_Jones
He's just not as knowledgable. Powerwise, they're in the same ballpark.
Not really. TP wise Thanos is superior, Strength wise Thanos is superior(remember Thanos can infinitely increase his strength with his cosmic power), durability wise Thanos is superior, etc. Thanos also posses cosmic powers and abilities, something Despero doesn't have the luxury of possessing.
Originally posted by Soujaboy
Not really. TP wise Thanos is superior, Strength wise Thanos is superior(remember Thanos can infinitely increase his strength with his cosmic power), durability wise Thanos is superior, etc. Thanos also posses cosmic powers and abilities, something Despero doesn't have the luxury of possessing.
I'm not saying Thanos isn't more powerful. That's not even a question. I'm saying they're in the same ballpark. It's kinda like comparing Hulk to Immortal Herc. They're in the same ballpark powerwise, but Hulk is more powerful without a doubt.
Originally posted by Soujaboy
Not really. TP wise Thanos is superior, Strength wise Thanos is superior(remember Thanos can infinitely increase his strength with his cosmic power), durability wise Thanos is superior, etc. Thanos also posses cosmic powers and abilities, something Despero doesn't have the luxury of possessing.
How do you know thanos is superior Tp wise? How do you know he's stronger? IF he can infinitely increase his strength, that would mean he had infinite power to do so. So your wrong on that end. Sorry. You need an infinite powersource to infinitely increase your strength. Despero also has the flame of Pytar. He just never uses it.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
How do you know thanos is superior Tp wise? How do you know he's stronger? IF he can infinitely increase his strength, that would mean he had infinite power to do so. So your wrong on that end. Sorry. You need an infinite powersource to infinitely increase your strength. Despero also has the flame of Pytar. He just never uses it.
Well for one Moondragon with the Mind Gem could only read his mind after he allowed her to.
Moondragon with MG >>>>>>>> Despero's TP
Hulk to can infinitely increase his strength, also true with Mangog, and currently Thor. Just because a character has the potential to infinitely increase a specific power that doesn't mean they will ever reach that potential. Just in case you haven't noticed, I'm gonna take this time to point out that a slew of characters have been said to have unlimited/infinite strength.
Which means what? what has it done?
Originally posted by Soujaboy
Well for one Moondragon with the Mind Gem could only read his mind after he allowed her to.Moondragon with MG >>>>>>>> Despero's TP
Hulk to can infinitely increase his strength, also true with Mangog, and currently Thor. Just because a character has the potential to infinitely increase a specific power that doesn't mean they will ever reach that potential. Just in case you haven't noticed, I'm gonna take this time to point out that a slew of characters have been said to have unlimited/infinite strength.
Which means what? what has it done?
There is a differnce between the two, unlimited strength just means they can keep getting stronger. Infinite stregnth would belong to beings who are universal in power. YOu really can't just say Moondragon's Tp is superior to despero's. HE's taken over planets with his mind as well. I just dont' see a proper way to come up with that equation other than pure speculation or fanboyism. Hulk increases his strength becuz it comes from an infinite power source. the gamma dimenstion. I have never seen thor be able to increase his strength infinitely. if he can, it's not of his own power, but some external source like some kind of magic. Thanos does not have infinite cosmic power to increase his strength indefinitely.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
There is a differnce between the two, unlimited strength just means they can keep getting stronger. Infinite stregnth would belong to beings who are universal in power. YOu really can't just say Moondragon's Tp is superior to despero's. HE's taken over planets with his mind as well. I just dont' see a proper way to come up with that equation other than pure speculation or fanboyism. Hulk increases his strength becuz it comes from an infinite power source. the gamma dimenstion. I have never seen thor be able to increase his strength infinitely. if he can, it's not of his own power, but some external source like some kind of magic. Thanos does not have infinite cosmic power to increase his strength indefinitely.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
There is a differnce between the two, unlimited strength just means they can keep getting stronger. Infinite stregnth would belong to beings who are universal in power. YOu really can't just say Moondragon's Tp is superior to despero's. HE's taken over planets with his mind as well. I just dont' see a proper way to come up with that equation other than pure speculation or fanboyism. Hulk increases his strength becuz it comes from an infinite power source. the gamma dimenstion. I have never seen thor be able to increase his strength infinitely. if he can, it's not of his own power, but some external source like some kind of magic. Thanos does not have infinite cosmic power to increase his strength indefinitely.
Potential to infinitely increase = Unlimited
Yes, yes I can. The MG gives her the major edge.
Well if you picked up the last issues of Thor, you would know that Thor inherited the Odin Force yet again. He now understands how to use it to it's fullest seeing as how he now posses the rune magic and "knowledge beyond knowledge".
If you didn't know that Thanos has the power to infinitely increase his strength, than there's a problem.
Originally posted by Soujaboy
Potential to infinitely increase = UnlimitedYes, yes I can. The MG gives her the major edge.
Well if you picked up the last issues of Thor, you would know that Thor inherited the Odin Force yet again. He now understands how to use it to it's fullest seeing as how he now posses the rune magic and "knowledge beyond knowledge".
If you didn't know that Thanos has the power to infinitely increase his strength, than there's a problem.
How can Thanos infinitely increase his strength with no infinite source? Thanos is not infinite and niether is his power. It has to come from somewhere.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
How can Thanos infinitely increase his strength with no infinite source? Thanos is not infinite and niether is his power. It has to come from somewhere.
He draws his power from an extra-dimensional source. I has been spoken of on panel, so I'm curious to what the problem is.
Originally posted by Soujaboy
He draws his power from an extra-dimensional source. I has been spoken of on panel, so I'm curious to what the problem is.
I need to see the panel. The Silver surfer draws his power fromt he power cosmic, which is every where and infinite, and I don't see him amping his strength up infinitely. As of now, This thread us about despero and thor and Despero cleary is Superior to Thor.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
I need to see the panel. The Silver surfer draws his power fromt he power cosmic, which is every where and infinite, and I don't see him amping his strength up infinitely. As of now, This thread us about despero and thor and Despero cleary is Superior to Thor.
I'm sorry it says nearly limitless.