Originally posted by batdude123
In a 1-1 confrontation, Magneto f*cked Cable up pretty bad...http://img145.imageshack.us/my.php?image=xforce2537vp1.jpg
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I'm going to ask you to leave scans, debates, and interpretations to the competitors. Thank you.
Originally posted by jasofisc
I did read it and I don't buy it thor could lite up the sky with lightening so it doesn't matter how many their are. Also thor is can produce more wind then those jets and your statigy is going to be reversed.
Light isn't going to help him see through sand.
It doesn't matter if Thor does the wind thing as well .... My team all have protective suits ... your guys will still suffocate and die.
Originally posted by jasofisc
cable can take their tp assults and then some
Do you even remember the limits for the character drafting?
Cable in this tourney is nowhere near his normal power levels with or without the "god-like" status.... he's old school Jean Grey at the max ... and Psylocke matches that in telepathy.
Originally posted by jasofisc
if the wall is all around them they wont be choking to death they will have a confined place to defend.
They'd have to be completely shut off .... a full dome around them .... which just means they are all sitting targets and will be screwed when Mimic smashes their little igloo.
Originally posted by King Kandy
The Sandstorm isn't going to do much to Deadpool... You know, healing factor and all.
Healing factor is only really useful when you get a break to heal... the sand storm will be constant.... even DP will have extreme difficulty being effective with his lungs full of sand.
There isn't going to be a sandstorm, like Ive said before trying to use "fans" to cover over 2500 square miles with sand isn't going to happen.
Cable doesn't use that much of his power on the TO virus, it's enough to have to keep his concentration but it doesnt limit him to death. This was his limit when he was drafted, the TO virus. He shouldn't have much trouble with Psylocke and Mimic until DP takes it to Psylocke like a six year old school girl.
Originally posted by StarsNeverFall7
There isn't going to be a sandstorm, like Ive said before trying to use "fans" to cover over 2500 square miles with sand isn't going to happen.
Quasar could cover the entire planet with fans inside the prep time ... or create a fan larger than the planet (not that he'd want to)
Originally posted by StarsNeverFall7
Cable doesn't use that much of his power on the TO virus, it's enough to have to keep his concentration but it doesnt limit him to death. This was his limit when he was drafted
No, every telepath/telekinetic in the tournament (in the E-Meta category) was limited to early version Jean Grey levels ... you really need to pay more attention.
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Originally posted by King Kandy
I know it isn't canon, but X-3 shows what Healing factor works like under constant attack. Phoenix kept Tearing at Wolverine, but Wolverine healed as fast as he got hurt.
And if Wolverine's lungs/eye sockets/any wound had been filled up with sand which would inhibit tissue regeneration that might be relevant ... but they weren't and it's not.
Quasar can't cover the entire planet, why? Because he isn't allowed to do squat on my half of the field during prep time. Again a sandstorm from fans trying to cover 2500 square miles isn't happening.
The EMP isn't going to be doing anything to Cable and he should be more than capable at holding Psylocke and Mimic at bay until DP takes care of Psylocke, after that mimic gets taken out.
Spider-Mans spidey sense gives him the vision that he needs for the fog, and Batmans stealth puts him above either version of Hawkeye. As far as their sheilds, a well timed lighting attack from Thor should take care of these without much effort.
Originally posted by StarsNeverFall7
Quasar can't cover the entire planet, why? Because he isn't allowed to do squat on my half of the field during prep time.
My god, you just can't seem to grasp any of my points.... and I've simplified everything!
Quasar CAN cover the planet ... that's all I was saying, he wont be doing it in this match because of the rules ... and that's the only thing limiting him here..... he CAN create constructs of planetary size and has done so before with energy barriers.... creating a few fans over a couple of thousand miles is so much less than a feat for him that it just seems like desperation when you question it ... the fans are in place, the sand storm is happening, half your team is choking to death ..... Instead of futilely trying to say he can't do it (even though it's ridiculously obvious that he can) why not try to come up with some sort of defence .... not that your team is capable of one.
Originally posted by StarsNeverFall7
The EMP isn't going to be doing anything to Cable and he should be more than capable at holding Psylocke and Mimic at bay until DP takes care of Psylocke, after that mimic gets taken out.
I couldn't care less if the EMP hurts Cable.... the EMP will take out all of your other tech options and that's enough ... a double team of telepathy from Psylocke and Mimic is more than enough to take out Cable ... and yes, he is limited by the tourney rules (as you seem to be constantly ignoring ... not sure if you're doing it deliberately or you're just incapable of paying attention)
DP is so over-matched by Noh-Varr that it isn't even funny .... DP goes down so fast he doesn't even get to crack a single bad joke.
Neither Cable nor Ice-Man is capable of taking out Mimic with his new TP powers.... you lose the E-Meta category ..... badly.
Originally posted by StarsNeverFall7
Spider-Mans spidey sense gives him the vision that he needs for the fog
The fog is so friggin' inconsequential during the sand storm that it isn't worth mentioning ... his spider sense will be going off constantly because his life will be in danger every second he stays out in the open.
You haven't come up with a single plan to say how your team could survive other than creating an ice barrier which is so easily taken out by Mimic that it seems like a wasted effort in the first place.
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Originally posted by StarsNeverFall7
Magneto can manipulate metal, an EMP effects electronics which Cables arm isnt..
Keep focusing on that single irrelevant point ... I mean, if you think it helps you keep the focus off all the other points I've made that show how your team would lose... please .... continue.
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Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Still on the fence. Both guys are utilizing their powers and teams very well. Though Batdude's scans show off some interesting information..... that may just be Magneto's power, rather than showing that EMP can short it out.
