[quote]See what I mean Sado. Now one some starts to talk down about you, don't get mad. And talk about owned, You get owned by just about anybody you come up against. Literally[quote]
sure....i'm sure everyone in this forum will agree with you too😉
considering that i never had a hissy tantrum, threw my computer out of the window and started crying when someone says Ayane will beat terry Bogard.
~Sado
P.S. anyone else here get the feeling that Who Else is actually Remulus himself? 😆
well Ryu in Sf 3 third strike is pretty powerfull even he has not much feats. Many fighters in sf universe hasn't much feats but doesn't mean that they are weak..
Ryu in sf 3 third strike is waaay more powerfull then in alpha since he is now a real adult and an expierenced man and already has fought about more then 10.000 battles.
hayabusa pwns Ryu obvious!!!
i still believe that Ryu can beat Hayabusa H2H only. I don't see anything that makes him better besides his speed
but hey it's my opinion 😉 i don't take it so serious like the discussion between Superboy and Remulous ppfff damn
I will not bother countering who-else's posts anymore...because apparentely it's ok to say what Ryu can do without showing proof of what he HAS actually done, but the same cannot be said for Hayabusa.
Double Standard seriously pisses me off.
Edit: On second thought I'll reply since I have nothing better to do right now.
Originally posted by Who else?
He regained his senses. That scenario would never happen in this fight.
Yeah. He regained his senses after he was forcefully put on his ass with one blow from Ken. The same thing can happen in a fight with Hayabusa. Specially considering how Hayabusa is fairly faster than Ryu. Doesn't really take much to roll under a Hadouken like Ken did...better yet he does not need to roll since he can simply teleport while Ryu is performing the move.
Originally posted by Who else?
Were does it show Hayabusa do an unbelievable feat with the DDB?I own both NG and the Black version.
You still don't get it, do you? DDB wielding Hayabusa is not-canon. He simply wielded it for a couple of seconds before destroying it; but even then any feat performed by the DDB throughout the game can be replicated by Hayabusa while wielding it. Anyways since you're asking for a DDB feat...Murai desintegrated Gamov with a clean strike of the evil blade. Besides I think it's about time we stop discussing DDB Hayabusa...since you know I have no interest discussing him in the first place.
Originally posted by Who else?
He can't do the feat with his bare hands because he's never done it, not even in non canon materials, he used the D.Sword, that aint no regular blade, even when it aint in it's true form. It is a stretch if he's never done it, if this is the case, Akuma can blow up earth shattering comets.
Akuma can do whatever he pleases. I am not discussing him. When it's time for Akuma vs Hayabusa I will gladly argue about it, but this is not the case. The D. Sword has no special specs without the gem. Nothing suggests it is any stronger than a regular blade in it's default form. Trying to prove us otherwise will prove to be a futile exercise, so I suggest you don't.
Oh but wait...can >> has? Does it not? It does not matter if Ryu has actually done it...because he can do it. Kind of like people with Evil Ryu's argument about E. Ryu performing the Shungokusatsu in a fight eventhough he has never cannonically done it.
Originally posted by Who else?
Ken's won before, having a better win record doesn't mean undefeated, Ken gets stronger ryu gets stronger, this has been shown through out the series. the fact that you can't even admit that Ryu is now considerably stronger than his old self amazes me.
Well duh...having a better win record doesn't mean undefeated, but it still shows how Ryu has the most wins up to 3rd strike which clearly beats down your argument that Ryu is stronger by 3rd strike because he manages to beat Ken in it. See what I mean? By the way I obviously agree with Ryu being stronger in 3rd strike than in his Alpha days...it would be stupid and would show 0 character development(if there's any for Ryu) What I want is actual proof of how much stronger he is. Because you know...Hayabusa would beat the crap out of Ken faster than Ryu's.
Originally posted by Who else?
Well. . . saying he is terribly behind Akuma is like saying he is terribly ahead of his old self.
