Basically, Mider claimed that 4th age Spawn would plow through most of the Marvel universe, and take out most of the DC universe. He also argued that Image's characters were inherently more powerful and superior to Marvel&DC and that those 2 unverses would not be able to beat Image. Most of the bad grammer is from Mider, I take it? 😇
Originally posted by manjaro
WWHHAATTT!!! ARE U F ****ING INSANE!!!!!!!! We're talking THE god and THE satan of image how dare do you sully spawn by comparing him to Tyrant....TYRANT!!! a depowered one no less are u f ****ing high dude?!?
What did those armies do to make them that impressive. Even Hellspawn varied in power level. The Medievil version was significantly weaker.
To be honest, it's not that big of a feat. He at best is around Depowered Tyrant.
i never said he image could pawn all DC or MU but i did say they could probably match them so dont put words in my mouth buddy thanks, but if god and satan are that powerful and still under the MoM id hate to see the damage she could do while in the DC or MU im talking the MoM, her kids would give DC and MU a hell of a fight alone, you on the other hand say im wrong and this and that thats all you do is SAY when i keep refuring to feets and such when you refur to insults and nothing else.
Summary of Spawn 162..Zera is the most powerful being in God's army...so much so that he was forced to lock her away for Eons, cuz she was absolutley insane, and her blood lust could not be sated and could possibly threaten his reign in the kingdom of heaven, but when the war started he was forced to use her to defend the gates....yeah spawn dusted her neatly..
okay So spawn destroyed both armies...and by both armies i mean every able bodied soul in both heaven and hell. not just a small legion. every human that ever died since the history of man, and made it to either heaven or hell..yeah spawn dusted them....
now here is where it gets tricky..the the four horse men roam the earth now, and are killing every single person in all corners of the earth, and everyone who dies comes back undead and his instantly recruited to either side....
here you can see the hordes..there are so many that the skies and ocean are literally black with them.
then Boom, he destroys them in one broad stroke...none of that Dragon Ball Z bullshit where ppl are charging up for 2 hrs..
the after math of the blast...aww screw it I'll just destroy the whole Earth and everything on it while im here
Lobo from DC
Here is Lobo
Lobo immortality via contract. Spawn isn’t the only Immortal
http://img455.imageshack.us/my.php?image=sfile4hh.jpg
With the chip in his head playing heavy rock music 24/7, brain fooking, psychic attacks, are rendered useless.
http://img158.imageshack.us/img158/406/4chip5ff.jpg
http://img159.imageshack.us/img159/1937/5hischip6lg.jpg
His healing and cloning powers are explained. It would be interesting to see Spawn call up his Legions while Lobo can make clones of himself with a drop of blood.
http://img55.imageshack.us/img55/219...dclones3ne.jpg
Survives planetary destruction
http://img361.imageshack.us/img361/3...snukes20qb.jpg
http://img361.imageshack.us/img361/7...snukes39wt.jpg
And with brute strength we see him taking on several Gods (not the first time, in contract on Gawd, we see him taking out God and Devil that some what resemble Spawns God and Satan.)
Taking on several Gods
http://img383.imageshack.us/img383/8...6vsgods0ib.jpg
http://img383.imageshack.us/img383/2...vsgods26zz.jpg
Of course there is more, but I made a respect thread for that vary purpose, I leave up to you guys to think ware he is ranked.
1st age
2nd age
3rd age
4th age
As for Manga equivalent, there is Aka Chan. I don’t think he can take on 4th age, but 3rd age and below go down hard and fast.
Aka No Ou Sendai from Samurai Deeper Kyo (the manga not the anime)
he Former Aka no Ou was the Aka no Ou of the previous generation of Mibu, who was once kind and benevolent, but for some reason became evil. He somehow foresaw this and told both Kyo and Shihoudou to kill him should he ever hurt the Mibu clan. Aka no Ou was the very first of the Battle Dolls created by the true Mibu and the first of the Red Cross Knights. His real name is Kyouichirou. Kyouichirou is the older brother of Kyoushirou, Chinmei, and Kyousaburou.
Aka Chan: can increase his powers dramatically by re-absorbing the Red Cross Knights.
Aka Chan: Has studied every technique within the Mibu Clan, and plus some more. This makes him a vary formidable and well rounded opponent.
