Originally posted by Surreal_44
I think that Will is going to stab the heart to save Jack's life. Seriously. I can see that happening in the third film. 😄
Thats what I'm thinking, although I can see Jack's dark side come in to play in AWE. IMO he is going to start mirroring DJ not Will. I think the one thats going to try to stab the heart is Jack and Will is going to prevent it from happening.
Originally posted by Surreal_44
I think that Will is going to stab the heart to save Jack's life. Seriously. I can see that happening in the third film. 😄
Originally posted by Mistypirate
I completely agree with you. I don't know if anyone has heard of a speculation that said that Will is going to team up with the bad guys in order to defeat the pirates. It is said that he will realize what he is doing is wrong. And we will help defeat the bad guys at the end.
I think the same thing....I really do think Will will do it to help Jack!
Originally posted by Mistypirate
Thats what I'm thinking, although I can see Jack's dark side come in to play in AWE. IMO he is going to start mirroring DJ not Will. I think the one thats going to try to stab the heart is Jack and Will is going to prevent it from happening.
I think so too....thus provong that Jack would do something to help save Will's life, but Will stops him and stabbs the heart himself and right b4 Will dies he tells Jack to take care of Liz....or look after her!
I don't think they are going to kill off Will. He is going to be more than alive.
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Something interesting I notice, when DJ first captures Will, when he has all the sailors lined up. When he steps in front of Will he tells him, "you are neither dead or dying". Could that be significant?
I don't think Will is going to stop Jack from stabbing the heart. Since the leaked scripts have indicated that the heart will be on the Dutchman, I suspect that somehow Will and Jack and Barbossa end up in a battle with that ship, and the pirates begin to lose...badly.
So then it becomes similar to the second movie, where people are fighting over the heart, only instead of Jack and Will fighting each other, they are simply fighting to get to the heart before someone steals it. Will gets to the heart and stabs it, knowing what will happen to him, but also knowing that there are no other options available to them.
After he stabs the heart, he'll probably flee, because maybe he won't want Elizabeth to see what happened to him (I don't think he'll become a 'fish face'😉, because he is now doomed to sail forever, and that is not exactly the greatest way to build a relationship.
IF they decide to keep Will immortal.
Otherwise, I think Elizabeth is going to end up dying in the midst of another battle, and this will break the curse on Will. Meanwhile, (spoilers suggest) Norrington, who was mortally wounded while on the Flying Dutchman, will be the new captain, taking Will's place. Then maybe he'll help to bring Elizabeth (and Will) back from the dead.
Pure speculation on my part. But it's fun. Hmmm, we seem to have gotten away from the original intent of this thread.
Um, I still have a hard time envisioning the hat as being anything more than a running gag, mixed in with a bit of symbolism that Jack is not whole without his hat. And no, I don't think Elizabeth's hat is a substitute, especially since he didn't take it. 😆
So we know for sure whoever stabs the heart takes Davy's place? We know that for a fact? The second movie made it sound like without Davy, there wouldn't be a captain and everyone could just go free. If Will's going to stab the heart, I don't think he knows that he could be doomed.
I seriously doubt Liz will die. She's, in a way, the heart of the story. Everyone came together because of her in the first movie, and she's really come into her own by the second movie. It's no longer the trend to kill off the strong woman, and she's the only main woman in the series.
I would honestly rather see her with Will than see her die. Then two people are heartbroken.
I have no idea what's going to happen, but I have my doubts Norrington will make it long enough to get a chance to stab the heart. Once people find out what he did, and they will, there's going to be a lot of people wanting to kill him.
Originally posted by willofthewisp
So we know for sure whoever stabs the heart takes Davy's place? We know that for a fact? The second movie made it sound like without Davy, there wouldn't be a captain and everyone could just go free. If Will's going to stab the heart, I don't think he knows that he could be doomed.I seriously doubt Liz will die. She's, in a way, the heart of the story. Everyone came together because of her in the first movie, and she's really come into her own by the second movie. It's no longer the trend to kill off the strong woman, and she's the only main woman in the series.
I would honestly rather see her with Will than see her die. Then two people are heartbroken.
I have no idea what's going to happen, but I have my doubts Norrington will make it long enough to get a chance to stab the heart. Once people find out what he did, and they will, there's going to be a lot of people wanting to kill him.
I know that for a fact that whoever stabs the heart of Davy will become the next captain of the Flying Dutchman.
i like all this speculation.
i agree that Will may stab the heart in order to save Jack. Will's purity as a character is his main plug. somehow, no matter how sketch he gets, i get the feeling he will be fully redeemed. My thought is that he is 25 steps ahead of everyone and when he seems to betray Jack by trading him for the ship to Sao, and later teams up with the EITC, he's actually got a plan figured out, which is to get the heart back. I dont know. I just dont think Will's darker nature is actually going to be a definate betrayal of his honest streak.
I play with the theory of Will still thinking Elizabeth loves Jack and stabbing the heart in order to save Jack from something, at which point Liz or Jack convinces Calypso to intervene.
While I would prefer Norrington to live, i wonder if his death will be what finally breaks Elizabeth and begins to show her what her actions are doing to those around her, thereby forcing her to make up her mind what she wants and fighting for it.
i am quite certain Elizabeth doesnt die and stay dead. They said bittersweet, not horrific and tragic. i really think all 3 main characters are going to live. this isn't phantom here. am i just being overly optimistic?
I agree partially with Kate about Will having a plan. According to the latest leaked script, he seemed to have planned all along to get captured. I suspect that Will, as intelligent as he is, has a full plan on what is going to happen. Of course, the best laid plans can go horribly wrong, so it will be interesting to see what Will does if things don't go the way he wants.
I think Will definitely stabs the heart, and I suspect that after he does so, he'll find a badly injured Norrington in the hold somewhere (unless Davy has already made James part of the crew).
After the curse is broken for Will, Norrington becomes the new captain of the Flying Dutchman. Of course, perhaps if the curse is lifted, there is no Flying Dutchman at all...in which case, Will and Elizabeth end up together, Jack sails off to do his thing, and Norrington returns to Port Royal to be Admiral or governor of Port Royal. 😄
I do believe Norrington's death or near-death will push Liz more towards accepting how her actions have hurt people.
willofthewisp wrote: I have no idea what's going to happen, but I have my doubts Norrington will make it long enough to get a chance to stab the heart. Once people find out what he did, and they will, there's going to be a lot of people wanting to kill him.
Who'd want to kill him? If anything, Jack, Elizabeth and Will would understand his actions, because they've all been guilty of wanting something above the safety of the others. Based on what I've seen so far, I don't think any person holds him in any lower regard for what he's done, and the fact that he will probably end up sacrificing his life for Elizabeth's would probably raise him in esteem in their eyes.
I don't believe Elizabeth will stay dead, but I do believe that she dies at some point in the movie.
And er...I have to say, although I don't believe that the rumor of what's in the trailer is entirely true, a weeping Will Turner sounds unbelievably hot.