Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
It's okay to argue he wasn't at his best - but he was quite capable of taking care of himself.We work with what we have and that's the only time they've crossed paths.
Unless, of course, we wanted to include Evan-Apoc and Hulk's Hulk a.k.a. Kluh in this discussion:
Guess Hulk is out of luck in this thread 😛
Everytime they've crossed paths or someone with Apoc tech crossed paths with Hulk. The latter has come out worst for it. So, yeah.
Originally posted by Delta1938
So it's your job to prove your case and you tell me to read the comics, when you don't even give me the issue numbers to read? This is a fail even by your standards.Your Xbox gamertag change is far more accurate, your headache inducing stupidity does bring pain.
Had a feeling Wonder Woman was >>>> Superman. She took on him and defeated him while he was amped. Nice talking with you.
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
It's a damn good thing that he was wrecking havoc at X-Mansion mere moments before Apocalypse kidnapped him via instant teleportation, then 😎
Don't think this is how it works. Me and you double teamed people in the past for saying things similar to the things you're doing here when people attacked Wolverine, ignoring context.
He had a piece of metal in his brain and was dying due to circumstances which was also messing with his durability. At least you're not pulling a Delta and you actually know these things happened. Now I just need to convince you that context like this throws our an terrible showing for the character.
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
It's okay to argue he wasn't at his best - but he was quite capable of taking care of himself.We work with what we have and that's the only time they've crossed paths.
Unless, of course, we wanted to include Evan-Apoc and Hulk's Hulk a.k.a. Kluh in this discussion:
Guess Hulk is out of luck in this thread 😛
Lol...never said Apolcalypse couldn't move Hulk but that same Hulk he's punching, wasn't it said no force on Earth could stop him?
Originally posted by carver9
Don't think this is how it works. Me and you double teamed people in the past for saying things similar to the things you're doing here when people attacked Wolverine, ignoring context.He had a piece of metal in his brain and was dying due to circumstances which was also messing with his durability. At least you're not pulling a Delta and you actually know these things happened. Now I just need to convince you that context like this throws our an terrible showing for the character.
But, Carver what does durability have to do with being strong enough to break out of a restraint?
Originally posted by carver9
Don't think this is how it works. Me and you double teamed people in the past for saying things similar to the things you're doing here when people attacked Wolverine, ignoring context.He had a piece of metal in his brain and was dying due to circumstances which was also messing with his durability. At least you're not pulling a Delta and you actually know these things happened. Now I just need to convince you that context like this throws our an terrible showing for the character.
How is it a terrible showing again?
Apocalypse is more powerful than the Hulk in every way.
First scan mention how is Hulk alive, he should be dead...
https://ibb.co/XDwkGp0
Second scan shows his split personality and he almost kills Betty...
https://ibb.co/hmZDdm9
https://ibb.co/NLD71XM
Reaching for his head, split personalities, in pain and then he transforms into Maestro. Will be back with his passing out and sh** (Delta, you're trolling)...
https://ibb.co/4mCj58G
https://ibb.co/sCCdg02
Originally posted by carver9
First scan mention how is Hulk alive, he should be dead...
https://ibb.co/XDwkGp0Second scan shows his split personality and he almost kills Betty...
https://ibb.co/hmZDdm9
https://ibb.co/NLD71XMReaching for his head, split personalities, in pain and then he transforms into Maestro. Will be back with his passing out and sh** (Delta, you're trolling)...
https://ibb.co/4mCj58G
https://ibb.co/sCCdg02
First off, I'm trolling because I'm calling you out on backing down from the challenge you accepted? You do have false bravado. You keep bringing this up like you're trying to get under my skin when you flat out proved you're afraid to BZ me on this.
Now to the scans. All the talk of split personalities, is this some straw grasping attempt to try and trick me because of the Superman vs Wonder Woman topic you get wrecked on? This doesn't hold the same water given how the fight played out. Hulk just got restrained. Even demanded to be let go, showing he couldn't get out. And that's giving Hulk the benefit of the doubt that he's as good a tactician and strategist.