Aka Chan: In my scan, and re-confirmed with a separate translation. Aka Chan is capable of moving as fast if not faster then the speed of light. (Also, Kyo was seen cutting a musket ball in mid air killing the gun man in the process. Kyo at the moment was in his weakest form. Aka Chan is several times Faster then Kyo in comparison)
Aka Chan: Can create an army of Blood Soldiers. The only method to beat the Blood Dolls is, by another Mibu, Muramasa Blade.
Aka Chan: Has Super Strength. The level of the strength has not bin measured.
Aka Chan: Has Vast Durability, having tanked and survived Golden Wind followed by several other powerful technique.
Aka Chan: Has Fast Healing and Regenerative abilities.
Aka Chan: Can live as long as he wants. If he chooses to he can end his life at this vary moment or live on for eternity.
Aka Chan stated he had learned all of the techniques within the Mibu Clan plus some. This was later reinforced when Aka Chan performed Sikeigan on Sanada. (Sanada is not part of the Mibu Clan.)
Aka Chan: He can place barriers for protection.
Aka Chan: Can materialize stuff out of thin air.
Aka Chan: Can throw a "net" of some sort rendering the enemy immobile
Aka Chan: Projectile energy attacks (it resembles lighting base element) from the palm of his hand.
Here is a list of Techniques Aka Chan was seen performing.
Sikeigan
Note - Kyo and Aka Chan share the same techniques.
Suzaku: An attack that's so fast, even one of the Four Emperors can barely follow the attack's path. A fiery phoenix surrounds Kyo as he cuts his into his opponent. If the first attack does not kill his opponent or is turned aside somehow, a second attack with twice as much power, is used immediately.
Byakko: A white tiger that tears the opponent aparts with it's claws. A superior technique to Suzaku, and consequently, the difficulty of execution and the subsequent stress on Kyo is also greater.
Genbu: A black tortoise entwined with serpents, and is both an offensive and defensive technique. Genbu's shell protects Kyo from an opponent's attack, while the serpents bind and destroy them. (note. Genbu has a two part attack. it’s a defensive and offensive technique. Like it is stated first part protects the user. If the opponent manages to break the barrier, It can be followed up A) holding the opponent down. B) trapping the opponent and sealing it off. While the opponent is completely sealed, in which the opponent remains enveloped by a wall of atmosphere, in which the wind tears madly).
Seiryu: More than a dozen Mizuchi are projected towards the opponent and surrounds them, eventually merging to create an immobilizing and destructive whirlwind that pulls the opponent into the heavens, where the waiting Kyo (in the form of the legendary blue dragon) descends to deliver the final blow.
Kouryu: During the final battle with Mibu Kyoshiro, Kyo's faith reaches it's peak and allows him to surpass his limits, giving him the ability to summon all of the Four Gods simultaneously, which in turn brought forth from the heavens a golden wind of unsurpassed power. But it's while in possession of his original body that Kyo was able to summon the golden wind again in it's true form: the ultimate heavenly dragon Kouryu. (note, Aka Chans is 3 times more powerfull then Kyo's version of Kouryu)
He Is supposedly faster then light,(might be hyperbool) but he flat out doges lighting.
Shaman X Man - Marvel Comics
I was thinking of putting ranking Shaman X Man in 1st age but know I am kinda having second thoughts.
Abilities - Telepathy
- Telekinesis
- Psychometry
- Precognition
- Cross-dimensional travel
Tap into the enormous psychic resources of the astral plane in order to manipulate matter and energy, manifesting hard-psi to:
- levitate and direct physical objects
- fire mental force bolts
- cause violent explosive reactions in matter
- fly through the air
- shield himself and others from attack
- increase the physical power of his blows
- flow his molecules through another solid object to become intangible
and soft-psi to:
- scan for brain wave patterns
- project and manipulate thoughts
- intuitively translate new languages
- forge psi-links to travel in astral form
- generate realistic illusions out of psi-plasm
- establish mental defenses against new psionic attacks
- give substance to astral energy to solidify psychic forms or forge protective psi-armor
I figured that there was some question in the Arena for the tournament over how powerful Shaman Nate Grey really was, what he's done, and also, what he could do. Would he just dump someone somewhere else on the spiral? What is in character and out of character? Hopefully this list will help some. And if someone can come up with a supplementary list of X-Man's feats, BEFORE he became the Shaman, that would be appreciated as well.