I am sorry but featwise Gouki has proven time and again that Ryu is lagging terribly behind him.
Originally posted by Who else?
Point is he's better then that now. I don't know how many times I'm gonna have to say that.
The argument is very logical, you just don't want it to be because you want hayabusa to win.
You don't get it. I have already told you Hayabusa can easily duplicate all of Ryu's SF Alpha Anime feats. The anime feats do not give Ryu the win. So...if he is any better, and he probably is, HOW much better is he? Because he needs to be quite a lot better to defeat Hayabusa. But since he lacks the feats or any showings...he won't be getting any wins. It's as clear as daylight.
Originally posted by Who else?
See what I mean by hostility. It is you who needs to take time to read instead of mindlessly reply. Wtf do I need to look good for, I don't even know any of you people. You got me very misconstrued, buddy.
Tricksterpriest isn't a fanboy for Ryu, so what the hell are you talking about dude?
I am not here to share candy with everyone and start giving blowjobs. So I don't really care about being nice. And if you honestly believe T.Priest is not a fanboy you need to stop posting here. He has shown time and again his love for 2d fighters while at the same time sharing his hate for DOA while claiming at times that 2d fighters are better than 3dfighters because they are 2D. You seriously don't know anything about these forums.
Originally posted by Who else?
I meant that hayabusa can't reproduce the feats cuz he's never done them.
I meant Ryu is stronger then his pass versions because Capcom has said so, which you still don't take into consideration.
So wrong. Ryu has destroyed huge vessels with Chi. Ayane, a peer of Hayabusa, has destroyed a tri-tower complex with Nimpo. He has dodged bullets from all kind of vehicles and guns...so tell me again why won't he be reproducing any of them?
You still fail to understand my point. I will not give Ryu the win simply because Ryu is stronger than what was shown in the anime. I want actual proof of HOW MUCH STRONGER HE IS. That's it.
Originally posted by Who else?
Nimpo would be like their Super art, mean while Ryu is capable of the feat shown with normal special moves in which he can produce several times over and instantaneously.
No. Nimpo would not be like their Super art. For starters if Hayabusa used the Ice Nimpo Ryu would be dead right there. Don't compare them. The Chi blast Ryu performed on the huge aircraft was almost instantaneous, and he has even managed to blast jets with his chi while being airborne and dodging missiles.
Don't make me go on about Hayabusa because all I will do is show you how Hayabusa is in another league.
Originally posted by Who else?
But you did. Ryu's rivalry helps him becomes stronger and this has been shown through out the SFs. In SF2, he couldn't beat ken but in SF3 he does, obvious show of increase in strength since his pass days.
It has not been officially confirmed that Ken beat Ryu in SF2. End of story. I want proof of just how much strong he is. Since you can't really find anything worthwile you'll just keep going around in circles.
Originally posted by Who else?
You and me both, but I remain cool.
Hmm...ok.
Originally posted by Who else?
from what I remember in those threads, you were behind Hayabusa all the way. What am I supposed to see?
*sigh* See? You don't take the time to read. I was all the way behind Hayabusa in that thread. Then E. Ashtar joined the discussion and we argued for several days until he defeated me and I accepted defeat.
Originally posted by Superboy PrimeRyu was unfocused. And you know this, when he was focused he was able to withstand chi blast and everything else.
Yeah. He regained his senses after he was forcefully put on his ass with one blow from Ken. The same thing can happen in a fight with Hayabusa. Specially considering how Hayabusa is fairly faster than Ryu. Doesn't really take much to roll under a Hadouken like Ken did...better yet he does not need to roll since he can simply teleport while Ryu is performing the move.
Originally posted by Superboy PrimePoint is, just because one man did something with the DDB doesn't mean Hayabusa can. If HE did not do it him self, it does not count.
