Hand-to-Hand Combat

Started by Marxman5 pages

I think Grievous is an unfair person to put on that list. He can't feel pain on any part beside his organs. The ability to wear an opponent down is very important in hand to hand combat.

It would depend, in my honest opinion. Maul is definately one of (if not "the"😉 best unarmed fighters in the SW universe. But, like Obi-Wan, I actually see him having a hell of a time against Grievous, who is much stronger, faster, and equipped with better reflexes than Maul.

True, Grievous would be throwing Maul all over the place. But if the Zabrak keeps dodging and take in all the bruises, I would say in a long fist fight, he would win.

Kenobi kicked the General and was met not only without a large amount of pain from his shin contacting the metal, but with an angry swipe from Greivous. Why is Maul going to be any different. A persons resilience to pain only goes so far.

HANDS DOWN Maul then Master Windu.

Where's Vastor on that list? He WTFpwns them all.

The thread is movies only. And I'd put my money on GG over Vastor in a fist fight.

I wouldn't. That'd be like putting a Gorilla against a black bear...

WTF? Where'd you get the Gorilla against a black bear idea? I'd put my money on the Gorilla.

Kenobi kicked the General and was met not only without a large amount of pain from his shin contacting the metal, but with an angry swipe from Greivous. Why is Maul going to be any different. A persons resilience to pain only goes so far.

Except Kenobi is not a powerful master of Teras Kasi, which is an unarmed fighting style.

How do you know that Maul cannot just rip the metal, and even though suffer quite a beating, manage to rip the heart out of Grievous or slowly tear him apart?

I wouldn't. That'd be like putting a Gorilla against a black bear...

Which is the gorilla? Who is the black bear?

I'd say Vastor is the gorrila...lol

Yeah, guys I've thought about this and If Maul could rip GG's heat protector away and punch his organs to death, then Vastor would literally jump onto GG, cling to him like a human talon and then start to phyiscally claw his organs out, and probally start to actually eat them.

When he fought Mace Windu, he took a little chunk out of his neck that almost killed him.

Also, I'd say that out of all the fighters I've seen or read about in the SW Universe, I'd say Vastor has the most raw stamina.
When he fought Mace Windu, Windu was able to strike him so hard he landed upside down and impacted on the ground - on the back of his neck.

Ordinarily that would either paralyze a person or kill them in RL.
Vastor just got up and grinned at Mace afterwards.

Even If GG did all kinds of unspeakably painfull and punishing things to Vastor in their fight, Vastor would still win in the end.

When I first heard about Vastor, I didn't think much about him and thought people were just blowing steam.
Then I read Shatterpoint.

You should read it too...

Yeah, Vastor is a machine. He's can easily rival a master swordsmen like Kenobi in a saber/vibroshield contest, and he's probably one the best unarmed fighters ever.

Maybe

No, not a maybe, definately. Have you read Shatterpoint?

Agreed... but... DURGE FTW!

Glaive was able to do damage on Durge. I would say Vastor can too.

Vastor beating Durge? No way...

Comon, this is Durge "I punch through durasteel and get blown to pieces and live to tell about it", Vastor is now suddenly gonna take this guy down forever unarmed? Even with weapons he wouldn't make it...

Durge scared Glaive with his speed: http://www.swtimeline.ru/?comics=39&page=022

Durge took two hits from Glaive (because he had just been shot through the eye and was distracted) and it did no damage. On the next page he admits that he was toying with them:
http://www.swtimeline.ru/?comics=39&page=023

Durge reveals a neat ability and tosses Kenobi: http://www.swtimeline.ru/?comics=39&page=027

No central spinal cord, and, blades!: http://www.swtimeline.ru/?comics=39&page=038

Some brief h2h with an ARC: http://www.swtimeline.ru/?comics=39&page=046

The intentionally bad ass looking Jedi with a mysterious history and an alias jumps on Durges back, so Durge whips him off over his head, and drowns him... in lava: http://www.swtimeline.ru/?comics=39&page=069

He's speedy: http://www.swtimeline.ru/?comics=47&page=046

Shrapnel tearing through him didn't cause a scratch: http://www.swtimeline.ru/?comics=47&page=048

Contends with Anakin 5 months before ROTS.. in melee: http://www.swtimeline.ru/?comics=47&page=053

"Contends with" was definitely an understatement: http://www.swtimeline.ru/?comics=47&page=054

Throws Anakin through a door, and admits he was toying with him: http://www.swtimeline.ru/?comics=47&page=056

Durge would beat pretty much anyone unarmed, even the likes of Vastor... and Yhuzzahn Vong.

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=370251

So? I don't see how Kar will split Durge into pieces unarmed.

With his weapons, they are still roughly at the same speed. (Both move damn fast, Durge move alot faster then other jedi's, Durge can feel his heart beat wherever he goes, and his reflexes are on top). But Durge can take lightsabers and still not go to pieces, and if he does he can still go together. If he loses his armor, I bet most people have seen him, he's crazy. He can stretch his arms over a whole room and swallow people with his body. I think Kar is outmatched.

Vastor ain't nothing