***
Shaman Nate Grey:
Powers and Feats:
*Can Fly (X-Man #63)
*"Telekinetically moved some of the chemicals in your brain around, shut down a few secretors." (X-Man #63)
*Can "see power signatures" ("Don't try to talk. My name's Nate Grey. I saw the power flow from whatever killed your friend in the elevator. If you could see things as I do... well, to me, it lit up half of Manhattan."😉 (X-Man #63)
*A powerful telekine, with 67 previous kills, attacks him with a full out attack, and Nate takes no damage, then shuts him down, blasting him a lethal psibolt then leaves him lying back in cracked concrete which was cracked as a result of the blast (X-Man #63)
*In X-Man #64, the narration describes Nate Grey as the following: "Mutant. Telepath. Shaman. Intermediary between powers. The Guardian of reality's door."
*Can break through telepathic blocks effortlessly -- "Don't get me wrong. Your telepathic blocks are excellent. But you've never met anyone like me before." (X-Man #64)
*The "Gauntlet", a group of powerful mutants, said that "the power you radiate is unbelievable." (X-Man #64)
*His power is so great that telepathic blocks are almost nothing to him -- "If I pushed your blocks any harder, I'd turn you into vegetables. I don't want to do that." (X-Man #64)
*His telekinetic and telepathic shielding stopped a downspiral monster from reaching him and the "Gauntlet" (X-Man #64)
*Crushed an entire house down on the creature (X-Man #64)
*Can fairly easily pick out 12 minds amongst 10 million people (he strained in X-Man #65 because he'd just come out of a big battle)
*Can at will leave the universe and travel anywhere on the Spiral (first appeared in X-Man #64-65 -- he disappears effortlessly in X-Man #65)
*Can survive in space and on planets with little to no air to breathe (X-Man #65)
*Can blast craters into ground (X-Man #65)
*Can catch boulders telekinetically and blast them into nothing (X-Man #66)
*While talking to a woman in the middle of New York, he telekinetically grabbed ten individuals throughout New York, raised them up into the sky, and blew them all up (X-Man #66)
*Transported a woman into one of the downward spirals, where she was trapped with the Downward Spiral creatures. (X-Man #66)
*Crushed an entire city, Quito, Ecuador, in just a few minutes, while in his sleep -- this is an example of his power levels BEFORE he was even Shaman, this is X-Man prior to becoming Shaman (X-Man #67)
*In X-Man #68, Nate learns from "Maddie" "what he is, what all Nate Greys have been on every Earth. The Ultimate Telekine, designed with a doomsday weapon for a mind. The climax of the evolution of weapons." (X-Man #68)
*Incinerated a woman with his mind until nothing remained (X-Man #68)
*Flew out of orbit, and then back into orbit at an extreme velocity, without taking any damage (X-Man #68)
*Nate is the first "truly functional Nate Grey" (X-Man #69)
*Learns how to use his telekinesis for damping pain centers in the brain, stimulating healing, neutralizing unbalanced body chemistry (X-Man #69)
*Can make the dead talk again ("It's a matter of tweaking the right neurons in the dead brain, of holding the vocal cords together and letting them vibrate. The trick is to facilitate it without pumping your own thoughts out a dead man's mouth."😉 (X-Man #69)
*Has the ability to make all of Asia die with a single, huge, blast (X-Man #70)
*Destroyed an entire mechanized futuristic city with a huge single blast (X-Man #70)
*Can create portals beneath him and disappear in them, while transporting passengers (X-Man #71)
*Took a full blast from Quabri, a being who killed Thor with such a blast, and didn't even stop or take any knockback from it (X-Man #72)
*Survived a few more blasts from Quabri, becoming unconscious, but that's still a good feat considering just moments later Quabri destroyed the entire planet (X-Man #72)
*On a planet with acid sea and acid air, Nate managed to put a shield around them to make them survive, even after he and two others landed in the acid sea -- it took a lot of effort, but "it takes most of my concentration to telekinetically filter enough oxygen from the air to breathe" (X-Man #73)
*Healed a fractured being from an upper spiral, putting three beings back together into one, who was on the same level of power as Quabri (X-Man #73)
*Effortlessly transported himself and the other being with power like Quabri's onto the spiral (X-Man #73)
*Transported himself to the highest place on the Spiral (X-Man #74)
*Can easily make one forget everything about their life, their existence, even if they're a powerful being from a different elevation in the spiral (X-Man #74)
*Caused an entire neighborhood to not see him ("I'm telepathically recircuiting everyone's mind. So they won't know I'm here. I don't want to scare them. But mutant minds are hard wired differently from Homo Sapien minds. Bypassing them demands special focus. A mutant might see me." (X-Man #75)
edit - I want to add that as X-Man (Prior to becoming a Shaman) He was able to augment his strength and durability to around class 85 and more.
