[QUOTE=8046341]Originally posted by Newjak
It's just that most of DC's top-tiers on Earth most of the time while most of Marvel's top people are out in the cosmos most of the time and don't get the attention like Earth heros do.
Anyways most of the GL corps are novcies and mid-tier heros that aren't human like Hal and Kyle.
Black Bolt's scream would mess up anyone under Superman in durability and would probably mess up Supes a little bit. Hercules as held the entire Earth on his shoulders so Barda who. Flash is superfast but is still pretty limited in alot of regards SS would beat Flash no problem in most cases.
Here is the main point like I said you see more of DCU's top-tier heros because they are all clumped together on Earth while most of Marvel's are scattered throuout the cosmos thus it is the mid-tiers like Ironman and street-levelers like Spiderman/Captain America that get the most attention. [/QUOTE
The Main point of the thread is for people to realize that Thanos has a JOBBER aura. And it wouldn't work in DC. All things considered Both companies are equal, but DC hereos tend to be much stronger and in greater number. Marvel Heroes tend to excel in mid tier strength or in one thing only. like the Hulk. Or like Firestar. Where as in the DCU, every one and thier mother has Superstrength and flight and speed, a green lantern ring, or a bat kick. Marvel Cosmics are cooler and more diversified. Thus making the companies equal when all things are considered.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirlI can kind of agree with this but you'd be surprised how many people in Marvel have the Superman power set or GL power set and some even have a little of both
[QUOTE=8046341]Originally posted by Newjak
[B]It's just that most of DC's top-tiers on Earth most of the time while most of Marvel's top people are out in the cosmos most of the time and don't get the attention like Earth heros do.Anyways most of the GL corps are novcies and mid-tier heros that aren't human like Hal and Kyle.
Black Bolt's scream would mess up anyone under Superman in durability and would probably mess up Supes a little bit. Hercules as held the entire Earth on his shoulders so Barda who. Flash is superfast but is still pretty limited in alot of regards SS would beat Flash no problem in most cases.
Here is the main point like I said you see more of DCU's top-tier heros because they are all clumped together on Earth while most of Marvel's are scattered throuout the cosmos thus it is the mid-tiers like Ironman and street-levelers like Spiderman/Captain America that get the most attention.
[/QUOTEThe Main point of the thread is for people to realize that Thanos has a JOBBER aura. And it wouldn't work in DC. All things considered Both companies are equal, but DC hereos tend to be much stronger and in greater number. Marvel Heroes tend to excel in mid tier strength or in one thing only. like the Hulk. Or like Firestar. Where as in the DCU, every one and thier mother has Superstrength and flight and speed, a green lantern ring, or a bat kick. Marvel Cosmics are cooler and more diversified. Thus making the companies equal when all things are considered. [/B]
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Quasar is yet just one GL. How about Thousands of them? The nova Corps still added in wouldn't even it out. Not when you have The daxamites who clearly would out gun the Nova corps.
The Daxamites aren't the GL corps though. If you wanna bring them in, bring in the Kree, the Skrulls, or the Shi'Ar. Many of the GL corps aren't nearly as experienced or as talented as Kilowog, Hal, Kyle, etc.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
The runner is not as fast as the flash. The runner needs the space gem to be able to do instant travel. The flash beat instant travel using his speed powers and absorbing powers. Now that Bart is the speed force, I have no doubt there is no one in Marvel as fast as him.
If Bart applies it correctly, he could become faster than Wally. However, Surfer and Runner are both comparable to Wally. Also, the gem that Runner used, he couldn't even use it to full potential, and has been shown to be quicker than Surfer without it.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
And What I was saying about the class system simply is that Damn near every one in DC with SUperstrength is far above the class system. The top ones are like in the Billions of tons range.
I'm aware, but many Marvel top tiers hit that range as well. Just look at Hulk, Hercules, Thor, Gladiator, etc.
Also, one thing you need to realize is that Marvel spreads out their top tiers. DC tends to clump them together. Most of Marvel's top tiers are either in space, or different places on earth.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
[QUOTE=8046341]Originally posted by Newjak
[B]It's just that most of DC's top-tiers on Earth most of the time while most of Marvel's top people are out in the cosmos most of the time and don't get the attention like Earth heros do.Anyways most of the GL corps are novcies and mid-tier heros that aren't human like Hal and Kyle.
Black Bolt's scream would mess up anyone under Superman in durability and would probably mess up Supes a little bit. Hercules as held the entire Earth on his shoulders so Barda who. Flash is superfast but is still pretty limited in alot of regards SS would beat Flash no problem in most cases.
Here is the main point like I said you see more of DCU's top-tier heros because they are all clumped together on Earth while most of Marvel's are scattered throuout the cosmos thus it is the mid-tiers like Ironman and street-levelers like Spiderman/Captain America that get the most attention.
