Cyclops vs. Punisher

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
What are you talking about champ? Cyclops was using full power. His brain can't regulate the energy out put of his blasts so with out his visor his blasts default at 100%. And Cyclops has gone full power more then once. You don't honestly think that X-Men: Civil War was the first time?

And if you were wondering the reason why that was damaging to both Cyclops and Bishop was that it was a sustained blast.

Why bother reading comics if you aren't going to pay attention? 😕

ehh, the marvel.com still states the range at 2,000. i'd take their word over yours any day.

and besides, the blast to the sentinel was a spread blast...it won't be as far as a linear one. common sense.

Originally posted by jgiant
And when does cyc ever take off his visor for a guy with guns? He is gunna underestimate frank and go hunting for him, periodically blasting sh!t. Which will give his position away, which will give frank the win.

Wow... an actually sensible argument for why Frank will win.

Fair enough, jgiant. I'll give Cyclops only 9/10 now. 🙂

well a wide spread blast is the only way cyc has a chance.

Originally posted by SpunkySmurph
Wow... an actually sensible argument for why Frank will win.

Fair enough, jgiant. I'll give Cyclops only 9/10 now. 🙂

Originally posted by SpunkySmurph
Wow... an actually sensible argument for why Frank will win.

Fair enough, jgiant. I'll give Cyclops only 9/10 now. 🙂

Originally posted by jgiant
So if you agree that cyc will probably fallow that strategy in this fight, than how would cyc win?

I think that Cyke, when written properly, has uncanny aim with his visor, being that he only needs to look to shoot at exactly that spot. Punisher, who lacks any sort of super reflexes/speed or anything that could serve as a form of precognition, without PIS, should be toast.

Originally posted by jgiant
And when does cyc ever take off his visor for a guy with guns? He is gunna underestimate frank and go hunting for him, periodically blasting sh!t. Which will give his position away, which will give frank the win.

Give Cyclops some credit. He knows who Frank is, he isn't going to under estimate him and that is the reason he wouldn't take of his visor and do some large scale land scaping. He knows who Frank Castle is, he has at least some idea what kind of training the man has gone through and most of all he knows it is not in his best interests to freely give away his postion. It would be the worst possible thing for Cyclops to give Frank Castle a frame of reference to where he is when he can force him to comb the forest until he finds his trail. This fight his a game of hide and seek, either Cyclops finds Punisher first and he wins or Punisher finds Cyclops first and he wins. 9/10 ten Frank Castle is going to win, he is in his element.

Originally posted by Madvillain
ehh, the marvel.com still states the range at 2,000. i'd take their word over yours any day.

I have trading cards published by Marvel that say that Sabretooth is a better fighter then Captain America. Does that mean anything? No. Why? Because Marvel's handbooks, bios and cards are all companion pieces meant for collectors and roleplay enthusiasts. They aren't "Marvel's official view on the mater," I fact I doubt the editors take more then a casually glance at what is actually written down.

Actually in a recent X-men comic isn't been stated that Cyclops has never used more than a fraction of his full power.

The scans are somewhere on herochat but the search feature isn't working for me right now.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
I have trading cards published by Marvel that say that Sabretooth is a better fighter then Captain America. Does that mean anything? No. Why? Because Marvel's handbooks, bios and cards are all companion pieces meant for collectors and roleplay enthusiasts. They aren't "Marvel's official view on the mater," I fact I doubt the editors take more then a casually glance at what is actually written down.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Actually in a recent X-men comic isn't been stated that Cyclops has never used more than a fraction of his full power.

The scans are somewhere on herochat but the search feature isn't working for me right now.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Actually in a recent X-men comic isn't been stated that Cyclops has never used more than a fraction of his full power.

The scans are somewhere on herochat but the search feature isn't working for me right now.

WIS. If he could control the energy out put of his blasts he wouldn't need his visor. With out his visor he is going all out and there isn't anything he can do about it.

Originally posted by jgiant
Regardless, scott is not using a full blast in this fight unless he is totally out of character.

Really. It would be the same as Cyclops walking through the forest wearing a siren on his head and holding a sign with flashing neon lights. Nothing his going to get him killed faster then giving his postion away with a huge blast.

Originally posted by jgiant
Regardless, scott is not using a full blast in this fight unless he is totally out of character.

Kind of like Frank going around killing heroes for no reason.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
WIS. If he could control the energy out put of his blasts he wouldn't need his visor. With out his visor he is going all out and there isn't anything he can do about it.

He just can't turn them off, it's never been stated that he can't control the level of blast.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Kind of like Frank going around killing heroes for no reason.

He killed Stiltman who was a reformed hero. 😉

Since when has Stiltman been a hero

Originally posted by Silent Master
Kind of like Frank going around killing heroes for no reason.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Since when has Stiltman been a hero