X-Man can easily communicate over vast distances (the other side of the world literally, with Peter once without strain).
Was controlled by Madelyne to destroy a city in his sleep with a mere "thumbs down".
That Madelyne, later revealed to be Queen Jean, stated that Nate Grey was the ultimate mutant telekine on every Earth.
Nate is able to destroy the entirety of Asia with a miniature sun.
He's powerful enough to shatter the moon itself with a TK enhanced blow, as demonstrated in a realistic dream hynotized by a Techno-Gnome.
Able to teleport, even before Shaman.
Able to shunt others to other places in the Spiral, as Shaman X-Man.
Able to connect a Silver City dweller's mind across her fractured selves across the multiverse.
Nate implies that he was created to destroy worlds.
Able to literally resurrect the certain deceased; Madelyne was give a new body, and AOA Gwen Stacy was given form, despite the AOA timeline being fully divered into Earth-238.
Nate Grey is as powerful as the Dark Phoenix. But his body can't handle such power, and he risks burning himself out if he overexerts himself.
Is descended from Alpha, the First Mutant (the AOA equivalent to the Phoenix). Manifested a Phoenix effect later when flying in space.
Able to create psi-forms that exist independantly of his mind, as he did for the new arm for his friend.
It's implied that his powers at his peak would literally remake reality, although this could be a narrative hyperbole.
Able to manifest psi-armour that enhances his strength and durability.
All I can think of for now (it is over 75 issues of memory, so I can't remember everything on the spot).
Note, Shaman X-Man is more passive than "Jesus" Cable, but if pushed, he's more willing to kill
If you want the actual scans, thier is a respect thread.
And something I did not add was, Shaman is capable of destroying a planet, and Shaman has taken Planet busting Attacks.
Exodus (Marvel Comics)
Exodus could take on 1st age Spawn.
Abilities
Superhuman Strength,
Speed,
Near-invulnerability (Around Class 85 Ton or higher)
Telepathy,
Telekinesis,
Teleportation,
Pyroplasmic blasts,
Psionic energy drain,
Psionic force beams,
Flight,
Resurrection,
Forcefields
Well here is Exodus in his full glory
Waaay back in the 12th century, Bennet du Paris manifests his powers for the first time.
1. http://img244.imageshack.us/img244/78/exodusorigin01cy1.jpg
2. http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/1876/exodusorigin02wy0.jpg
3. http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/6392/exodusorigin03ns5.jpg
4. http://img244.imageshack.us/img244/7726/exodusorigin04gf3.jpg
5. http://img244.imageshack.us/img244/7507/exodusorigin05dl8.jpg
6. http://img244.imageshack.us/img244/198/exodusorigin06ui3.jpg
Apocalypse transforms Bennet into Exodus and commands him to battle his former friend, the Black Knight.
1. http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/110/exodusorigin07ay7.jpg
2. http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/312/exodusorigin08pm0.jpg
3. http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/3530/exodusorigin09bc8.jpg
4. http://img242.imageshack.us/img242/5443/exodusorigin10zi0.jpg
Even with next to no experiance, Exodus' mind proves too strong for Sersi.
1. http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/8990/exodusorigin11om7.jpg
2. http://img167.imageshack.us/img167/8277/exodusorigin12ns2.jpg
Refusing to kill his friend, Exodus turns on Apocalypse and ends up being locked in a tomb till modern day.
1. http://img242.imageshack.us/img242/1774/exodusorigin13kw0.jpg
Exodus' first actual appearance.
1. http://img90.imageshack.us/img90/3278/xfactorv109215rougherbw9.jpg
2. http://img90.imageshack.us/img90/4268/xfactorv109216rougheryk0.jpg
Exodus takes on X-force during the Fatal Attractions crossover.