[/QUOTEThe Main point of the thread is for people to realize that Thanos has a JOBBER aura. And it wouldn't work in DC. All things considered Both companies are equal, but DC hereos tend to be much stronger and in greater number. Marvel Heroes tend to excel in mid tier strength or in one thing only. like the Hulk. Or like Firestar. Where as in the DCU, every one and thier mother has Superstrength and flight and speed, a green lantern ring, or a bat kick. Marvel Cosmics are cooler and more diversified. Thus making the companies equal when all things are considered. [/B]
Look, Thanos DOES have a jobber aura, thats why he didnt die against Odin, Tyrant or Galactus, if the battles continued he should've died. However, the fact that he can take blasts from Odin doesnt change, the jobbing is in the saving grace of not losing, the characters himself is powerful -just as Supes is powerful and yet people job to him everyday.
Originally posted by Bentley
Earth being the cented of the universe is very realistic by the way.
Earth is not the center of the universe. There are Three centers on differnt planes of reality. Oa, the Source, and the New Gods. THo i'm not sure about the new gods one for sure. I know when the planets where one, they were at the center. Not sure now that they are split.
Originally posted by Bentley
Look, Thanos DOES have a jobber aura, thats why he didnt die against Odin, Tyrant or Galactus, if the battles continued he should've died. However, the fact that he can take blasts from Odin doesnt change, the jobbing is in the saving grace of not losing, the characters himself is powerful -just as Supes is powerful and yet people job to him everyday.
Hell yeah people job to superman. SHit, WW does it in her head for monologues, and DS has done it twice. WHen has DS ever shot the Omega effect without the finder beams? WHAT the FUUUUUUUU^%$^%$.
Originally posted by Howard_Jones
The Daxamites aren't the GL corps though. If you wanna bring them in, bring in the Kree, the Skrulls, or the Shi'Ar. Many of the GL corps aren't nearly as experienced or as talented as Kilowog, Hal, Kyle, etc.If Bart applies it correctly, he could become faster than Wally. However, Surfer and Runner are both comparable to Wally. Also, the gem that Runner used, he couldn't even use it to full potential, and has been shown to be quicker than Surfer without it.
I'm aware, but many Marvel top tiers hit that range as well. Just look at Hulk, Hercules, Thor, Gladiator, etc.
Also, one thing you need to realize is that Marvel spreads out their top tiers. DC tends to clump them together. Most of Marvel's top tiers are either in space, or different places on earth.
DC also has many Top tiers in Space. The Legion of Superheroes shows us that The DCU is basically Full of super powered races. Hell you have a planet full of Professor X lvl telepaths from Saturn Girl's world. You have 3 Billion beings who are all stronger than SUperman on Daxam. You have the Omega Men. The Tamarians, The Almeracians.
Originally posted by Bentley
The watchers for the win!
I"m just tring to show that Thanos' chances of being so nefarious are much slimmer in the DCU than in Marvel. Thus feats done by DC villians are indeed gems becuz the DCU is so full of Jobber heroes who always find a way to win. Hell look at the Freaking justice League. They beat Mageddon by using WW's Purple ray to turn everyone on the planet into superman. WTF. That was the dumbest shit I ever read.
See, here's my problem, Nvr. You're talking about his power. Thanos's power isn't his biggest edge. IT'S THAT HE'S 5X SMARTER THAN EVEN BATMAN! Thanos is insanely good with prep. And a master strategist. He doesn't have to beat all of the DCU at once, or even beat the green lantern corp at once. He outmaneuvers and outsmarts people all the time. Go ahead, Nvr, prove to me that Thanos can't win with his crazy prep and genius intellect. No one in DC, outside of guys like Metron, is comparable to Thanos in tactics and manipulation. Even DS doens't have the success rate that Thanos has.
Originally posted by TricksterPriest
See, here's my problem, Nvr. You're talking about his power. Thanos's power isn't his biggest edge. IT'S THAT HE'S 5X SMARTER THAN EVEN BATMAN! Thanos is insanely good with prep. And a master strategist. He doesn't have to beat all of the DCU at once, or even beat the green lantern corp at once. He outmaneuvers and outsmarts people all the time. Go ahead, Nvr, prove to me that Thanos can't win with his crazy prep and genius intellect. No one in DC, outside of guys like Metron, is comparable to Thanos in tactics and manipulation. Even DS doens't have the success rate that Thanos has.
The reason that DS doesn't have the success rate that thanos has is exactly what I been saying. DC is full of many more powerful beings who actually get involved in stuff. Thanos has to outsmart DS, Metron, Highfather, the Phantom stranger who constantly interferes in shit, THe guardians, and others. Marvel's cosmics seem to leave Thanos well enough alone. I dont' think Thanos would fair well against SHazam on the Rock of Eternity. I don't think he would beat DS or High father or Takion. I dont' think he's smart enough to outsmart the brainiacs or metron or viking the black who is the 2nd smartest of the new genesis beings. The DCU is structured much differntly. Many more powerful beings interfere.