The EMP is one of many tactics I'm using .... I am far from dependant on it taking out Cable.
Cable can't even handle Mimic ... he's a non factor in this match.
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You also seem to be missing the point of that none of Quasars constructs can be placed my side of the field, there isn't a sandstorm that is going to be happening. Also your attempting to use an EMP to knock out "tech" that I never brought up in the match, again a mute point.
Your fans half way up the battlefield arn't going to have much effect on the other 2,500 square miles that are on my side of the field. You are going to be far fetched from getting some death sandstorm out of that, annoying breeze maybe, sandstorm no. A fact you constantly seem to be ignoring.
You have yet to come up with something else besides these two things, which in the end do nothing.
Originally posted by StarsNeverFall7
You also seem to be missing the point of that none of Quasars constructs can be placed my side of the field, there isn't a sandstorm that is going to be happening. Also your attempting to use an EMP to knock out "tech" that I never brought up in the match, again a mute point.Your fans half way up the battlefield arn't going to have much effect on the other 2,500 square miles that are on my side of the field. You are going to be far fetched from getting some death sandstorm out of that, annoying breeze maybe, sandstorm no. A fact you constantly seem to be ignoring.
You have yet to come up with something else besides these two things, which in the end do nothing.
🙄 You know, I'm going to be openly hypocritical and post something in a tourney match that helps an opponent. Because, the only logical way this post will net you a win is if Scoobless goes to jump off a bridge out of frusturation.
Quasar ISN'T going to create constructs on your side of the field during prep. He knows that, he's posted that, and yet you seem to cling to that belief like it's a friggin life raft and your drowning. Which you are, metaphorically, but that nonexistant and inconsequential point is not going to save you. Quasar is CAPABLE of creating planetary sized constructs. Is he going to? No. But the fact that he is just proves that he's easily capable of making fans ON HIS SIDE OF THE FIELD that can cause a sandstorm throughout the WHOLE FIELD.
And he just made a post FULL of counter arguments that prove why you're screwed, and what you respond with is an over-used point that was useless to begin with.
However, you have the luxury of an extra day to pull off a win. Please, please don't spend it on this.
Considering like I said trying to use fans to create a deadly sandstorm over 2500 square miles, is highly unlikely. Theres also the factors of Thor using lighting to destroy the constructs, counter the storm, or just completely blanket the entire field in a heavy rain so there is no more sand, but yet an annoying mud.
Then theres that deadly EMP idea, which well considering I didn't bring any use of tech into the match, really did nothing.
Other than that though guess im just screwed then!
Originally posted by StarsNeverFall7
You also seem to be missing the point of that none of Quasars constructs can be placed my side of the field
you seem to have missed the point that I never claimed they would be on your side of the field ... at least until the match starts anyway .... if your team is miles away then I'll Quasar will just add them wherever he wants.
Originally posted by StarsNeverFall7
Considering like I said trying to use fans to create a deadly sandstorm over 2500 square miles, is highly unlikely.
Originally posted by Evangel94
The Mohave Desert is over 22,000 square miles long. Which is roughly 150 miles long and 150 miles wide. Divided in half, your team has to deal with dimensions of 150 miles long and 75 miles wide, which is roughly 11,250 square miles.
You're 75 miles away from the divide at the max .... winds of several hundred miles per hour wont have a problem carrying over that distance ... especially if Quasar keeps popping new jets into existence as he goes.
Originally posted by StarsNeverFall7
Theres also the factors of Thor using lighting to destroy the constructs, counter the storm, or just completely blanket the entire field in a heavy rain so there is no more sand, but yet an annoying mud.
Thor can't destroy things he can't find.... and after Quasar blinds him, train will be the last thing on his mind.
Originally posted by StarsNeverFall7
Then theres that deadly EMP idea, which well considering I didn't bring any use of tech into the match, really did nothing.
Preemptive strike.
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Nothing you have posted so far shows any way for either of your E-Meta guys to take out Mimic ... which is probably because they can't.
The whole rain idea, would be before the Quasar meet up. A rain that wouldn't take anymore than a mere thought.
I also missed the statement on the size of the battlefield, its not just covering winds over 75 miles, its attempting to cover 11,250 square miles with a deadly sandstorm. Its not likely to happen.
Adding them after having to already be in battle? Doubtful.
I will give the benefit of the doubt of Mimic, hes a bit much for anyone to handle by themselves as he has alot of items quickly at his disposal. Either Cable or Iceman, is mainly just to serve a purpose of keeping him busy until help arrives.
Thunder/rain/lightning are normal occurrences during a sand storm ... they aren't going to make a difference.
Square mileage isn't that important ... I've layered my entire side of the divide with fans ... so they only have to get a the wind started and the wind only has to travel 75 miles from the border to cover your entire side of the field.
Ice-Man couldn't stall Mimic for 20 seconds in a fight ... maybe Cable could for a few moments ... until Mimic copies his powers and adds them to his own... then Cable is done.
This shows that not only can Mimic copy powers (as everyone knew) but when he does, he learns about the limits of the person he copied:
So when he copies Cable he knows exactly what he needs to do to beat him.
And half Wolverine healing + half Deadpool healing = >> Wolverine healing
I just threw that in because it shows his speed and I thought it was a sweet scan.
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And to copy Cables powers, what is he giving up?
Thunder/rain/and lighting are normal occurances during a sand storm, in a desert? I would of never of guessed that the combination of sand and water made it sand storm.
When sand is packed down with water, its not going to get blown around in sandstorm like qualities. This would be like me taking a jet engine to the beach right after high tide, the loose *dry* sand yes, the wet sand, no.
