stop talking about yoda as if he is some kinda damn force god its getting annoying, nihilus lifts his ship all the way to orbit yoda on the other hand strains moving those droid carriers into each other I SAW THE DVD I OWN IT HE WAS STRAINING HIS HANDS WHERE TREMBLING. Nihilus would suck his power out and thats all there is to it, you cant prove he cant, and he can just take the jedi down from his darn ship if he wants nobody said he couldnt
Erm... a pre-RotJ Sidious was able to bury an Executor-class ship (which is far larger than Nihilus's own) in the depths of Coruscant, and then he mindwiped the population of the planet to forget what they saw.
And a pre-RotJ Sidious wouldn't own Yoda, so something's telling me that he could very likely replicate the same feat.
Originally posted by Darth Sexy
I don't understand how this translates into Yoda blocking Nihilus' force consumption..
Never said he could. Mider was just getting an erection talking about how Nihilus lifted up the Ravager from Malachor's gravity well. That feat is pretty damn impressive, but like I said, a pre-RotJ Sidious was able to do that on a much larger scale. So Yoda could likely do something similar... unless RotJ Sidious is a mile ahead of Yoda (which I very seriously doubt).
Originally posted by General Kenobl
The Transitive Property Sexy. Yoda is equivalent (or at least on par) to Sidious. Sidious > Nihilus definately, so by Transitive it seems very likely that Yoda > Nihilus and that he can kill him.
Transitive property doesn't even begin to work when you're discussing 1 ability, as opposed to overall skill. Nihilus' 1 ability might surpass everything Yoda has ever done, yet Yoda>Nihilus overall. No sorry bro, it doesn't work here.
I am talking about overall skill. In terms of Force strength and lightsaber skill, Yoda is the better.
Now since Nihilus is not having singular combat and he has 10,000 Jedi at him, he'll most likely resort to the Ultra Death Field, which would kill thousands of the Order. However, could not Yoda put up a Shield to protect himself and let the Ultra Drain slide over him and get someone else. I mean, the Drain would spread out equally across the surface it's going through, and it'll have less damaging strength than in a smaller area. Couldn't Yoda block this with a Shield???
Next, wouldn't the drain also destroy the very turf Nihilus is on {and hurt himself in the process}. I mean, it demolised Katarr. If he was confronted by 10,000 Jedi and he used his wound in the Force, wouldn't it break everything around him including himself?
Originally posted by General Kenobl
I am talking about overall skill. In terms of Force strength and lightsaber skill, Yoda is the better.Now since Nihilus is not having singular combat and he has 10,000 Jedi at him, he'll most likely resort to the Ultra Death Field, which would kill thousands of the Order. However, could not Yoda put up a Shield to protect himself and let the Ultra Drain slide over him and get someone else. I mean, the Drain would spread out equally across the surface it's going through, and it'll have less damaging strength than in a smaller area. Couldn't Yoda block this with a Shield???
Next, wouldn't the drain also destroy the very turf Nihilus is on {and hurt himself in the process}. I mean, it demolised Katarr. If he was confronted by 10,000 Jedi and he used his wound in the Force, wouldn't it break everything around him including himself?
I think you are missing my point. I am talking about Nihilus' natural ability to consume the force, as a result to him being a wound, which surpasses anything a superior force user might have done, but doesn't make him superior himself. In this case we're talking about him and Yoda, and how Yoda does NOT have the ability to block the force consumption.
Originally posted by General Kenobl
Well I am discussing Nihilus and the 10,000 Jedi in front of him. In terms of Nihilus and Yoda, I'll see you in the Nihilus vs. Yoda thread.
No, I don't think Nihilus can drain 10,000 Jedi, considering there are powerful Jedi there. However, I'm not sure that they can defend against his eating ability because it is undefendable(at least in my opinion), but they can counter with a wall of light or something cool while he's trying to eat all 10,000.
Couldn't Windu and Yoda put up Force Shields to have the Drain go around them. The Drain would weaken in wider spaces. While the Death Field was strong enough to destroy Katarr, Yoda and Mace can likely block the Drain around themselves. The Death Field would tire Nihilus, and then Yoda rapes him with his lightsaber.
In additon, Jedi like Tholme and Quinlan can cut themselves from the Force. By not having the Force connection, this also weakens Nihilus.
Not to mention, if Nihilus did do a Drain, it'll kill Sion as well as he'll be Drained from the Force, unless Sion does a powerful Shield as well.
That's what you're misunderstanding. It's not so much as an attack as much as him just being a wound. He has to feed to stay alive so it's more natural than an actual force attack, therefore it isn't treated as a normal force attack, therefore there isn't a normal defense for it, hence the wound in the force being the only defense.
Originally posted by Mider999
snake why don't you stop talking already the verdict is in YOU LOST your argument is pathetic at best, now stop rambling this is why im gonna ask for this thread to be closed cause all you do is say the same stuff over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and did i say you said the same stuff OVER AND OVER causeeeeeeeeeee you do its old you ruin my thread im not a fanboy your obviously living in a fantasy world where if nobody agrees with you your right and there wrong your proof is ZERO and there's is just better GET OVER IT ACT YOUR AGE AND GO HOME THREAD WILL HOPEFULLY BE GONE IN A FEW DAYS
Also, before you ramble on about how pathetic someone's argument is, why don't you take a look at your own grammar? That's pathetic. How is anyone supposed to take you seriously, if you can't even properly end or start a sentence? All you keep saying is, "you lost...you haven't proven shit." , yet you yourself haven't provided anything to make me (or anyone else for that matter) even entertain your opinion. You also, as Escape has said, have rehashed the same tired arguments time and time again. Obviously something that LS has said has gotten to you, or proven you wrong, and you don't like it. Is that why you're trying to insult his debating skills? Out of spite?