The scans about his condition are much better, but your argument that Hulk wasn't always as powerful as when he wrecked the X Mansion is pretty hard to accept when Stilt says Hulk got teleported right after. This actually is the very hypocrisy you accuse me of, given the opposite stance you took when pimping out Martian Manhunter beating a weakened Ultraman. There we have it pointed out he's getting weaker by the moment. Your own words said Hulk fluctuated in power during this. Why should I believe you that he just suddenly got weaker right after showing how powerful he was?
Had moments of feeling stronger but it took a crap on his durability. He passes out from attacks that usually doesn't register to him...
First set of scans, he is surprised at the attack hurting him and fall to the ground due to the damage...
https://ibb.co/Qb3RMr6
https://ibb.co/mGKKJz5
Second set of scans, he feels stronger but passes the f out.
https://ibb.co/dKB95Ym
https://ibb.co/LZws02x
Explains that even though he is strong, he appears as if he could shatter with the simplest of breeze
https://ibb.co/9hYFT85
Context, context, context. Brain damage along with other crap that's going on with him. Glad this argument is happening. Wonder Woman>Superman. There's more scans of him passing out, etc... but I'm not posting it because this should be enough. He even mentions he is in pain due to the head shards
Originally posted by carver9
Reaching for his head, split personalities, in pain and then he transforms into Maestro. Will be back with his passing out and sh** (Delta, you're trolling)...
https://ibb.co/4mCj58G
https://ibb.co/sCCdg02
Hmmmm... same arc in which he mercilessly kicks Thor's ass, yes? 😛
Thought you wanted to make him look weak? 😉
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
And he still was powerful enough to walk through anything X-Men threw at him at the X-Mansion...That's a much better approach than Stoic's, as there's at least some solid evidence to support it.
Keep in mind that despite his vulnerability, at the same time he seemed stronger than ever, though. As Wolverine noted.
He was prepared for augmenting him and getting himself a new horseman.
He didn't need any prep to easily subjugate him.
His left arm sufficed 😛
But it was exploitative. That’s actually a big deal of alteration. It tells of a false positive at best.
Originally posted by carver9
Sigh...
You not liking reality doesn't invalidate what I said.
Originally posted by carver9
Had moments of feeling stronger but it took a crap on his durability. He passes out from attacks that usually doesn't register to him...First set of scans, he is surprised at the attack hurting him and fall to the ground due to the damage...
https://ibb.co/Qb3RMr6
https://ibb.co/mGKKJz5Second set of scans, he feels stronger but passes the f out.
https://ibb.co/dKB95Ym
https://ibb.co/LZws02xExplains that even though he is strong, he appears as if he could shatter with the simplest of breeze
https://ibb.co/9hYFT85Context, context, context. Brain damage along with other crap that's going on with him. Glad this argument is happening. Wonder Woman>Superman. There's more scans of him passing out, etc... but I'm not posting it because this should be enough. He even mentions he is in pain due to the head shards
None of this actually changes anything I said. If anything I can argue the only issue is Hulk is in pain and he's just a pussy. The shatter with a simple breeze is her opinion, which could be explained by Hulk is in pain and a pussy.
The problem for you is the facts you admitted he at times performed great, Stilt said Hulk had just been wrecking before being teleported, and you're a proven hypocritical liar. In this very thread. Why should I believe you that Hulk facing Apocalypse was one of his moments of weakness when you don't deny the X mansion scene just before, and you argued Ultraman was weakened AFTER losing to Martian Manhunter despite he was away from his power source for two days and getting weaker by the moment?
You don't even acknowledge the hypocrisy of you using that then whining like Veruca Salt not getting her way about context. You only care about context when it suits you, and are absolutely failing to prove Hulk was in his weak moments instead of strong.
And you desperately trying to use Superman vs Wonder Woman ignoring you backed down from my BZ is hilarious as it is pathetic. You keep bringing that up but ignoring you're afraid to BZ it just strengthens the fact that I can't trust you to be honest that Hulk for some reason suddenly had his moment of weakness after being strong because reasons.