EVANGEL94's 2nd SLUGFEST TOURNAMENT: Scoobless VS StarsNeverFall7 (Vote Now!)

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
I've read up on this one. And I safely say that not only does EMP not effect human beings, but it won't affect the TO virus either. Magneto was not able to shut it down with EMP, why should this pulse do it? Still on the fence overall.

In a 1-1 confrontation, Magneto f*cked Cable up pretty bad...

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Voting Scoobless, based on tactics, counters, and overall team.

Dont think he used or let the rest of the world know on the effectiveness of the Hawkeye's different types of trick/special arrows but alas he still wins. Overall since this is a tournament based on who DEBATED better, and not who seems to us like would win, and seeing as Scoobs presented the case in a logical, persuasive manner I have to vote for him 🙂

Originally posted by Blair Wind
Voting Scoobless, based on tactics, counters, and overall team.

Dont think he used or let the rest of the world know on the effectiveness of the Hawkeye's different types of trick/special arrows but alas he still wins. Overall since this is a tournament based on who DEBATED better, and not who seems to us like would win, and seeing as Scoobs presented the case in a logical, persuasive manner I have to vote for him 🙂

Obviousely it's not a popularity contest and just to clarify, the three things your supposed to consider are (in order or priority)

1. Team: Which team is stronger?
2. Write-Up: Who presented a possible logical winning strategy?
3. Debate: Who brought up points to swing the battle in their favor?

Anyone who get's at least two out of three in your mind, you should vote for.

Originally posted by Evangel94
Obviousely it's not a popularity contest and just to clarify, the three things your supposed to consider are (in order or priority)

1. Team: Which team is stronger?
2. Write-Up: Who presented a possible logical winning strategy?
3. Debate: Who brought up points to swing the battle in their favor?

Anyone who get's at least two out of three in your mind, you should vote for.

And thus far, I think Scoob's team is stronger, his initial write up was more well thought-out and better written, and his debating strategy has been superior.

So, three out of three ain't bad.

So let me understand this, Cable can teleport in the E-Meta category, but Iceman can't use his powers for the same manuver? Makes no sense.

We have an EMP strategy that so far is having no effect on the team.

We have a telepath and a half attempting to tag team Cable and attack Iceman at the same time.

We have a sandstorm that I see no effectiveness in. Then there is also the point of how ANY of either team is going to cover this mass territory if they don't have flight or super speed of any kind.

None of the team protected from this "sandstorm", isn't that what forcefields are for?

Originally posted by Soljer
And thus far, I think Scoob's team is stronger, his initial write up was more well thought-out and better written, and his debating strategy has been superior.

So, three out of three ain't bad.

Also I forgot to add..

4. Terrain: Consider what kind and what size, Which team has the advantage in the current Terrain?

I'm trying to get every voter and poster to understand all the aspects of the battle.

Originally posted by StarsNeverFall7
So let me understand this, Cable can teleport in the E-Meta category, but Iceman can't use his powers for the same manuver? Makes no sense.

Ice-Man doesn't teleport ... you were told his limitations when you drafted him.

Originally posted by StarsNeverFall7
We have an EMP strategy that so far is having no effect on the team.

It's stopping Batman from using gadgets and stopping the use of any advanced weapons/teleporters

Originally posted by StarsNeverFall7
We have a telepath and a half attempting to tag team Cable and attack Iceman at the same time.

No... they are mainly focusing on Cable, Psylocke is armoured and staying back, Mimic is in the air where Ice-Man can't see him ... as soon as a decent opportunity comes up, Mimic will shatter Ice-Man ... either of these attacks would do it:

And before it comes up, he finds him with telepathy.

Originally posted by StarsNeverFall7
We have a sandstorm that I see no effectiveness in.

You don't? anyone who needs to breath will die ina sandstorm if they don't find some type of cover.... and anyone whose eyes aren't protected wont be seeing sh!t.

Originally posted by StarsNeverFall7
Then there is also the point of how ANY of either team is going to cover this mass territory if they don't have flight or super speed of any kind.

Quasar can carry my whole team to wherever they need to go ... Mimic can carry one or two of them as well.

Originally posted by StarsNeverFall7
None of the team protected from this "sandstorm", isn't that what forcefields are for?

How many of your team can keep up a constant forcefield? just Cable? ... and that's only when he isn't defending himself from a TP assault

Originally posted by Blair Wind
Dont think he used or let the rest of the world know on the effectiveness of the Hawkeye's different types of trick/special arrows but alas he still wins.

I didn't think they'd be amazingly useful in a sandstorm.... over long range anyway.