1. http://img90.imageshack.us/img90/5850/xforce2519xj3.jpg
2. http://img90.imageshack.us/img90/2776/xforce2520hy4.jpg
3. http://img90.imageshack.us/img90/5200/xforce2521be8.jpg
4. http://img90.imageshack.us/img90/5618/xforce2522pi0.jpg
5. http://img90.imageshack.us/img90/149/xforce2523oi2.jpg
6. http://img90.imageshack.us/img90/2818/xforce2524bp4.jpg
And again...
1. http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/4071/xforce2531bd0.jpg
2. http://img220.imageshack.us/img220/5167/xforce2532qk5.jpg
3. http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/9996/xforce2533bx6.jpg
4. http://img220.imageshack.us/img220/7488/xforce2535ui2.jpg
Exodus owns Fabian Cortez.
1. http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/6246/fatalattractionspt3uncannyxmen30403xl4.jpg
2. http://img220.imageshack.us/img220/7169/fatalattractionspt3uncannyxmen30404wq5.jpg
Exodus best showing of power happened during the Bloodties crossover. He was shown to be capable of simultaneously:
1. Amplifying Genoshan mutates' and humans hatred of each other,
2. Crushing Genosha under a massive force field,
3. Immobilising Quicksilver, the Scarlet Witch, Crystal and Jean Grey in another force field,
4. Protecting himself from attacks and,
5. Dealing out massive amounts of damage to both the X-Men and the Avengers.
Here are all of Exodus' appearances in the crossover in all their glory...
Exodus arrives in Genosha and makes his presence felt by beating on the Avengers, and War Machine.
1. http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/4109/bloodties01am2.jpg
2. http://img170.imageshack.us/img170/9380/bloodties02ay3.jpg
3. http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/9650/bloodties03ym1.jpg
4. http://img86.imageshack.us/img86/6718/bloodties04qn5.jpg
5. http://img135.imageshack.us/img135/1444/bloodties05cm4.jpg
6. http://img86.imageshack.us/img86/384/bloodties06yu8.jpg
7. http://img86.imageshack.us/img86/5139/bloodties07qz2.jpg
8. http://img86.imageshack.us/img86/493/bloodties08lz9.jpg
9. http://img135.imageshack.us/img135/1189/bloodties09nj2.jpg
Which leads to Exodus fighting, and stalemating one of the Avengers most powerful members... Sersi.
1. http://img167.imageshack.us/img167/5378/bloodties10wh4.jpg
2. http://img86.imageshack.us/img86/2065/bloodties11tl7.jpg
3. http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/291/bloodties12oo9.jpg
4. http://img150.imageshack.us/img150/6022/bloodties13pn3.jpg
5. http://img150.imageshack.us/img150/859/bloodties14vf4.jpg
6. http://img150.imageshack.us/img150/5291/bloodties15gb9.jpg
7. http://img150.imageshack.us/img150/917/bloodties16wc3.jpg
Exodus effortlessly takes care of Cortez, Quicksilver, Jean Grey, Scarlet Witch and Crystal.
1. http://img243.imageshack.us/img243/5071/bloodties17ds0.jpg
2. http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/8186/bloodties18gq5.jpg
3. http://img243.imageshack.us/img243/3775/bloodties19ty0.jpg
4. http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/4286/bloodties20sh9.jpg
5. http://img150.imageshack.us/img150/858/bloodties21cg4.jpg
6. http://img178.imageshack.us/img178/5831/bloodties22eg0.jpg
7. http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/6310/bloodties23bh1.jpg
Exodus takes out Rogue from underground.
1. http://img178.imageshack.us/img178/6745/bloodties24te4.jpg
2. http://img226.imageshack.us/img226/1678/bloodties25uf2.jpg
The final confrontation between Exodus and the Avengers/X-Men teams.
1. http://img178.imageshack.us/img178/7931/bloodties26xg6.jpg
2. http://img226.imageshack.us/img226/8269/bloodties27fn6.jpg
3. http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/1753/bloodties28zw2.jpg
4. http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/908/bloodties29ma7.jpg
5. http://img135.imageshack.us/img135/3502/bloodties30ml1.jpg
6. http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/9571/bloodties31vg2.jpg
7. http://img135.imageshack.us/img135/8818/bloodties32tb8.jpg
Exodus affects Scanner in her astral form.