You still don't get it, do you? DDB wielding Hayabusa is not-canon. He simply wielded it for a couple of seconds before destroying it; but even then any feat performed by the DDB throughout the game can be replicated by Hayabusa while wielding it. Anyways since you're asking for a DDB feat...Murai desintegrated Gamov with a clean strike of the evil blade. Besides I think it's about time we stop discussing DDB Hayabusa...since you know I have no interest discussing him in the first place.
Originally posted by Superboy PrimeBringing up Akuma was a good example of what you were saying. What proof is there that the blade is a regular sword with out the gem, didn't it help him when he was slashed down by Doku, in the beginning.
Akuma can do whatever he pleases. I am not discussing him. When it's time for Akuma vs Hayabusa I will gladly argue about it, but this is not the case. The D. Sword has no special specs without the gem. Nothing suggests it is any stronger than a regular blade in it's default form. Trying to prove us otherwise will prove to be a futile exercise, so I suggest you don't..
Originally posted by Superboy PrimeYou are going way off coarse with this, Ryu is capable of wrecking buildings with normal hadoukens, because he was shown doing it, rather it is canon or not, Capcom says it's possible. R.Hayabusa has NEVER been shown being able to split a jet with his bare hands. So CAN<HAS does not work in that situation.
Oh but wait...can >> has? Does it not? It does not matter if Ryu has actually done it...because he can do it. Kind of like people with Evil Ryu's argument about E. Ryu performing the Shungokusatsu in a fight eventhough he has never cannonically done it.
Originally posted by Superboy PrimeDoesn't matter, we still don't know how far behind Ryu is from Gouki. Ryu is a good guy, why would he go around destroying stuff and breaking shit to test his powers? And talk about double standards
I am sorry but featwise Gouki has proven time and again that Ryu is lagging terribly behind him..
Originally posted by Superboy PrimeBlowing up an explosive jet does not equate to defacing a sky scrapper and Ayane has nothing to do with this argument and besides, they used nimpo, is thier greatest attack, Ryu use the Hadouken, his weakest special move.
You don't get it. I have already told you Hayabusa can easily duplicate all of Ryu's SF Alpha Anime feats. The anime feats do not give Ryu the win. So...if he is any better, and he probably is, HOW much better is he? Because he needs to be quite a lot better to defeat Hayabusa. But since he lacks the feats or any showings...he won't be getting any wins. It's as clear as daylight.
Originally posted by Superboy PrimeWell I'm sorry I don't go around digging up info to assassinate somebodies character rather then just out debating the person. So yeah, because I don't read the really old threads I don't no much about the posters past.
I am not here to share candy with everyone and start giving blowjobs. So I don't really care about being nice. And if you honestly believe T.Priest is not a fanboy you need to stop posting here. He has shown time and again his love for 2d fighters while at the same time sharing his hate for DOA while claiming at times that 2d fighters are better than 3dfighters because they are 2D. You seriously don't know anything about these forums..
Originally posted by Superboy PrimeNone of that equates to defacing a sky scrapper with your normal moves and Ayane has nothing to do with this. And you talk about double standards.
So wrong. Ryu has destroyed huge vessels with Chi. Ayane, a peer of Hayabusa, has destroyed a tri-tower complex with Nimpo. He has dodged bullets from all kind of vehicles and guns...so tell me again why won't he be reproducing any of them?..
Originally posted by Superboy PrimeYeah, Nimpo is like their strongest moves and the Hadouken is like Ryu's weakest. If Ryu hit hayabusa with a serious Shinku hadouken, Hayabusa would be obliterated.
No. Nimpo would not be like their Super art. For starters if Hayabusa used the Ice Nimpo Ryu would be dead right there. Don't compare them. The Chi blast Ryu performed on the huge aircraft was almost instantaneous, and he has even managed to blast jets with his chi while being airborne and dodging missiles...
Almost instantaneous is not as good as instantaneous when dealing with projectiles.
Ryu can also doge while chagrining attacks.
