Cyclops vs. Punisher

Originally posted by jgiant
Since when does frank give a fuk, these guys want each other dead and they are going to act like they usually do when faced with an enemy. Frank doesn't hasitate when pulling the trigger and he'll take every precausion and dirty trick he can think of. Scott will think frank is another jerk with a gun and he will be punished for it. Well all frank has to do is get low, hit the deck fast, he might get burnt on his back, and if there is a trench nearby, frank probably survies.

If they each want the other dead, what is stopping Cyke was taking off the visor?

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
So Cyclops brillant strategy is to clear a 100 yard patch of forest in every direction and leave him self standing in the middle of a clearing with no cover for a 100 yards in any direction? Do you need me to tell you why that is a bad idea?

Again, what comic stats that Cyke only has a range of 100 yards?

Originally posted by Silent Master
If they each want the other dead, what is stopping Cyke was taking off the visor?

The ability to use his brain? Cyclops doesn't know how big the forest is and he doesn't know Franks position in the forest. Cyclops isn't going to take of his visor and start randomly laying waste to the forest. He has no idea where Frank is, why on would he give away his position by creating a lot of noise and damage? It doesn't make an sense. Unless he sees Frank he isn't going to take of his visor. Why? Because it isn't even remotely a good idea.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Again, what comic stats that Cyke only has a range of 100 yards?

Look at that picture champ. When Cyclops took his visor off on the front lawn of the mansion he clear away a patch of land that is maybe (maybe) 50 yards. I'm being generous giving him a the 100 yard range, so unless they are fighting in a football field sized forest it isn't a viable option.

Originally posted by Silent Master
And when the hell does the Punisher go around shooting heroes in the head for no reason?

*cough*

http://img465.imageshack.us/my.php?image=untitled14kw7.jpg

What is Cyke's range?

Originally posted by grey fox
*cough*

http://img465.imageshack.us/my.php?image=untitled14kw7.jpg

So you're going on record as stating that is an example of Frank killing a hero for no reason?

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Look at that picture champ. When Cyclops took his visor off on the front lawn of the mansion he clear away a patch of land that is maybe (maybe) 50 yards. I'm being generous giving him a the 100 yard range, so unless they are fighting in a football field sized forest it isn't a viable option.

And it's stated where that that is his max range?

from marvel.com

"the beams effective range is 2,000 feet". how any of you are getting 100 yards is beyond me.

http://marvel.com/universe/Cyclops_%28Scott_Summers%29

So who's winning?

BTW, what’s stopping Cyke was setting traps or finding a place where he can ambush Frank, after he did the same to the X-men including Wolverine when they were mind controlled into thinking he was Dark Phoenix.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Look at that picture champ. When Cyclops took his visor off on the front lawn of the mansion he clear away a patch of land that is maybe (maybe) 50 yards. I'm being generous giving him a the 100 yard range, so unless they are fighting in a football field sized forest it isn't a viable option.

Was that stated ever as his maximum? Was he unable to power it anymore? Or are you making misguided assumptions?

😕 Hmmm...

Originally posted by Silent Master
So you're going on record as stating that is an example of Frank killing a hero for no reason?

It's called humour.

You stated when has punisher shot heroes in the head , and 'Technically' Spidey was the bad-guy in that situation and legally those two were the heroes.

And frank ventilated their skulls

Originally posted by SpunkySmurph
Was that stated ever as his maximum? Was he unable to power it anymore? Or are you making misguided assumptions?

😕 Hmmm...

His visor controls the power and the intensity of the beam, not him. When he takes his visor off he is getting 100% so the fact that the damage didn't go past 100 yards is proof that his maxium range is likely around 100 yards.

Originally posted by grey fox
It's called humour.

You stated when has punisher shot heroes in the head , and 'Technically' Spidey was the bad-guy in that situation and legally those two were the heroes.

And frank ventilated their skulls

So thats a yes?

Originally posted by Madvillain
from marvel.com

"the beams effective range is [b]2,000 feet". how any of you are getting 100 yards is beyond me.

http://marvel.com/universe/Cyclops_%28Scott_Summers%29 [/B]

Originally posted by Silent Master
So thats a yes?

Not exactly , I mean From a legal stand-point there was ' No Reason' for Punisher to shoot them. They were restraining a prisoner , but since they were former villains it's pretty much a death sentence .

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
His visor controls the power and the intensity of the beam, not him. When he takes his visor off he is getting 100% so the fact that the damage didn't go past 100 yards is proof that his maxium range is likely around 100 yards.

and no he wasn't at 100%, the only time he's ever been close to full power was when Bishop was channeling his optic blasts, which could have killed them both.

Originally posted by Madvillain
and no he wasn't at 100%, the only time he's ever been close to full power was when Bishop was channeling his optic blasts, which could have killed them both.

What are you talking about champ? Cyclops was using full power. His brain can't regulate the energy out put of his blasts so with out his visor his blasts default at 100%. And Cyclops has gone full power more then once. You don't honestly think that X-Men: Civil War was the first time?

And if you were wondering the reason why that was damaging to both Cyclops and Bishop was that it was a sustained blast.

Why bother reading comics if you aren't going to pay attention? 😕

And when does cyc ever take off his visor for a guy with guns? He is gunna underestimate frank and go hunting for him, periodically blasting sh!t. Which will give his position away, which will give frank the win.