1. http://img170.imageshack.us/img170/5706/affectastral01wy8.jpg
Exodus teleports Neophyte back from Avalon to earth.
1.http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/6310/teleportation01rg4.jpg
Exodus easily subdues a bunch of fighting Acolytes, including Colossus.
1 .http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/9119/vacolytes01cr2.jpg
Dr. Strange.
Ability
Stops time across the planet, then wills time to reverse.
http://img203.imageshack.us/my.php?image=timerever12fl.jpg
After fighting for near 48 hours straight, Strange still has enough power to raise a full sized moon off it's axis and blow it up.
http://img137.imageshack.us/my.php?image=moon2ej.jpg
Blows a full sized planet up.
http://img141.imageshack.us/my.php?image=planblow2nb.jpg
This scan shows how effortlessly Strange can time travel. This time, he does it for no other reason than entertainment.
http://img204.imageshack.us/my.php?image=time7cm.jpg
Strange defeats MoonDragon, weilder of the mind gem in telepathy combat.
Moondragon>Prof X
http://img147.imageshack.us/img147/4936/infinityabyss3of6181ff.jpg
http://img147.imageshack.us/img147/6769/infinityabyss3of6213qs.jpg
Throws a high powered Jet fighter plane into another dimension. Again, very nonchalant.
http://img142.imageshack.us/my.php?image=plane8lt.jpg
Strange breaks through an illusion.
http://img396.imageshack.us/my.php?image=strangefeat57tk.gif
Dr.Strange, power to destroy the Galaxy.
http://img225.imageshack.us/my.php?image=gala0gm.jpg
Creditable fights
He defeats the In-Betweener with no prep. (IB>>>Thanos by far)
During the I.G saga, Strange went toe to toe with Warlock w/I.G, and stalemated for a while.
K.O's Galactus' herlad, Nova with a single blast.
Durability
Anyway, he takes a full on punch to the back from Jug. Jug comments that he "put holes in traliors with that punch", Strange is up and about a few panels later.
http://img142.imageshack.us/my.php?image=jug5wr.jpg
Ok. Now with his good shields. vs Galactus.
http://img219.imageshack.us/my.php?image=small0tr.jpg
I would go on, but there is a respect thread. I think Strange is 4th age or higher.
dr strange gets all his powers from magic not himself i couldnt care less what he does especially with the vishanti backing him up, he once defeated shuma gorath who can destroy celestials but does that mean he did it by himself NOPE.
lobo cant clone anymore from what ive read, and spawn could just trap him like he did urizen, or stop time around him or send him to hell where spawns power is almost limitless and dont give me that bs about lobo i own most of his comics i believe i know what he can do.
genis vell's feats your comparing spawns to where done when he was delusional sooooooooooo not canon nobody cares
nice feats for exodus and shaman i know there feats, they still dont go on skyfather level i dont see those guys defeating the armies of heaven and hell, in fact i dont see any of these guys doing what spawn can do
stopping time
moving as fast as he can
melting heavens gates during second age now he's stronger
changing the world at second age now he's stronger
swollowing up all of heaven and hells armies
your feats are impressive but your just being full of it, like ive said in the past surfer has better feats then galactus dont make him greater then galactus, and that mind gem cant be used to its full power buddy.
you know i dont know what screen you see when you read this but i never said first age spawn was sky father buddy
first age is herald level
second age SECONDDDD is sky father higher then king thor
third age is unknown
fourth age is up there who knows how strong he is
your the one who drags the debate on buddy if you dont like it leave. You havent proven anything sept that you have the power to waist my and other people on here's time, your list of feats doesnt meak jack all. Even if i did put spawn on a skyfather level at first age you did the same with lobo, everyone knows thats not how lobo is depicted anymore, sept for the immortality stuff, but since then he is a match for supes, not gods, he can not clone anymore. The lobo who could clone and defeat gods and such is what i kinda refur to as classic lobo.
Originally posted by id369
Hell, you haven’t even proven 4th age spawn is Sky Father level.