Originally posted by Superboy PrimeJust saying, why can't you be cool about this, your not doing anything but typing over the Internet, what's the use of getting bent out of shape over something so meaningless.
Hmm...ok.
Originally posted by Superboy PrimeNo i don't take time to go all the way back and read old 20 paged threads. What you said and did before this thread does not matter. I'm not here to attack your character, if you went for Hayabusa 1, 000, 000, times before this thread I wouldn't care. This thread is what matters now. And after taking some time out I must agree with you. We don't know how much stronger Ryu has gotten and because of that, there is no way we can form a concrete argument for Ryu and because of that, Ryu loses. So there, I have been defeated but every thing I said above still stand with me...
*sigh* See? You don't take the time to read. I was all the way behind Hayabusa in that thread. Then E. Ashtar joined the discussion and we argued for several days until he defeated me and I accepted defeat.
May you drown in the pool of victory.
P.S. I would've given in long ago but because of the annoying instigation of others and your sour attitude, I felt I needed to defend my self.
Originally posted by Who else?He never used Ryu with the Dark Dragon Blade as an argument. Also, anyone wielding the Dark Dragon Blade with the seal broken turns into the Devil Incarnate and inherits the power of the Dark Dragon, who's surpassed Vigoor in power.
Ryu was unfocused. And you know this, when he was focused he was able to withstand chi blast and everything else. Point is, just because one man did something with the DDB doesn't mean Hayabusa can. If HE did not do it him self, it does not count. Bringing up Akuma was a good example of what you were saying. What proof is there that the blade is a regular sword with out the gem, didn't it help him when he was slashed down by Doku, in the beginning. You are going way off coarse with this, Ryu is capable of wrecking buildings with normal hadoukens, because he was shown doing it, rather it is canon or not, Capcom says it's possible. R.Hayabusa has NEVER been shown being able to split a jet with his bare hands. So CAN<HAS does not work in that situation. Doesn't matter, we still don't know how far behind Ryu is from Gouki. Ryu is a good guy, why would he go around destroying stuff and breaking shit to test his powers? And talk about double standards Blowing up an explosive jet does not equate to defacing a sky scrapper and Ayane has nothing to do with this argument and besides, they used nimpo, is thier greatest attack, Ryu use the Hadouken, his weakest special move. Well I'm sorry I don't go around digging up info to assassinate somebodies character rather then just out debating the person. So yeah, because I don't read the really old threads I don't no much about the posters past. None of that equates to defacing a sky scrapper with your normal moves and Ayane has nothing to do with this. And you talk about double standards. Yeah, Nimpo is like their strongest moves and the Hadouken is like Ryu's weakest. If Ryu hit hayabusa with a serious Shinku hadouken, Hayabusa would be obliterated. Almost instantaneous is not as good as instantaneous when dealing with projectiles. Ryu can also doge while chagrining attacks. Just saying, why can't you be cool about this, your not doing anything but typing over the Internet, what's the use of getting bent out of shape over something so meaningless. No i don't take time to go all the way back and read old 20 paged threads. What you said and did before this thread does not matter. I'm not here to attack your character, if you went for Hayabusa 1, 000, 000, times before this thread I wouldn't care. This thread is what matters now. And after taking some time out I must agree with you. We don't know how much stronger Ryu has gotten and because of that, there is no way we can form a concrete argument for Ryu and because of that, Ryu loses. So there, I have been defeated but every thing I said above still stand with me... May you drown in the pool of victory.P.S. I would've given in long ago but because of the annoying instigation of others and your sour attitude, I felt I needed to defend my self.
