Bullseye VS Black Panther

Started by King KAM15 pages

Originally posted by Alfheim
Well we both are in the same boat, whats annoying me is he isnt listening to what anybody has to say, he just keeps on ranting on like a robot.
agreed, commrade

Originally posted by Francisco
Check this out. BP senses are better than the sensors of Doom's armor
http://www.flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=344033701&size=o

Bp agility, yeah he's so clumsy compared to Dare Devil!.

http://www.flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=344033698&size=l

OK lets try this again. Doom has never been portrayed as a racist, why has Hudlin turned him into a racist when in an issue in 1986 Doom was walking arm in arm with Storm. Even if it was a doombot, doombots are supposed to act like Dr Doom.

I and others were complaing that were not enough black characters in comics and was especially pleased that Apocalypse and Darwin were black.

People were complaining that Apoc should be shown to be more powerful. I am one of those that agree. Apooc was dodging a table thrown by Namor thats just stupid.

Lets hear your excuses.

Originally posted by Alfheim
OK lets try this again. Doom has never been portrayed as a racist, why has Hudlin turned him into a racist when in an issue in 1986 Doom was walking arm in arm with Storm. Even if it was a doombot, doombots are supposed to act like Dr Doom.

I and others were complaing that were not enough black characters in comics and was especially pleased that Apocalypse and Darwin were black.

People were complaining that Apoc should be shown to be more powerful. I am one of those that agree. Apooc was dodging a table thrown by Namor thats just stupid.

Lets hear your excuses.


Across the years many Doombots have malfuctioned. His behavior could be atributed to that. Apocalypse is black in the same sense guys like Spawn and Toobstone are black. They don't look like black people so it is just like they were not black people. The coffe table just add more to my complaints.

Originally posted by Francisco
Across the years many Doombots have malfuctioned. His behavior could be atributed to that.

How do you know it malfunctioned? Is there any other examples of Doom acting racist? So since there are no other examples of Doom acting racist we can assume there was no mailfunction.

Originally posted by Francisco

Apocalypse is black in the same sense guys like Spawn and Toobstone are black. They don't look like black people so it is just like they were not black people. The coffe table just add more to my complaints.

Apoc looks black to me. His face may look a bit strange but he has brown skin so you cant compare him to Tombstone who has white skin and Spawn who has a mask. Oh yeah Darwin looks black to me as well juts slightly mutated.

You didn address the issue of black people on this forum wanting more black characters. I specifically wanted there to be more black alien races.

Originally posted by Alfheim
How do you know it malfunctioned? Is there any other examples of Doom acting racist? So since there are no other examples of Doom acting racist we can assume there was no mailfunction.

Apoc looks black to me. His face may look a bit strange but he has brown skin so you cant compare him to Tombstone who has white skin and Spawn who has a mask. Oh yeah Darwin looks black to me as well juts slightly mutated.

You didn address the issue of black people on this forum wanting more black characters. I specifically wanted there to be more black alien races.

Yes Doom has acted Racist at least once before. It was the first time he invaded Wakanda. He called T'Challa and his people savages. A guy uploaded some scans of it as CBR. I'll see if I can find them.

Originally posted by Francisco
Yes Doom has acted Racist at least once before. It was the first time he invaded Wakanda. He called T'Challa and his people savages. A guy uploaded some scans of it as CBR. I'll see if I can find them.

Er im sure I have heard Doom call other people savages before??

Dont ignore the rest of my post you're annying me. Please reply to the rest.

Originally posted by Alfheim

You didn address the issue of black people on this forum wanting more black characters. I specifically wanted there to be more black alien races.

To me the issue is not that they want more black heroes but how they support those heroes. Through the years BP has shown he is every bit as skilled and brave as Capt America and any other fighter in the MU but he is always talked donw like some punk who can really fight or think that well. Soljer put it clearly. To him BP must be always depicted as a tad bellow the other heroes. He can't fight as good as Cap even though he has been shown doing so. He isn't as smart as Tony Stark even though he has been shown being so. He isn't as agile as DD even though he has been shown so. Get the point? BP is understimated despite the comics showing him to be among the greatest. To have BP losing with Bullseye under the conditions imposed in this thread is absurd IMO. BP has the skill and the tools to take BE down.

Originally posted by Francisco
To me the issue is not that they want more black heroes but how they support those heroes. Through the years BP has shown he is every bit as skilled and brave as Capt America and any other fighter in the MU but he is always talked donw like some punk who can really fight or think that well. Soljer put it clearly. To him BP must be always depicted as a tad bellow the other heroes. He can't fight as good as Cap even though he has been shown doing so. He isn't as smart as Tony Stark even though he has been shown being so. He isn't as agile as DD even though he has been shown so. Get the point? BP is understimated despite the comics showing him to be among the greatest. To have BP losing with Bullseye under the conditions imposed in this thread is absurd IMO. BP has the skill and the tools to take BE down.