So don’t bring up that bullshit.
well allow me my good friend 😉
but let me pick up where i left off. so he destroys there army again and laffs at them
they are uber pissed, he scoffs at them, they demand to know how he got so powerful, MoM in his mother of all creation guise, tells them she gave him the power.
this is what they really look like...spawn says screw these guys, i want to see there true froms, MOAC warns him that it will make them more powerful
They blast him and he welcomes it, he is not harmed however but transported away by MoM
i didnt feel like adding some scans cuz all it showed was god and satan fighting on a barren earth....letting their full power loose and MoM notes they are equal so they will fight for eternity, and spawn asks what will becom of earth..so this scan shows when he finally got back into the picture MoM just basically told him to create another one..which he does
spawn asks what happend to god and satan,MoM gives some cryptic answer..the best i could come up with was that MoM imprisoned them in a time loop for ever to let them fight like idiots...anyhoo MoM EXPLICITLY tells spawn "you are this world's creator, you make the rules now" with a blinking of his eyes. Spawn closes the gates of hell and heaven, no longer will either side be able to collect souls for thier needs.. *DING DING DING DING DING!!!!!!!!* CAN SOMEBODY SAY SKYFATHER?!?!
So MoM is like you just created a world, you're a god now what's next.... and since it seems like its the same role the previous "God" played, its clear that spawn is on the Lvl we would normally consider"God" to be..MoM tries to give him the "with great power comes great responsiblity" speech. it doesnt take.. spawn renoucnes godhood and immortality, he just wants to be normal again so if "you are this world's creator, you make the rules now" doesnt prove that somebody is sky father i dont know that the F **** does
Originally posted by Beta Ray Howard
What, exactly, did Malebolgia do? He sat there, and got decapitated.Congratulations. He's worthless.
Malebolgia created the Hellspawns
Malebolgia slew his creator Leviathon to become the ruler of the 8th Circle of Hell
Malebolgia harnessed the power of Necroplasm, hell's most dangerous substance
Malebolgia has brought misery and ruin to dozens of worlds (as stated in Curse of Spawn)
Malebolgia has shaped the fabric of Hell (hell's reality in his circle) to his liking
He turned Al Simmons into the most powerful demon to date
Yeah.....
Originally posted by Beta Ray Howard
And what have they done to show that? God and Satan, quite literally, have no visible feats to show for in that comic. Like Spawn has described himself, they sit back and watch what's going on.
They sit back and watch thier armies battle, because a battle between God and Satan will never end. There will never be a victory between the two of them, that is why they send armies to fight on thier behalf, so a victory can be acheieved....like a game..
They are both infinitely powerful and immortal....they can never be destroyed. MOM stated that herself, so your argument against that will always be false.
Everything Heaven or Hell has done in Spawn is attributed to God and Satan directly, for they are above all other characters other than MOM and other characters have had amazing feats.
Zera who murdered thousands of angels all the equivalent of Mammon, Mammon who is far greater in power than any one of Galactus' heralds....
And God Spawn mutilitated Zera....hmmm......
Originally posted by Beta Ray Howard
Also, Earth isn't just "a big rock" in Marvel and DC either. In fact, nothing has ever happened to suggest that. In Marvel, it's been called "most favorable of worlds" by the Watcher, and the fact that it's special to TOAA speaks for itself. I'm sure that DC probably has similar things to show for it.
Earth is still a "favorable rock" in Marvel and DC. Earth in those universes does not have its own spirit or power the way it does in Image.... ❌
Originally posted by Beta Ray Howard
Also, I guarantee that God and Satan from Spawn couldn't do jack shit to even the Phoenix Force or Spectre, so if you wanna test that one, take it to the VS forum.
Oh yes they would...they are both immortal and indestructable, and can do virtually anything they wish.
Originally posted by Beta Ray Howard
That statement in itself is contradictory. How can you give the power to defeat something, which MOM gave Spawn, if something is undefeatable?.
God and Satan are indestructable, not undefeatable. Urizen is indestructable not undefeatable. They can only be defeated by being locked up or contained.
Cogliostro told Spawn that Urizen can be contained but not destroyed.
Such has been proven, as Urizen has only been defeated by means of being locked away, never destroyed.
Originally posted by Beta Ray Howard
Makes no sense whatsoever, so it's just rhetoric. Plain and simple.
Are you claiming that something that MOM states is pure rhetoric ?