Ryu's Hadoukens wrecked buildings as a result of them being powered up by the Dark Hadou, so it basically took Evil Ryu, who's irrelevant in this match to accomplish that. He nearly killed and was angered by Zangief. I've watched the Alpha movie. You may've not heard this yet but, the fact that what Ryu does in the movie is possible doesn't change the fact that the events in the movie are noncanonical. It's possible for Ryu to become the Devil Incarnate with the blade, even though he hasn't transformed canonically. Bringing up the building feat is basically using Evil Ryu which allows Hayabusa supporters use the D.I., seeing as none of the versions of the characters just mentioned are relevant. Nonetheless, this is an H2H. However, keep in mind Ryu's durability is somewhat poor, seeing as it takes a bottle to make him bleed...Hayabusa's projectiles vaporizes humans instantly, not mention he has a greater reaction time and speed than Ryu, as well as teleportation. Like me and Prime said before, this is like Superman(Ryu) vs. Silver Surfer(Ryu Hayabusa). Both of them can overcome each other, but Surfer(Hayabusa) has more ways of winning the fight.
Originally posted by Who else?
Ryu was unfocused. And you know this, when he was focused he was able to withstand chi blast and everything else.
Yes he was unfocused.
Originally posted by Who else?
Bringing up Akuma was a good example of what you were saying. What proof is there that the blade is a regular sword with out the gem, didn't it help him when he was slashed down by Doku, in the beginning.
It didn't help Hayabusa at all in the beginning. Hayabusa got cleaved in half and died during their first encounter.
Originally posted by Who else?
Blowing up an explosive jet does not equate to defacing a sky scrapper and Ayane has nothing to do with this argument and besides, they used nimpo, is thier greatest attack, Ryu use the Hadouken, his weakest special move.
Nimpo is not Hayabusa's greatest attack.
Originally posted by Who else?
Well I'm sorry I don't go around digging up info to assassinate somebodies character rather then just out debating the person. So yeah, because I don't read the really old threads I don't no much about the posters past.
Common sense dictates you will not defend someone if you don't know them, my friend.
Originally posted by Who else?
Yeah, Nimpo is like their strongest moves and the Hadouken is like Ryu's weakest. If Ryu hit hayabusa with a serious Shinku hadouken, Hayabusa would be obliterated.
Ryu will be hard pressed to actually hit Hayabusa with the Shinku-Hadouken, but yes if he did it would make Ryu victorious.
Originally posted by Who else?
Just saying, why can't you be cool about this, your not doing anything but typing over the Internet, what's the use of getting bent out of shape over something so meaningless.
I'm not really angry. This is just the way I argue. If it disturbs you so much just ignore me.
Originally posted by Who else?
No i don't take time to go all the way back and read old 20 paged threads. What you said and did before this thread does not matter. I'm not here to attack your character, if you went for Hayabusa 1, 000, 000, times before this thread I wouldn't care. This thread is what matters now. And after taking some time out I must agree with you. We don't know how much stronger Ryu has gotten and because of that, there is no way we can form a concrete argument for Ryu and because of that, Ryu loses. So there, I have been defeated but every thing I said above still stand with me...May you drown in the pool of victory.
P.S. I would've given in long ago but because of the annoying instigation of others and your sour attitude, I felt I needed to defend my self.
*Drowns and spams KMC's boards while doing the Superkroyt Anger Victory Dance*
Nice arguing with you, and I respect you defending youself. Not all put up a fight for themselves.
*Extends hand*
Originally posted by Superboy PrimeI too must come back to surrender and admit defeat. But you haven't seen the last of me.
Yes he was unfocused.It didn't help Hayabusa at all in the beginning. Hayabusa got cleaved in half and died during their first encounter.
Nimpo is not Hayabusa's greatest attack.
Common sense dictates you will not defend someone if you don't know them, my friend.
Ryu will be hard pressed to actually hit Hayabusa with the Shinku-Hadouken, but yes if he did it would make Ryu victorious.
I'm not really angry. This is just the way I argue. If it disturbs you so much just ignore me.
*Drowns and spams KMC's boards while doing the Superkroyt Anger Victory Dance*
Nice arguing with you, and I respect you defending youself. Not all put up a fight for themselves.
*Extends hand*