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The armour gives both Hawks an edge in a fight anyway .... and they can always use the arrows as hand held weapons.

I'm changing my vote based on Scoobless winning the debate.

So now were basing this off of a sandstorm that is supposed to effectively cover over half of the battle terrain? Just like the EMP I don't see this working too well.

On a side note this will most likely be close to my last post for this match, I won't be at home or available to a computer until monday or so.

So before it gets ended, good game scoob.

my vote is for stars i've been thinking and I don't think scoobs strategy works (just my opinion) and stars team has more power.

Originally posted by jasofisc
I don't think scoobs strategy works

Why not?

I just don't think the emp i going to do all that much or the sand storm or the psy attacks

I don't think some of you appreciate how devastating a sand storm can be.

"The storm picked up dust in a suspension with winds at speeds of over 120 km/h. Visibility was reduced to less than half a car's length,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dust_storm#Effects

"What's the worst way to go: being buried alive, getting struck by lightning, or being pummeled by flying debris? If you're trapped in a dust storm, you don't have to choose. Dust storms are among nature's most violent and unpredictable phenomena"

http://www.wikihow.com/Survive-a-Dust-Storm-or-Sandstorm

Batman or no Batman ... he's screwed.... same with Batgirl, Spider-Man and Deadpool.

Cable will need all his energy just to protect himself and Ice-Man will be virtually useless.

This particular sand storm (dust storm) will be travelling far faster than any natural phenomenon

yeah but thor could counter it while cable is throwing up a force field to protect the others also if thor can't counter the winds he could just destroy the wind jets

ice man could also throw up an ice barrer all around them

He can't counter it and there's no way he's finding hudreds of wind jets while fighting Quasar..... who can add or replace jets whenever he wants.

Cable will be getting telepathically bashed while this is happening.... I already said all this... did you read it?

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Originally posted by jasofisc
ice man could also throw up an ice barrer all around them

So they can hide behind a stationary wall while choking to death ... then as soon as Cable is distracted Mimic smashes the wall to bits and kills Ice-Man.

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Ok.... that'll do for tonight.

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Originally posted by Scoobless
He can't counter it and there's no way he's finding hudreds of wind jets while fighting Quasar..... who can add or replace jets whenever he wants.

Cable will be getting telepathically bashed while this is happening.... I already said all this... did you read it?

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So they can hide behind a stationary wall while choking to death ... then as soon as Cable is distracted Mimic smashes the wall to bits and kills Ice-Man.

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Ok.... that'll do for tonight.

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I did read it and I don't buy it thor could lite up the sky with lightening so it doesn't matter how many their are. Also thor is can produce more wind then those jets and your statigy is going to be reversed.

cable can take their tp assults and then some

if the wall is all around them they wont be choking to death they will have a confined place to defend.

you have great point I just don't see them happening

Yeah i kinda see what Jasofisc meant, Thor could blanket the battle field w/ wind and thunderstorm destroying those construct and blowing the sandstorm back toward Scoobs team, EMP wouldnt work on Cable but he does go down between the assault of the 2 tp's on Scoobs team...

Still voting for Scoobs, solid arguments...

The Sandstorm isn't going to do much to Deadpool... You know, healing factor and all.

Neither will the TP attacks on DP.

Ive posted stand ups against both the EMP and the "sandstorm" to void them out. Espically with seeing the Quasar can not construct anything during prep on my side of the field, I really dont see the " jet fans" causing ANYWHERE near that kind of sandstorm espically in consideration to the battlefields size.

Id barely put the combination of Psylocke and Mimics 50% Tp on Cables level, even with the TO virus. Not to mention a personal force field that neither Psylocke or Mimic can penetrate, and far surpassing them in arsenal and fighting ability.

We also still seem to be missing the fact of the fog on the field, psylocke and mimic trying both go after cable isn't going to leave them room to be scanning a field to tell anyone anything. This by far gives Batman and Batgirl the advantage to sneak the field and draw opportunity where ever needed to take down as many as possible.

Spider-Man could close his eyes and still fight with his Spidey sense able to mimic almost that of DD's radar. Not to mention he could easily web up a few armored lug heads to get Iced or dealt a few batarangs.

Mimic can have fun messing around with Cable, in the meantime, DP could easily take out the TP Psylocke, her TP isn't going to do anything to him, and I highly doubt her TK attacks are going to far injure him past being able to fight. Not to mention I highly doubt Psylocke or Mimic are going to be in full concentration when you have Peter and Wade, who DONT shut up.

Quasar can do his best with energy attacks and his sheild. The energy attacks are getting no where, and like his constructs, his sheild will eventually go down. In a H2H, Thor isn't letting him get the upper hand.