What a FANTASTIC ARGUMENT ! 🙄
So I guess anything that TOAA or Yahweh says is ALSO just pure rhetoric ! 😱
Originally posted by Beta Ray Howard
I think that, first of all, calling me a fanboy makes no sense whatsoever, considering that I've shown nothing in this thread, or on any other thread, to be a fanboy of anything.
You continue to make baseless arguments, with no proof to back up your assertions, simply bashing Spawn and the characters, claiming that they can't do anything to Marvel or DC....
You make arguments like an 11 year old would.....
Originally posted by Beta Ray Howard
Spawn is a comic of recyclables. I already proved that in a different thread, so feel free to stop typing about that one, considering you can't back it up.
You have proven nothing 👇
I have already countered that point, and you refused to look into it. I have BACKED UP every fkn thing I said. You, on the other hand, HAVE NOT.
Originally posted by Beta Ray Howard
Also, any comic is full of "indestrucable" characters, and how many times has Spawn been blown apart, or even killed? Look at what Curse did when he dissected him.
Spawn at First Age, Second Age, and Third Age was never indestructable or was said to be.
God, Satan, and God Spawn are indestructable factually. MOM said so herself, and the comic book played out that way. Stop denying what's there. No matter how many times you argue against it, you will be wrong.
Spawn has also survived being decapitated, dissected, ripped to peices, etc..during his weaker ages....sounds virtually indestructable to me 😉
Originally posted by Beta Ray Howard
Once again, more crap claims. Please stop.
The only person talking bullshit is you....you have not backed up ONE of your points, and any evidense i supply you simply ignore. ya fanboy
Originally posted by Beta Ray Howard
How many times have the Plebiac brothers died and came back, again? How many times have the similar characters with the same premise (Redeemer, Female Angels, the multitudes of different Spawns that come in during the comic) came along?
Redeemer has appeared Four times, Angela has had 3 major appearances, there are more than one hellspawn btw....hellspawns are an army that Malebolgia created incase you didn't already know 😉
Those were all thier appearances in 163 comic books.....
Violator has never died.....in Hell......an angel or demon's deaths on Earth do not equal true death. Only when they die in heaven or hell is it permanent.
Angela's death in hell was permanent. She never came back to life the way Spiderman, Superman, and X men do one hundred times a year.....
Originally posted by Beta Ray Howard
There's literally dozens. You can't say that Spawn doesn't have any repitition, because it does.
Like.... ?
Can you please back up your bullshit ?
Originally posted by Beta Ray Howard
Yet I obviously have much more common sense. If someone is granted the power to destroy something, then that something is defeatable.See how simple that was?
What are you talking about ?
Spawn has never been granted the power to destroy anyone !
Originally posted by Beta Ray Howard
Okay, for the last time, since this reply itself is getting beyond repetitive in its own right, if you can grant power to destroy something, that something is able to be defeated. Also, saying that someone from another universe couldn't defeat it is just sheer lunacy.
Can you please clarify what you are talking about ?
Mom never gave Spawn the power to destroy Urizen, God, Or Satam....NEVER...she NEVER stated that.
That is either a poor misintepretation on YOUR part, or a shitty argument you are trying to come up with last minute....
Originally posted by Beta Ray Howard
There's lots of undefeatable stuff from different universes. Image is no different. 😬
Image is very different from Marvel and DC. Your ignorance is alarming.....
Originally posted by Beta Ray Howard
Spawn got a small power boost, and beat Urizen. Big deal. Urizen didn't do anything to suggest that someone along the lines of Thanos, Despero, etc couldn't take it out.
A small power boost ?
Total Control over the Earth is hardly what i call a small power boost.....
Urizen was ALSO in a severely weakened state, so his being trapped was bound to happen with Greenworld's gift. It was Spawn, Angela, and the entire Earth realm VS Urizen....
Thanos and Despero cannot open and close an entire planet last time I checked......
Originally posted by Beta Ray Howard
How can he only be contained when you're claiming the power of MOM. He/She could just blink him out of existance with the flick of a finger. 😬
He can only be contained by those who are his equal or superior. (God, Satan, etc.) Mom created him...she created everything in Image. Therefore she can do wtf she wants
Originally posted by Beta Ray Howard
What were you saying about a toilet again?
It's where you belong 👇
