Hand-to-Hand Combat

Started by Davin Maul5 pages

You keep saying that GG is the best. He might be the best because he only fought Jedi. He might be unprepared to fight someone as good as Maul, let's face it, Obi was lucky and was just in a street-fighting mode. Against Maul, GG would need to be verrrry careful. Plus it also said in the novelization that GG basically learned all the forms by fighting Jedi. He wouldn't have seen Maul fight before and therefore would not have any advantages in a fight which gives Maul the win.

Greivous is made of metal. Maul, no matter how skilled, cant punch through metal.

Originally posted by Davin Maul
You keep saying that GG is the best. He might be the best because he only fought Jedi. He might be unprepared to fight someone as good as Maul, let's face it, Obi was lucky and was just in a street-fighting mode. Against Maul, GG would need to be verrrry careful. Plus it also said in the novelization that GG basically learned all the forms by fighting Jedi. He wouldn't have seen Maul fight before and therefore would not have any advantages in a fight which gives Maul the win.

The forms you speak of are in fact lightsaber forms, and have no bearing on hand to hand combat. A kick is a kick, whether its from Maul, or a lying down OB1...same outcome, "BING"..."OWWWW!!!!" I'm not saying GG is the best fighter, I'm saying he's the one who would survive. Tell you what...go up to a guy, any guy, and punch him in the face. Then go up to a car, truck, whatever, and punch an engine block...i guarantee that you will have two very different outcomes. Now, imagine if that engine block was punch at you with 4 arms and two legs, with speeds not possible by a human...see where I'm going with this?

Imagine Bruce Lee or Muhammad Ali (the only two men quoted as punching as fast as a cat can swipe) punching at you...imagine both of them punching you at the same time..think you'll survive? Now triple the speed and make those hands metal. No way anyone could beat him. Sorry if that at all sounded redundant, but some people need as many examples as possible.

Grievous is most definately not the best fighter here in terms of technique. In terms of prowess, I'd say Maul is the best and Jango is up there as well. But Grievous possesses physical attributes that dwarf his contemporaries in this thread. He's faster, stronger, more agile, and has better reflexes.

Subjekt is very much right.

Originally posted by Gideon
Grievous is most definately not the best fighter here in terms of technique. In terms of prowess, I'd say Maul is the best and Jango is up there as well. But Grievous possesses physical attributes that dwarf his contemporaries in this thread. He's faster, stronger, more agile, and has better reflexes.

Subjekt is very much right.


I agree!

Grievous is physically stronger because he has a metal body.

Originally posted by Gideon
Grievous is most definately not the best fighter here in terms of technique. In terms of prowess, I'd say Maul is the best and Jango is up there as well. But Grievous possesses physical attributes that dwarf his contemporaries in this thread. He's faster, stronger, more agile, and has better reflexes.

Subjekt is very much right.

Yup yup. The only one I see beating him (and all the others on the list) is good ol' Durge.

He threw Obsession Anakin (with his lightsaber) through a wall after playing around with him in melee.

Vader would be tough, too. He has incredible strength. Also, he pimp-slapped Boba Fett and punched through the skull of a giant beast.

Bane with of without orbalisks has got to be one of the greatest, too.

He's a brawler, yeah, he seems pretty good.

Pretty good? He took on 3 Republic officers at once and it was like even until he got the warning from the Force that one of the guys had pulled a vibroblade on him. Oh yeah, that's before he got any Sith Training or anything.

He's big, strong, fast, and has been fighting for quite some time. He's deadly. However, he doesn't have the technique or discipline that people like Maul, Jango, or Mace have.

Subjekt, I agree that Grevious would survive. What I meant to say with the styles is that from what I have seen/read, not many Jedi had unarmed combat training- with the exception of Mace and Kit. As in the fight with Obi, he was just trying to do his best to hurt GG with his fists in a uncoordinated way, whereas Maul could use technique to at least make the fight close.

Let's eliminate GG from the Poll then, would anybody have a chance then against Maul? I say yes (Mace), but I still think that Maul would beat Mace, even though Mace is black and automattically gives Maul damage with that.

The Caestus Deception makes it clear that all jedi are trained in martial arts, it's part of their lightsaber form training.

Originally posted by General Kenobl
In hand-to-hand combat, either Maul or Windu. Maul's a master of Teras Kasi. Windu was shown to deadly in fists (Shatterpoint), and was able to give Kar Vastor, the lor pelek and a strong hand-to-hand fighter, a helluva fight.

I go with Maul.

Yeah, pretty much what he said.

Windu would rape those other guys, mabye even Maul as well.

in Cestus Deception is sais that Kit Fisto is One of the Top figthers in the order . But since mace pawns id asume that Kit falls under him But Fighting grevious is folly. i mean hese got 4 arms is encredibly flexible and made of metal i maen how do you fight that...my vote goes to grevious

Maul is the most skilled, but I'd call Mace about as deadly.

Jango and Kit both deserve mentioning, too, due to the description of Kits fighting in CD, and Jango killing armed Jedi knights (note the plural) with only his hands.

However, Greivous is made of metal, and, his only chance of going down to an opponent on this list is a tough win (and not that probable) for Mace, via shatterpoint.

Of people not on this list, Bane is worth mentioning, because he is big, strong, fast, and has experience in brawling in those mines. Also, every Yhuzzhan Vong... ever. Slayers would be a *****. Lastly... Durge ftw. You can't put him down, and, he can toss Obsession Anakin around, while toying with him.

I think Darth Maul. He's an exceptional fighter. Mace is perhaps next. What about Jacen or Shado Vao?

However, Greivous is made of metal, and, his only chance of going down to an opponent on this list is a tough win (and not that probable) for Mace, via shatterpoint.

Wasn't Kenobi able to rip the metals covering Grievous heart? Couldn't Maul do the same and then punch it to a bloody pulp?

Originally posted by General Kenobl
Wasn't Kenobi able to rip the metals covering Grievous heart? Couldn't Maul do the same and then punch it to a bloody pulp?

With the way Greivous fought unarmed in Episode three? Definitely. With the way Greivous should fight, given his abilities? Probably not.

What do you mean "his abilities"? During the hand to hand fight in ROTS between Kenobi and Grievous, Obi-Wan was able to rip Grievous's heat protector. Maul, being a Teras Kasi master, should easily be able to do that and rip the droid general's heart off.

It would depend, in my honest opinion. Maul is definately one of (if not "the"😉 best unarmed fighters in the SW universe. But, like Obi-Wan, I actually see him having a hell of a time against Grievous, who is much stronger, faster, and equipped with better reflexes than Maul.