People are forgetting Hulk was literally dying when he faced Apocalypse. His body was collapsing due to circumstances that happened after his fight against Onslaught, and, not only that, he had a shrapnel in his brain that was killing him and giving him split personalities that also had him fatigued and passing the F out consistently. Stop being try hards.
Originally posted by carver9
No, you're ignoring context but don't do the same thing for Superman. Replace Hulk with Superman in this situation and it'll open your eyes.
The irony is delicious.
You're claiming it but not showing it. Of course knowing you being a liar who doesn't admit he's wrong, I would also need the references to read.
But why didn't you respond to what parts I asked? Was he not amped channeling that energy making Apocalypse want to use him to begin with?
I'm going to say this again and I'm done after this. The energy that was entering Hulk was KILLING HIM. Some situations he felt strong and in some situations, he would just pass TF out. Not only that, he had something INSIDE OF HIS BRAIN that was also killing him. What do we consider this? CONTEXT!!! This should not be ignores. I need you to read the comic before I posts scans because at this point in time, his mind being tampered with and him dying should matter. Kind of like Superman being sun amped AND his mind being tampered with when fighting Wonder Woman (and still losing) shouldn't count, right? Difference is, Hulk was dying due to certain circumstances whereas Superman was above the height of his power and still lost.
Originally posted by carver9
People are forgetting Hulk was literally dying when he face Apocalypse. His body was collapsing due to circumstances that happened after his fight against Onslaught, and, not only that, he had a shrapnel in his brain that was killing him and giving him split personalities that also had him fatigued and passing the F out consistently. Stop being try hards.
And he still was powerful enough to walk through anything X-Men threw at him at the X-Mansion...
That's a much better approach than Stoic's, as there's at least some solid evidence to support it.
Keep in mind that despite his vulnerability, at the same time he seemed stronger than ever, though. As Wolverine noted.
Originally posted by Stoic
I’m actually saying that unless Apoc always travels around with Celestial tech, he was prepped for his encounter with the Hulk.
He was prepared for augmenting him and getting himself a new horseman.
He didn't need any prep to easily subjugate him.
His left arm sufficed 😛
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
And he still was powerful enough to walk through anything X-Men threw at him at the X-Mansion...That's a much better approach than Stoic's, as there's at least some solid evidence to support it.
Keep in mind that despite his vulnerability, at the same time he seemed stronger than ever, though. As Wolverine noted.
He was prepared for augmenting him and getting himself a new horseman.
He didn't need any prep to easily subjugate him.
His left arm sufficed 😛
He wasn't consistently that strong though. Sometimes he couldn't even walk. All of the things that happened during that time should 100% be ignored since he powers were jacked tf up.
Originally posted by carver9
I'm going to say this again and I'm done after this. The energy that was entering Hulk was KILLING HIM. Some situations he felt strong and in some situations, he would just pass TF out. Not only that, he had something INSIDE OF HIS BRAIN that was also killing him. What do we consider this? CONTEXT!!! This should not be ignores. I need you to read the comic before I posts scans because at this point in time, his mind being tampered with and him dying should matter. Kind of like Superman being sun amped AND his mind being tampered with when fighting Wonder Woman (and still losing) shouldn't count, right? Difference is, Hulk was dying due to certain circumstances whereas Superman was above the height of his power and still lost.
So it's your job to prove your case and you tell me to read the comics, when you don't even give me the issue numbers to read? This is a fail even by your standards.
Your Xbox gamertag change is far more accurate, your headache inducing stupidity does bring pain.
Originally posted by carver9
He wasn't consistently that strong though. Sometimes he couldn't even walk. All of the things that happened during that time should 100% be ignored since he powers were jacked tf up.
It's a damn good thing that he was wrecking havoc at X-Mansion mere moments before Apocalypse kidnapped him via instant teleportation, then 😎
Originally posted by Classic NES
The air outside the mansion does that to you lol.
Carter has posted an example of someone weakening by the moment losing, then when shown the context argued he only started weakening after losing. I even asked if he was arguing that, because it was so bad I had trouble believing even he would argue it so thought I must have misread him.
It's okay to argue he wasn't at his best - but he was quite capable of taking care of himself.
We work with what we have and that's the only time they've crossed paths.
Unless, of course, we wanted to include Evan-Apoc and Hulk's Hulk a.k.a. Kluh in this discussion:
Guess Hulk is out of luck in this thread 😛