But nobody said that! Why are you making assumptions???? As far as im concerned Apoc looks black but a bit mutated the guy has brown skin for **** sake, he is not supporting anybody.

Are you aware that one of the things I specifcally complained about was that there were no black cosmic gods and entities? For example why is Galactus white and why is Master Order white. Ok lets have it now, lets see what you can come up with.

Soljer said so. He said BP was a notch or two below cap and all the top fighers. He said BP was a notch or two bellow Tony Stark and so and so. Pretty much everyone agreed with him.

by the way there are black gods but as usual they are portrayed as less powerful than the norse gods. When I saw the old Silver Surfer cartoon I thought Galactus was black because of that deep and powerful voice they gave him.

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Look this scan it obviously proves that Iron Fist was owning Black Panther! 🙄

Iron Man ownage aswell! Bp is just not that smart or skilled 🙄
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Originally posted by Francisco
Soljer said so. He said BP was a notch or two below cap and all the top fighers. He said BP was a notch or two bellow Tony Stark and so and so. Pretty much everyone agreed with him.

So that means that they are all self-hating black people, because they dont agree with you???

Originally posted by Francisco

by the way there are black gods but as usual they are portrayed as less powerful than the norse gods.

Like who??? The Egyptains they are portrayed as being grey as not to offend blacks or whites.

Originally posted by Francisco

When I saw the old Silver Surfer cartoon I thought Galactus was black because of that deep and powerful voice they gave him.

Galactus is clearly white....look at the skin...duhh.

they also had the african orixas. Ogun the thunder god version has appeared. They made him class 50 opposed to Thor class 100.

Black Panther is obviously a tad bellow Cap in agility as well.
http://img138.imageshack.us/my.php?image=29cv1.jpg

Originally posted by Francisco
they also had the african orixas. Ogun the thunder god version has appeared. They made him class 50 opposed to Thor class 100.

Well heres the bottom line. I wanna see more black mutants with powerful and interesting powers and I want to see more black characters like the Silver Surfer and Galactus....got it?

Originally posted by Francisco
Black Panther is obviously a tad bellow Cap in agility as well.
http://img138.imageshack.us/my.php?image=29cv1.jpg

Im not into BP that much, black characters I like are Apoc, Night Thrasher and Cloak to name a few.

Originally posted by Alfheim
So that means that they are all self-hating black people, because they dont agree with you???
No, They are self-haters because despite the evidence of BP being in the same league with Cap they will just chalk BP as inferior.

Originally posted by Francisco
No, They are self-haters because despite the evidence of BP being in the same league with Cap they will just chalk BP as inferior.

So what about everything else ive been talking about??????

I think you're right but just as I said before it just adds to my complaints. Black gods are inferior to white gods, Black powerhouses weaker than white powerhouse. Black cosmics non existent.
The truely and single shining light in the MU regarding minorities has been always the Black Panther (Ororo doesn't count she most of the times doesn't even look like a black woman) yet he is understimated most of the time.

I might have been a bit off with my statement of the self-hating negroes but it surely applies to some extent.

Originally posted by Francisco
I think you're right but just as I said before it just adds to my complaints. Black gods are inferior to white gods, Black powerhouses weaker than white powerhouse. Black cosmics non existent.

Ok i'll agree with that and that needs to be changed.

Originally posted by Francisco

The truely and single shining light in the MU regarding minorities has been always the Black Panther (Ororo doesn't count she most of the times doesn't even look like a black woman) yet he is understimated most of the time.

Yeah but I just cant relate to him, hes a rich guy born into an African royal family, I can relate to Night Thrasher and Cloak more

Originally posted by Francisco

I might have been a bit off with my statement of the self-hating negroes but it surely applies to some extent.

Are you sure, or is that you dont want white women going near black guys? Dont you think that maybe you need to look at yourself a bit instead of pointing the finger at other people all the time.

I tell you what if I told you I was an asatruist you would have a field day with me.

http://img94.exs.cx/img94/4858/wind.jpg
Bp is just so damn slow and unskilled.

Originally posted by Francisco
http://img94.exs.cx/img94/4858/wind.jpg
Bp is just so damn slow and unskilled.

Im not really into BP sorry. I also follow the principal that if you have really old scans you need more modern ones to back them up. In the old old days there were no real clearly defined power sets.